LONDON CITY - 2
From City website - Due to an operational issue, our runway is currently closed. Some passenegers may experience disruptions this morning. Affected passengers are adivised to contact their airlines for more information
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Just had a phone call from my Brother. He was flying from DUB into LCY this morning, but after circling for a while they were diverted to Stansted.
Before the diversion he said he saw what looked like a BAE146/Avro RJ stationary on the runway and surrounded by what looked like coaches.
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Before the diversion he said he saw what looked like a BAE146/Avro RJ stationary on the runway and surrounded by what looked like coaches.
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Aircraft was fixed relatively quickly. As it's an 'electric' airplane the computer said there was a fault with one of the MAU's (computer racks) and this caused the nose wheel steering to fail along with some other minor faults.
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Not a lot of activity on this thread since August.
Not a lot of activity at LCY today either. Went on the DLR past the fogbound ramp at 0745, it was completely empty. Came back at 1045, one lone F50 had got in, otherwise ghostly quiet. BA website was showing cancellations, but also a lot of early morning flights rescheduled to arrive around 1200.
We get to 1200, still foggy, and the East London air is filled with the sound from multiple go-arounds every few minutes ! Though I've just heard a prop aircraft actually make it in.
Now of course, such is life. But why does the LCY website just airbrush all the delay information off their arrivals page the moment scheduled arrival time is passed, or not give any diversion etc information ? I've written about this before, but it seems that whoever manages the flight information is desperate to show every future arrival (the full programme for the next 12 hours being all displayed), but never to show anything delayed, or even past its arrival time, that people are actually waiting for. Over in the Canary Wharf offices everyone is wondering what has happened to their visitors arriving for meetings, whic have been already delayed to wait for them. But there's absolutely no sign on the arrivals page of any of the morning flights any more. Does no-one at LCY realise this is just the time when many are turning to them for information on what's going on ? Is it really beyond physics to have somebody at such times updating the information properly ?
It's not just the website; the FIDS in the terminal suffer from the same desperation to clear current arrivals off the screen ASAP while showing forthcoming arrivals 6 or 8 hours ahead (sometimes even into the next day !). Actual arrivals are meanwhile zapped from the screens even before all the inbound pax have emerged into the terminal.
Not a lot of activity at LCY today either. Went on the DLR past the fogbound ramp at 0745, it was completely empty. Came back at 1045, one lone F50 had got in, otherwise ghostly quiet. BA website was showing cancellations, but also a lot of early morning flights rescheduled to arrive around 1200.
We get to 1200, still foggy, and the East London air is filled with the sound from multiple go-arounds every few minutes ! Though I've just heard a prop aircraft actually make it in.
Now of course, such is life. But why does the LCY website just airbrush all the delay information off their arrivals page the moment scheduled arrival time is passed, or not give any diversion etc information ? I've written about this before, but it seems that whoever manages the flight information is desperate to show every future arrival (the full programme for the next 12 hours being all displayed), but never to show anything delayed, or even past its arrival time, that people are actually waiting for. Over in the Canary Wharf offices everyone is wondering what has happened to their visitors arriving for meetings, whic have been already delayed to wait for them. But there's absolutely no sign on the arrivals page of any of the morning flights any more. Does no-one at LCY realise this is just the time when many are turning to them for information on what's going on ? Is it really beyond physics to have somebody at such times updating the information properly ?
It's not just the website; the FIDS in the terminal suffer from the same desperation to clear current arrivals off the screen ASAP while showing forthcoming arrivals 6 or 8 hours ahead (sometimes even into the next day !). Actual arrivals are meanwhile zapped from the screens even before all the inbound pax have emerged into the terminal.
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Tell me about it - I was on the cancelled LCY-AGP flight. Only good news was the re-route from LHR to Jerez, makes my life a little easier, even though I arrive 7 hours later than planned. There was a lot of people in the re-booking queue, including Michael Portilo, whom looked a little miffed having to go to the back and wait his turn
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We've had some notably low and thin cloud recently, so the attached may look familiar to some LCY crews. It's taken from the top of Canary Wharf tower yesterday (Nov 23), looking west to the City of London. Shard on the left, Natwest (Tower 42) and Heron Tower in the middle, Broadgate Tower on the right. I'm guessing cloud tops were about 150m.
Canary Wharf Tower view - above the clouds | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Canary Wharf Tower view - above the clouds | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
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All gone rather quiet on here, surprised none of the regulars have mentioned the proposal to cover over a lot more of the docks over with 18 new aircraft stands has been on consultation since 25th November, closing on the 31st December (handily over the Christmas period eh?)
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Looking at those proposals, would it not make more sense to relocate the main terminal building to the middle of the proposed pier, especially if the dock is to be infilled anyway. Otherwise, you're left with pretty lengthy walks from the existing terminal to the new stands ?
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Otherwise, you're left with pretty lengthy walks from the existing terminal to the new stands ?
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Clearly you haven't used some of of the major European airports which make you experience similar!
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There are two options presented. One is for 18 stands in a long line eastwards from the current terminal (not sure if the recently built 4 stand terminal extension building is maintained or rebuilt), through to the eastern holding point. The other is for 13 stands in this line, and the other 5 wrapped around the eastern end to a new southerly ramp built over the KGV dock.
I really cannot understand what input Sid and Doris in Newham (let alone Mr and Mrs WHBM
) might have to evaluating the relative merits of these two options. However the first gives a completely clear taxyway to the end of 27, the second still requires an element of backtracking. It's quite obvous which the airport prefers.I also don't understand why they feel the can dispose of the current main stands 1-10. There will be a continuing need for aircraft not of full size, and after all E190s operate off these quite alright at present.
The diagrams show aircraft still turning in front of the new terminal pier, as opposed to nose-in parking and push back tugs. I thought LCY were pretty much set on this latter change.
If we are going to build 18 new larger stands, it is also surely inappropriate that the terminal, car park, etc, are still expected to be the current size without change. That just won't fit.
It's a shame it's all terminal stands and there is no parking area for spare or u/s aircraft. It would help considerably if Titan had somewhere to leave their subchartered-as-required RJ, instead of having to ferry it down from Stansted whenever needed. Likewise somewhere to store AOG aircraft. Dare I mention a hangar for anybody ?
I suppose I should write and ask if the current arrangements at each gate for pax to queue on the narrow, steep descending stairs to the gate entrance will be maintained. It certainly has been incorporated just the same in new gates 21-24. Any realistic Risk Assessment would recognise this as an accident waiting to happen (if it hasn't already happened).
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Why will the stop using the current stands, won't it make sense to keep them for expansion, not everything in future will be new generation 100+ seats.