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I still cant understand we now have cat 3 radar good lentgh runway new terminal a goverment which is stoppin the expansion of the london airports traffic is picking up there no new slots and we have a under used airport.
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It's all down to Marketing...
Small point but you mean Cat 3 ILS?
The new radar, much needed if you ask me, will be ready by the end of the year but that depends on the approvals from the CAA according to a bloke in the pub who knew a bit about the program. Mode S too, obviously.
The way I see it is that Bournemouth numbers will start to rise, maybe as early as next year, granted they need to get the right routes and the right airlines but it WILL pick up. And after the BBC South today's scathing program the other day at the launch of the new terminal I hope it get the target 3million by 2015.
And another point is that Bournemouth doesn't just make money from passengers flying out...it gets income from more diverse ways .
The new radar, much needed if you ask me, will be ready by the end of the year but that depends on the approvals from the CAA according to a bloke in the pub who knew a bit about the program. Mode S too, obviously.
The way I see it is that Bournemouth numbers will start to rise, maybe as early as next year, granted they need to get the right routes and the right airlines but it WILL pick up. And after the BBC South today's scathing program the other day at the launch of the new terminal I hope it get the target 3million by 2015.
And another point is that Bournemouth doesn't just make money from passengers flying out...it gets income from more diverse ways .
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Media already picked up lack of FR schedules for the winter
Bmibaby pulls Jersey flights from Bournemouth Airport three months after launch
10:00am Thursday 17th June 2010
By Katie Clark »
DISAPPOINTING sales have led to one of Bournemouth Airport’s newest arrivals withdrawing their sole route to Jersey.
Just days after the official opening of the new multi-million-pound departures terminal, Bmibaby has suspended its service from the airport to Jersey nearly three months after its launch in March.
The last flight will depart on June 28, despite flights scheduled for six months when the route was launched.
A spokesperson for the airline said: “Sales on the new route have been disappointing and not to the expected levels.
“In the current market, Bmibaby needs to focus its efforts and activities on routes and services that are the best fit for the Bmibaby business.
“This way the airline can ensure that it continues to provide its customers with the best possible competitive fares, as well as services to a range of attractive destinations.
“Any affected passengers will be contacted by the airline as soon as possible and will receive a full refund.”
Rob Goldsmith, managing director of Bournemouth Airport, said: “We are disappointed to hear that local demand for the Jersey route has not been strong enough to support the Bmibaby service.
“However, we do believe that this is a viable route with a smaller aircraft and hope that we can encourage another airline to take over this route as soon as possible.”
More than 24,000 people were expected to use the new route with hopes to add new destinations and a second plane if successful.
Bournemouth Airport has recently undergone a £45 million transformation of its facilities and departures terminal with plans to build a new arrivals hall soon to get under way.
No winter bookings
PASSENGERS hoping to fly with Ryanair from Bournemouth Airport after October are finding they can’t book.
Despite customers of the low-cost airline able to book winter breaks from other UK airports including Bristol, East Midlands and Edinburgh, Bournemouth’s winter timetable is not yet available on the airline’s website.
Ryanair, which based a second aircraft at the recently transformed airport in April, says the reason for the restricted options is that its winter schedules for Bournemouth have not been finalised yet.
Ryanair’s sales and marketing executive Maria Macken refused to be drawn on whether Bournemouth was the only schedule yet to be finalised and could not clarify when it may be published. She said: “We do not comment on rumour or speculation.
“Not all of our winter schedules are finalised.”
Airport spokesperson Sally Windsor said: “Whilst some airlines such as Thomson, Palmair and Flybe have confirmed their timetables we are still waiting to hear from other operators to confirm their winter schedules.”
10:00am Thursday 17th June 2010
By Katie Clark »
DISAPPOINTING sales have led to one of Bournemouth Airport’s newest arrivals withdrawing their sole route to Jersey.
Just days after the official opening of the new multi-million-pound departures terminal, Bmibaby has suspended its service from the airport to Jersey nearly three months after its launch in March.
The last flight will depart on June 28, despite flights scheduled for six months when the route was launched.
A spokesperson for the airline said: “Sales on the new route have been disappointing and not to the expected levels.
“In the current market, Bmibaby needs to focus its efforts and activities on routes and services that are the best fit for the Bmibaby business.
“This way the airline can ensure that it continues to provide its customers with the best possible competitive fares, as well as services to a range of attractive destinations.
“Any affected passengers will be contacted by the airline as soon as possible and will receive a full refund.”
Rob Goldsmith, managing director of Bournemouth Airport, said: “We are disappointed to hear that local demand for the Jersey route has not been strong enough to support the Bmibaby service.
“However, we do believe that this is a viable route with a smaller aircraft and hope that we can encourage another airline to take over this route as soon as possible.”
More than 24,000 people were expected to use the new route with hopes to add new destinations and a second plane if successful.
Bournemouth Airport has recently undergone a £45 million transformation of its facilities and departures terminal with plans to build a new arrivals hall soon to get under way.
No winter bookings
PASSENGERS hoping to fly with Ryanair from Bournemouth Airport after October are finding they can’t book.
Despite customers of the low-cost airline able to book winter breaks from other UK airports including Bristol, East Midlands and Edinburgh, Bournemouth’s winter timetable is not yet available on the airline’s website.
Ryanair, which based a second aircraft at the recently transformed airport in April, says the reason for the restricted options is that its winter schedules for Bournemouth have not been finalised yet.
Ryanair’s sales and marketing executive Maria Macken refused to be drawn on whether Bournemouth was the only schedule yet to be finalised and could not clarify when it may be published. She said: “We do not comment on rumour or speculation.
“Not all of our winter schedules are finalised.”
Airport spokesperson Sally Windsor said: “Whilst some airlines such as Thomson, Palmair and Flybe have confirmed their timetables we are still waiting to hear from other operators to confirm their winter schedules.”
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How is the Palmair BOH-DUB-BOH selling does anyone know?
Well todays Dublin flight Cancelled and a quick look at the Palmair website is showing only BOH-DUB flights being available.
THERE IS ONLY A ONE WAY FLIGHT OPTION FOR THE REQUESTED PERIOD.
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I think the airport needs to get a grip of things very quickly now , with Ryanair playing stupid games as its costing the airport dearly with lost passenger numbers . Confidence in the airport its self will start to diminish especially after the opening of the terminal
Easy Jet would be the ideal airline to base itself at Bournemouth but time is marching on and to get an operation up and running so quickly would be pretty hard to do
Thomson meantime should be jumping in and taking control of some of the lost routes and adding them to there schedule and Palmair need to make there mind up as well about what they plan to do this winter , the big question with them is do they have an aircraft or not after October ?
Easy Jet would be the ideal airline to base itself at Bournemouth but time is marching on and to get an operation up and running so quickly would be pretty hard to do
Thomson meantime should be jumping in and taking control of some of the lost routes and adding them to there schedule and Palmair need to make there mind up as well about what they plan to do this winter , the big question with them is do they have an aircraft or not after October ?
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There will be job losses at the airport and the retail/shops that have opened in the new terminal will not be able to last if this winter turns out to be only thomson and a spattering of ski flights. Plus MAN of course.
Palmair looks like operating a very thin operation amounting to maybe 10,000 passengers across the 6 month period.
Ryanair looks like ZERO if rumours are true.
Could be a make or break issue.
MAG need to pull their finger out and make it work. easyJet and Ryanair are taking delivery of 2 to 8 aircraft per month. It's not a capacity issue.
Palmair looks like operating a very thin operation amounting to maybe 10,000 passengers across the 6 month period.
Ryanair looks like ZERO if rumours are true.
Could be a make or break issue.
MAG need to pull their finger out and make it work. easyJet and Ryanair are taking delivery of 2 to 8 aircraft per month. It's not a capacity issue.
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FR winter flights
These rumours are very unsettling but not true.
We have been told the 2nd AC is departing for 5 months over the winter and will be back for next summer, certainly the long term plan for BOH is for five AC at some stage. The extra pilots (2) and cabin crew (15ish) are being drafted to other bases at the end of the summer season but not the original crew who will be operating the one AC for the winter schedule. Pax numbers are constantly over 85% and the base ancillery sales are constantly in the top 2 (of 40+) bases. Do you really think this is a base with an axe hanging over it! We rarely have no shows for the flights which is a very solid indication that the yeilds are high as people a more likely to make their flight if they have paid good money for their ticket. When was the last time you saw any(very) cheap tickets for BOH flights?
Sure FR are probablly playing hardball with the airport, thats one of the reasons we are still around and making money,Flying new AC full of Pax.
Stop knocking FR from the outside, if you dont like us travel to LHR and get a flight in between strikes, just leave us to do our thing our (successful) way.
We have been told the 2nd AC is departing for 5 months over the winter and will be back for next summer, certainly the long term plan for BOH is for five AC at some stage. The extra pilots (2) and cabin crew (15ish) are being drafted to other bases at the end of the summer season but not the original crew who will be operating the one AC for the winter schedule. Pax numbers are constantly over 85% and the base ancillery sales are constantly in the top 2 (of 40+) bases. Do you really think this is a base with an axe hanging over it! We rarely have no shows for the flights which is a very solid indication that the yeilds are high as people a more likely to make their flight if they have paid good money for their ticket. When was the last time you saw any(very) cheap tickets for BOH flights?
Sure FR are probablly playing hardball with the airport, thats one of the reasons we are still around and making money,Flying new AC full of Pax.
Stop knocking FR from the outside, if you dont like us travel to LHR and get a flight in between strikes, just leave us to do our thing our (successful) way.
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Stop knocking FR from the outside, if you dont like us travel to LHR and get a flight in between strikes, just leave us to do our thing our (successful) way.
Hey Gruffy, you,ve got the wrong end of the stick mate! These are concerned voices from people who are either linked to the airport and want to see it going places or trying to book a flight for next November and they cant (only FR base)!
Which is astonishing considering what you are saying about load factors and popularity! I don,t want to go to Heathrow and the airport has been supporting Ryanair for years! What else can they do?
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Is their any particular reason why easyjet seem to be a little reluctant to set up a base at or even add moe routes at boh?
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Thanks for the information you have posted and i really hope its good news soon ! i think we know it will be 1 based aircraft again this winter in all honesty
No one is having a go , just really concerned about what is happening at Bournemouth !
You will find that the Bournemouth " THREAD " is about one of the only ones that no one knocks eachother about , just passionate about a local airport that is finally on the up !
After your post though and everything you said about load factors , yields and popular routes etc ..... why then do you think that Ryanair has left it so late in the day to publish a winter schedule from Bournemouth ( and its still not published ) , all that is happening now is everyone is moving to other airports to book which in the long term cant be good !
Thanks for the information you have posted and i really hope its good news soon ! i think we know it will be 1 based aircraft again this winter in all honesty
No one is having a go , just really concerned about what is happening at Bournemouth !
You will find that the Bournemouth " THREAD " is about one of the only ones that no one knocks eachother about , just passionate about a local airport that is finally on the up !
After your post though and everything you said about load factors , yields and popular routes etc ..... why then do you think that Ryanair has left it so late in the day to publish a winter schedule from Bournemouth ( and its still not published ) , all that is happening now is everyone is moving to other airports to book which in the long term cant be good !
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Game Plan
Who would benefit from the uncertainty ??
I am sure Ryanair would be able to put up with the poor loads through the Winter at BOH, they would probably pick up the Pax at other bases anyway !
However it would put massive pressure on MAG to give them a better deal ?
Probably all part of RYR Game Plan
Call Me cynical -dill
I said before it's gonna be a long cold and now quiet witer at BOH.
I am sure Ryanair would be able to put up with the poor loads through the Winter at BOH, they would probably pick up the Pax at other bases anyway !
However it would put massive pressure on MAG to give them a better deal ?
Probably all part of RYR Game Plan
Call Me cynical -dill
I said before it's gonna be a long cold and now quiet witer at BOH.