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From June this year according to caa report the current fleet of helicopters will have to fly 40% more to transport the same number of pax, be interesting to see if this goes ahead, could imagine Aberdeen becoming a very busy place if it does
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It won't be a direct 40% increase
the oil companies will start to look a lot harder at scheduling passengers offshore for a start and optimising loads - some people may spend an exta night offshore in future I expect
the oil companies will start to look a lot harder at scheduling passengers offshore for a start and optimising loads - some people may spend an exta night offshore in future I expect
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23% is quite a bump on last Summer's capacity. Some very quick calculations puts that around 30,000 extra seats over the course of the summer.
I see they currently have 735's scheduled for the whole summer unlike last year where it was a mix if 737/CR7 until June before going all 737. Even so that only represents about a 6% shunt in capacity so it'll be interesting to see what they have planned.
Airbaltic and SAS both launched yesterday of course. Early days I know, but does anyone have any indications of loads on these services?
I see they currently have 735's scheduled for the whole summer unlike last year where it was a mix if 737/CR7 until June before going all 737. Even so that only represents about a 6% shunt in capacity so it'll be interesting to see what they have planned.
Airbaltic and SAS both launched yesterday of course. Early days I know, but does anyone have any indications of loads on these services?
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Slightly off topic but I thought still relevant to ABZ.
Reading elsewhere that SAS are to start a direct route from Stavanger to Houston. Six weekly, all business class (44 seats) and operated by PrivatAir on a 737.
This would be a be a perfect service from Aberdeen but there is no home based carrier here like SAS have at Stavanger. Will also be a Star Alliance airline flying to a Star Alliance hub which helps. I guess there are lots of SAS and United frequent fliers at both ends of the route. I doubt such a long route would be feasible from Aberdeen'a runway anyway.
Are we likely to see Aberdeen travellers going to Houston transfer onto this route using the many daily flights to Stavanger? Would it be an easy connection being a relatively small airport?
Reading elsewhere that SAS are to start a direct route from Stavanger to Houston. Six weekly, all business class (44 seats) and operated by PrivatAir on a 737.
This would be a be a perfect service from Aberdeen but there is no home based carrier here like SAS have at Stavanger. Will also be a Star Alliance airline flying to a Star Alliance hub which helps. I guess there are lots of SAS and United frequent fliers at both ends of the route. I doubt such a long route would be feasible from Aberdeen'a runway anyway.
Are we likely to see Aberdeen travellers going to Houston transfer onto this route using the many daily flights to Stavanger? Would it be an easy connection being a relatively small airport?
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Someone has obviously done the maths and not seen it to be viable, as there is no reason why SAS/Private Air could not have picked up an ABZ-HOU route themselves. I cant honestly see 44 people every day wishing to go direct to HOU. In saying that, SVG would be no worse a routing even going east first than AMS would be. Would be surprised if an exec business 737 couldnt make it, but havent done the maths.
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While it's still available I'll go via AMS and the 744, still have a soft spot for the old bird
ABZ - SVG - IAH, I guess in principle why not, will be interesting to see how it's priced compared to AF/KLM and LH with BA being away with the fairies for 'C' pricing.
ABZ - SVG - IAH, I guess in principle why not, will be interesting to see how it's priced compared to AF/KLM and LH with BA being away with the fairies for 'C' pricing.
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Someone has obviously done the maths and not seen it to be viable
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Send it via SNN to do the pre clearance, last time I was in IAH earlier this year, it took 3 hours to get through immigration. Then there is no issue with the full load, etc.
BTW any discerning Oil Field Worker sits in the back, so I doubt would be on any proposed service out of Dyce. The Oil Companies want to cut costs, the service companies find the cheapest option, regardless how inconvenienced the employee is. One of my colleagues was sent to Atyrau last year from his home in Holland, via IST and ALA, a journey of 22 hours due to long layovers, compared to a 4 1/2 hr flight from Schiphol to save $300.
BTW any discerning Oil Field Worker sits in the back, so I doubt would be on any proposed service out of Dyce. The Oil Companies want to cut costs, the service companies find the cheapest option, regardless how inconvenienced the employee is. One of my colleagues was sent to Atyrau last year from his home in Holland, via IST and ALA, a journey of 22 hours due to long layovers, compared to a 4 1/2 hr flight from Schiphol to save $300.
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Nighthawk's comments for me show the paucity of ambition and complete lack of forward thinking of the owners and management at AIA (again).
For years there has been talk of Houston.
SVG & SAS aren't sitting on their arses wondering IF the route will work. They are putting it in place.
Meanwhile, ABZ offers minimum piecemeal expansion & a half-arsed runway extension that has attracted next to b****r-all new routes. And still not enough length for longer haul routes. Talk about being REactive & not PROactive. Will Riga work? Hmm...
KLM stated an interest in starting ABZ-IAH before...UAL did more recently a couple of years back.
Since then - silence. Why aren't AIA/BAA/HAH not talking - no, BITING THESE AIRLINE'S HANDS OFF - to get a deal and facilities in place for such a service?
Aberdeen City is booming economically presently - you can't tell me there isn't a market for a similar type BBJ service to IAH from here. We are supposed to be the 'oil/energy capital of Europe' (hah!).
But AIA are 'talking to airline partners' they tell us...apparently. It sure doesn't feel like it sometimes.
Sooner we are rid of BAA/HAH the better.
For years there has been talk of Houston.
SVG & SAS aren't sitting on their arses wondering IF the route will work. They are putting it in place.
Meanwhile, ABZ offers minimum piecemeal expansion & a half-arsed runway extension that has attracted next to b****r-all new routes. And still not enough length for longer haul routes. Talk about being REactive & not PROactive. Will Riga work? Hmm...
KLM stated an interest in starting ABZ-IAH before...UAL did more recently a couple of years back.
Since then - silence. Why aren't AIA/BAA/HAH not talking - no, BITING THESE AIRLINE'S HANDS OFF - to get a deal and facilities in place for such a service?
Aberdeen City is booming economically presently - you can't tell me there isn't a market for a similar type BBJ service to IAH from here. We are supposed to be the 'oil/energy capital of Europe' (hah!).
But AIA are 'talking to airline partners' they tell us...apparently. It sure doesn't feel like it sometimes.
Sooner we are rid of BAA/HAH the better.
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you could probably have justified a decent runway extension by 1978 - but the owners weren't interested in spending cash on building something that might in any way divert traffic from LGW & LHR
ABZ would have been much better in the hands of the local authority (and I say that knowing just what a bunch of turkeys THEY have been over the years)
ABZ would have been much better in the hands of the local authority (and I say that knowing just what a bunch of turkeys THEY have been over the years)
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I love the fact that as the airport has got busier over the years; still one baggage belt for dom. and int. respectively. One slow revolving door for arrivals.
But, they are putting a new front door on. Excellent.
But, they are putting a new front door on. Excellent.
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probably due for a new logo and "re-branding" as well
God forbid we'd be able to get on & off the planes in the dry...............
But they can build a multi -storey car-park............
God forbid we'd be able to get on & off the planes in the dry...............
But they can build a multi -storey car-park............
Now look here,the multistory car park is an income generator whereas an air bridge isn't and as for the slow revolving doors , well the newer doors will give quicker acces to the "wonderful " retail opportunities.....
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Aye plenty 'o hotels and more to come , no California though
We sometimes play whats the next most stupid idea game on a quiet day
Aye plenty 'o hotels and more to come , no California though
We sometimes play whats the next most stupid idea game on a quiet day
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Plenty of opportunities to play that game in this city!
Anyhow, Atlantic A/W have two flights inbound today from the Faroes...1 x RJ, 1x A319 from the nice man that provides such info.
Are the Faroese raiding oor shops again?
Airport Management are off to the Routes Conference 2014...you never know...
Might get an extension to our smoking shelter, & some more taxis (the current taxi farce being a disgrace).
Anyhow, Atlantic A/W have two flights inbound today from the Faroes...1 x RJ, 1x A319 from the nice man that provides such info.
Are the Faroese raiding oor shops again?
Airport Management are off to the Routes Conference 2014...you never know...
Might get an extension to our smoking shelter, & some more taxis (the current taxi farce being a disgrace).