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Old 31st Aug 2009, 14:42
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nope, guess again...
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Old 31st Aug 2009, 19:06
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Hi all,

Just wondering if there's any news on how Aer Arann are doing these days? I can't imagine it's much easy being a regional airline in a country hit extremely hard by the recession.

Has there been any movement on the recent €10m investment talks? Or from the recent board meeting where the 'winter survival' plan was presented?

I'm really hoping things pick up as they're a great little airline and from I've heard a very nice bunch of people to deal with.

Cheers,

P2C
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Old 31st Aug 2009, 21:12
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All flights in and out of Cardiff were ok today.

What i can guess is maybe weather or tech having a knock on effect to flights.
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Old 5th Sep 2009, 23:08
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i hear RE are to base another a/c on the Rock to compete with BE on the MAN and LPL before things go tits up in EIRE, is this true? It would be great if so
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I'd be very surprised if they do....after all they already tried IOM-LPL once. To have yet another go would be very odd indeed!
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Old 6th Sep 2009, 18:32
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its the usual iom . Arran start LCY which kills LGW so BE have a tantrum and launch a DUB (anouncement soon) so Arran retaliate with LPL and MAN. again.
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Old 6th Sep 2009, 20:02
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so we can soon expect the following additional services ?

BE iom-dub (new?)
RE iom-lpl (again)
RE iom-man (new?)

edit: BE had IOM-LCY years ago.. And i really cant see any of the above happening.

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Old 6th Sep 2009, 20:54
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RE tried IOM-MAN. When BE, Euromanx and RE were competing on it, it was anticipated that Euromanx would be the one to pull out. But the loads RE got were really low, even for an ATR42 so they were the ones to blink first.
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Old 6th Sep 2009, 23:34
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It could be good for RE to get back to the IOM, BE have the monopoly and to have a choice there would be beneficial to RE and the IOM, jobs etc etc
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Old 7th Sep 2009, 09:36
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It has to make money sense though and it won't be easy to compete with an airline six times the size, in a stronger trading position, with much deeper pockets! Also I might add that a random search for a flight in a weeks time shows that the company with the apparent "monopoly" is offering flights to its destinations for significantly cheaper than RE is to its destinations. So j41cac, please explain to us again how more flights from a more expensive airline, with fewer departures, which has previously forsaken the islanders at the first hint of competition will benefit the island's economy?
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Old 7th Sep 2009, 19:07
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Grrr

Aer Arann
Restarted:Galway, Carnmore (GWY) to Waterford (WAT)
Newublin (DUB) to Liverpool, John Lennon (LPL)
Newublin (DUB) to Newcastle, (NCL)
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Old 7th Sep 2009, 19:26
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The WAT - GWY only seems to operate of a Tuesday and a Wednesday when the LTN flight from GWY stops off in WAT
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is liverpool and newcastle regular flights or just for matches?
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Old 7th Sep 2009, 20:17
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Looks like they are just targetting United and 'Pool's home Premier and Champions league games and a couple of Sunderland's bigger matches this side of Christmas.
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Old 7th Sep 2009, 20:19
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DUB-LPL/NCL is purely for football matches.


Day return flights operate from Dublin to Liverpool on the following dates:
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Tuesday 20 October
Saturday 21 November
Wednesday 9 December
Liverpool v Lyon
Liverpool v Man City
Liverpool v Fiorentina
k/o 1945
k/o 1245
k/o 1945
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Old 8th Sep 2009, 03:06
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So what happened to the proposed Aer Arann/Nex Aviation deal? Dead duck, or is there a 146 in Aer Arann's future?
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Old 8th Sep 2009, 12:49
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"Restarted:Galway, Carnmore (GWY) to Waterford (WAT)"

Good to see more domestic connections but midweek on this route is of little use to the student/leisure pax who might use it and more a sign of poor loads mid week on LTN route.

"So what happened to the proposed Aer Arann/Nex Aviation deal? Dead duck, or is there a 146 in Aer Arann's future?"

I believe last summers experiment was a one off. The NEX aircraft was last operating under Flightline license. A lot of REs thinner GWY routes were cut last winter, AMS survived for a couple of months after with an ATR operating a reduced schedule via WAT but that was also cut.

If they couldn't make AMS work with an ATR and a stop in WAT then the economics of running a thirsty 146, load restricted out of GWY in a recession look slim.
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Old 8th Sep 2009, 21:48
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NEX 146

Aer Arann is currently working to get G-BTIC on their AOC and will have some sort of 146 operation for 2010.

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Old 9th Sep 2009, 11:33
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So what do they need Nex Aviation for? Other than supplying that relic of a 146...
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 14:18
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That's interesting 5Q, I wonder if they are planning on using it for their charter operations, the ATR is limited in range for Europe. Hard to see them operating scheduled with a single type, but you never know with RE.

According to AirFleets.com Flightline went bust last December and G-BTIC currently in storage in the UK, so not sure who owns the aircraft now. NEX still exist, they're based at WAT though no idea what they do, they operated summer charters for Slattery Travel in the past.
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