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Old 10th Aug 2009, 09:10
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I think the return of EICVR was more to do with the decrease in passenger figures on some routes where from a year ago most flights from CWL were on a 72 with an occasional 42 but now it's the other way around.
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Old 15th Aug 2009, 12:15
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Could we ever see RE doing Belfast to Shannon or Galway?

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Old 24th Aug 2009, 11:34
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Maybe now would be a good time to try it with the Belfast-Dublin rail line out of service.
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CCR couldnt agree more, surely Aer Arann or Flybe would see the merit in setting up a new flight on the route, prices could be kept low as the time that an aircraft is taken up for the journey is small. Takes a 737 about 10 mins! So an ATR or a 400 not much longer on such a short hop.

A strong hard hitting marketing campaign could get a lot of attention.

Passengers reported today (outside peak time) that it took an extra 40-50 mins and the disruption of changing from Train to Bus in Drogheda.

Come on BHD and DUB offer some incentive to get this business going?

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Old 24th Aug 2009, 21:37
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I'll probably be lambasted for saying this but FR could easily make a killing on this. With all the idle aircraft lying in Dublin and cheap fares, it could work. FR could make a decision quickly whereas by the time Flybe or Aer Arann thought about it the railway line would be open again.
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Old 24th Aug 2009, 21:40
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Would anyone know approximately how much fuel it would take or cost to operate Dublin Belfast City on a 738? By road it is not much more than 120miles! Flying time would be very short.

The aircraft could do BHD DUB BHD or vv and be there and back in as quick as 1hr!! Could be a nice gap filler???

Would love to see it!!!

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Old 24th Aug 2009, 22:39
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Why? Factor in the airport hassle and it's not worth it. Or go the whole hog and just shoot a polar bear.
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Old 25th Aug 2009, 07:36
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CCR couldnt agree more, surely Aer Arann or Flybe would see the merit in setting up a new flight on the route, prices could be kept low as the time that an aircraft is taken up for the journey is small. Takes a 737 about 10 mins! So an ATR or a 400 not much longer on such a short hop.

A strong hard hitting marketing campaign could get a lot of attention.

Passengers reported today (outside peak time) that it took an extra 40-50 mins and the disruption of changing from Train to Bus in Drogheda.

Come on BHD and DUB offer some incentive to get this business going?

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Aer Arann already tried operating a DUB-BHD route a few years ago and it didn't work, it only lasted a few weeks and as far as I recall passenger numbers never even got into double figures. Since then more sections of the Dublin-Belfast motorway have opened, so if it didn't work then I can't see it working now.
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Old 25th Aug 2009, 09:48
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Domestic routes

Hassle at airport security etc plus the red tape about passport entries etc will destroy the domestic routes as the road network improves.
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Old 25th Aug 2009, 10:12
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Why? Factor in the airport hassle and it's not worth it.
Agree!

This route was tried in the near past from BHD with Aer Arann using ATR 42's with not much success, as far as I can remember. The route is actually featured on the Aer Arann world air routes DVD Aer Arann
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Old 25th Aug 2009, 10:45
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the red tape about passport entries etc will destroy the domestic routes
There are no passport checks on domestic routes. There is a domestic lane exclusive to Aer Arann at DUB that bypasses passport control.

Ryanair pax coming from ORK/KIR still have to que with the International arrivals.
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Old 25th Aug 2009, 11:35
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I've been doing ORK-DUB once a week for the last 4 months. One of the benefits of the recession is lower numbers in the airport (it's now like Dehli rather than Calcutta!) and there is never a queue for the passport control.

If only the US arrivals could say the same thing....!
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Old 25th Aug 2009, 12:15
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Domestic Routes

Ryanair have passport checks on domestic flights. Then there's the hassle of booking and checking in online where even one small genuine typing error results in having to purchase a new ticket. Of course there's always the possibility of being refused boarding if all the red tape hasn't been complied with.

I'd still opt for the plane but more and more people I speak to go by road and rail because airports and airlines are becomong less user friendly.
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Old 25th Aug 2009, 12:56
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The above posts referred to passport control at the airport rather than the airline requirements.

Speaking for the Cork route, flying is definitely quicker if you are in the city centre or north of the Liffey. If you're outside the M50 (to the West) or down around Sandyford, it becomes less compelling. Personally, once you get in to the routine of flying with Ryanair anyway frequently, you get to know how how to play their game and how to therefore get the low fares without being bumped or shafted!
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Old 25th Aug 2009, 13:22
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Flying within Ireland is a breeze. You check-in online, go straight to the domestic lane at security in Dublin where there is never a queue and be at the gate 30 mins prior to departure. If you're arriving in Dublin airport, you can take Dublin bus to the city centre via the port tunnel in 20 mins.
ALLMCC, you are right, Ryanair could probably jump on this with massive publicity, saving the day etc.
I do remember that Aer Arann tried the route before, but that was when there was a good rail connection between Dublin and Belfast. They really have a more suitable a/c for such a short route but Ryanair have more balls..
Apparently, the Cork-Dublin route is one of Ryanair's busiest routes. It is also one of their shortest routes though the distance between Belfast and Dublin is a lot shorter.
Now who would bother taking the train between Belfast & Dublin? It could take a year before that viaduct is repaired and certified for use again.
Thankfully, at least we have the motorway now.
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Old 25th Aug 2009, 13:47
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BHD-DUB took 40 min chock to chock in a Dash8. call it 25 min airbourne for cash!!
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Old 25th Aug 2009, 21:15
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Hi Serenity;

BHD DUB is no more than 20 mins flying. I did it on Capital Airlines just before they went bust (i think that was 1989/90!) it was a shorts360. Interestingly, I flew Easyjet Belfast/Malaga last summer and from take off to directly over head Dublin airport was 11 mins!
The initial Ryanair 738 from Dublin to Belfast City in October 2007 the evening before the launch of the BHD base it just took just over 10 mins! Although I appreciate the aircraft was empty!

It was an interest moment as an AirBerlin (one of their final flights) 737 700 and a Ryanair 737 800 were side by side at the gate and for the first few days of Ryanair service Air Berlin were also operating!!!

When did a Dash do BHD DUB????

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Old 26th Aug 2009, 19:58
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Knock Dublin tomorrow

Tomorrow's flight from Knock to Dublin is showing as cancelled on the Dublin airport arrivals list. Does anyone know why this is?
It shows as having left Dublin at 1804, not updated as arrived at Knock saying 'Due at 1850'.

Wonder whats the story here and if it did go to Knock why is it not going back to Dublin in the morning?

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Old 31st Aug 2009, 10:00
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Aer Arran

What wrong with so many cancel flights and delayed flights on the aer arran network today?
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Old 31st Aug 2009, 10:27
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Bank holiday I'd assume...
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