Aer Arann
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They seem too be holding their own. They reduced from 9 per day to 4 per day. Ryanair are doing extremely well but seem to be generating new business rather than taking from Aer Arann.
However the situation could change radically if Ryanair start to increase their frequency on the route?
However the situation could change radically if Ryanair start to increase their frequency on the route?
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A friend of mine travelled up on RYR to DUB 2 weeks ago, 14 on the flight...
Once taxes have been taken into account, if you want to go to Dublin city centre or the Southside of Dublin, they are not competitive with the train service on price, frequency or time.
So, their market is people travelling to the Northside of Dublin and connecting passengers at Dublin airport. But, of course, Ryanair don't offer interlining...
It seems a pretty limited market to fill a 737-800.
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RYR & ORK
I took the first flight out of DUB on day one of operations and I'd say it was about 50% full, and came home on the last flight out of ORK that evening and I'd say 75% on that flight. Just business pax in suit on both flights. Very few if any leisure pax. Paid €25 return incl. taxes
I'll admit that if you check in the 2hrs prior to the flight its quicker to take the train or even drive off peak of course. Having said that I left ORK @ 16:40 and was sitting at home eating dinner at 18:00. Its a 30 min bike ride on the 738
I'll admit that if you check in the 2hrs prior to the flight its quicker to take the train or even drive off peak of course. Having said that I left ORK @ 16:40 and was sitting at home eating dinner at 18:00. Its a 30 min bike ride on the 738
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I would say it is 35 mn ride on the ATR with 20 mn check in prior to fly compare to 40 mn with FR so altogether you save time.
FR is targeting a different kind of Cutomers the one who want to travel for a cent and are ready to accept the FR terms and conditions
And anyway i believe ryanair is getting an aircraft nearly every week so they need them to fly on any kind of route that could bring a bit of money.
FR is targeting a different kind of Cutomers the one who want to travel for a cent and are ready to accept the FR terms and conditions
And anyway i believe ryanair is getting an aircraft nearly every week so they need them to fly on any kind of route that could bring a bit of money.
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The train service at busy times is overflowing. One would need to be at Heuston at least 45 mins ahead of Departure to secure a seat. Most flights over the weekend had very high load factors. They appear to be taking business from the trains and the cars. Heard that more new routes for Cork may be announced within the next 10 days or so.
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ryan 2000 tell us more!!
fill us in mr ryan2000.. what new routes are on the grape vine.. will it involve a second aircraft ???.. anyone have any idea of the set up in cork at present.. do they have any employees/offices/etc there. or is it run from dublin or else where.
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Ryanair are going to base crews and Dublin is likely to go upto five daily. Should be a knockout blow for Aer Arann.
Cork want the five a day and also want a proper Manchester service. Lubeck and Bergamo are being discussed. But FR feel they could fly to anywhere from Cork and make it work.
Cork Airport Authority are finding it impossible to get Dublin to agree to a new deal for Ryanair so they may just ignore Dublin, do a deal and just be damned.
Cork having major HR issues at present but that is another sto.............
Cork want the five a day and also want a proper Manchester service. Lubeck and Bergamo are being discussed. But FR feel they could fly to anywhere from Cork and make it work.
Cork Airport Authority are finding it impossible to get Dublin to agree to a new deal for Ryanair so they may just ignore Dublin, do a deal and just be damned.
Cork having major HR issues at present but that is another sto.............
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CORK TO JERSEY CHARTERS 2006
Down in Jersey there is talk on Aer Arran operating the sunday summer charters for 2006,
VLM operated the summer of 2005 only on a Sunday, it would seem to be the same capicty of aircraft and Aer Arran has operated to the Golden Shores of the Channel Islands before now.
If this is coorect we look forward to receive them on a long term hopefully bases.
VLM operated the summer of 2005 only on a Sunday, it would seem to be the same capicty of aircraft and Aer Arran has operated to the Golden Shores of the Channel Islands before now.
If this is coorect we look forward to receive them on a long term hopefully bases.
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My information is similar to Neidins though I also understand that Aerlingus are also ready to expand.
Watch the websites for imminent announcements though I'm not privy to new route information
Would someone tell the DAA to lay off? They didn't intefere with SNN last year.
Cork's major problem now is that it doesn't have enough parking stands.
Watch the websites for imminent announcements though I'm not privy to new route information
Would someone tell the DAA to lay off? They didn't intefere with SNN last year.
Cork's major problem now is that it doesn't have enough parking stands.
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8th December 2005, Aer Arann, Ireland’s premier regional airline, today announced that it will begin operating two new services from Cardiff to Dublin and Belfast City from 27th March 2006. The airline will operate two flights per day on each route with a 50 seater ATR42 aircraft. Fares and schedules that will suit both business and leisure passengers are currently being finalised and will be announced mid December.
With annual passenger numbers in excess of 1 million, Aer Arann currently operates 26 routes across Ireland, the UK and France with a fleet of 12 ATR 50 and 66 seater aircraft.
Commenting on the announcement Micheal O’Callarain, Marketing Manager Aer Arann said “Our commercial team is continually looking for opportunities for expansion and as such we are delighted to be announcing these two new services from Cardiff today. This year Cardiff is celebrating its centenary as a city and its 50th year as Wales' capital. It is a thriving and vibrant city and we believe that there is considerable untapped demand both on the Dublin and Belfast routes and look forward to developing both services in the New Year.”
With annual passenger numbers in excess of 1 million, Aer Arann currently operates 26 routes across Ireland, the UK and France with a fleet of 12 ATR 50 and 66 seater aircraft.
Commenting on the announcement Micheal O’Callarain, Marketing Manager Aer Arann said “Our commercial team is continually looking for opportunities for expansion and as such we are delighted to be announcing these two new services from Cardiff today. This year Cardiff is celebrating its centenary as a city and its 50th year as Wales' capital. It is a thriving and vibrant city and we believe that there is considerable untapped demand both on the Dublin and Belfast routes and look forward to developing both services in the New Year.”
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How very strange - according to Air Wales website, they are starting CWL - BHD from March 06 and they confirmed this to me by telephone this week.
Presumably they have change their minds!
Presumably they have change their minds!
