Aer Arann
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It seems that Aer Arann has a lot of support and just as the poster above say's from a passenger point of view it's well justified.
I've just come across a pretty long article from an Irish Parliamentary hearing in July. Aer Arann and Ryanair both represented there. As I say, it's a long article but worth the read. RE are less reliant on PSO's now than ever in the past. They have been looking at wet leasing to Air Jamaica.
Pat Breen T.D. Breen questions Aer Arann and Ryanair on their future plans for Shannon Airport
I come back to an earlier point that the new MD is a management accountant and therefore many of the decisions now being taken would have been planned for some time as they use financial forecasting and financial reporting to develop profit and loss accounts for each of the routes they serve.
Anyway, I hope it's of use.
I've just come across a pretty long article from an Irish Parliamentary hearing in July. Aer Arann and Ryanair both represented there. As I say, it's a long article but worth the read. RE are less reliant on PSO's now than ever in the past. They have been looking at wet leasing to Air Jamaica.
Pat Breen T.D. Breen questions Aer Arann and Ryanair on their future plans for Shannon Airport
I come back to an earlier point that the new MD is a management accountant and therefore many of the decisions now being taken would have been planned for some time as they use financial forecasting and financial reporting to develop profit and loss accounts for each of the routes they serve.
Anyway, I hope it's of use.
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News of RE cuts
Anyone hearing any rumours about where the axe will fall as part of Aer Arann rationalisation?
One might expect some news to have emerged from discussions by now...
One might expect some news to have emerged from discussions by now...
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From the RE website.
27th November - Up to 30 positions, primarily among flight crew and cabin crew, which were scheduled for redundancy, will now be retained with the creation of a new Isle of Man base to serve the Isle of Man to London City route announced this week.
It has now been confirmed that the total number of redundancies will be limited to 70. Aer Arann had expected to make up to 100 staff redundant but the airline signalled its intent to seek new charter and contract lease business in an attempt to reduce that number.
“This retention of jobs is a welcome immediate result to a sustained effort to implement a dynamic new business model and a strategy that reflects the economy generally and an aviation industry globally that is under severe pressure” said Aer Arann CEO designate Paul Schütz
The continuing focus on the airline’s contract lease business and the new Isle of Man development will allow Aer Arann to retain a core fleet of 11 aircraft on scheduled services and 1 aircraft on contract lease.
This is a significant improvement on the anticipated fleet reduction although some aircraft will be redeployed and the number of aircraft based in Cork and Galway will reduce by one in each airport. However a new base will be opened on the Isle of Man and an ATR 72-500 will be located there.
“We will continue to focus our efforts on niche routes linking the regions with major urban centres where we can build passenger numbers by offering a reliable, cost effective and quality service to both business and leisure travellers”, Paul Schütz continued.
Aer Arann will be introducing schedule changes in the New Year which will concentrate its operations on routes that continue to perform well. These changes, effective from January 12th, will see services on some routes cut back or suspended. The airline is also opening new routes where it has identified specific business opportunities.
“Route reductions like this are normal for the winter schedule”, explained Paul Schütz, “and while the cuts may be a little deeper in these recessionary times routes that are suspended will be kept under review and may return in the future when the demand is there to support them”.
“We will also continue to seek new route opportunities so that we can strengthen our position as a leading regional carrier”, Paul Schütz continued.
Key points of today’s announcement
• Expected redundancies reduced by 30%
• New Isle of Man base and London City route
• More new route announcements expected
• No change to services between Dublin and Galway, Donegal, Derry, Sligo or Knock.
• Moderate fleet reduction and redeployment
• Three routes suspended
• No permanent route cancellations – Suspended routes will be reviewed in 2009
• Some schedule timing changes to the winter operation – to be reviewed in 2009
“The significant point from today’s announcement is that we have limited the impact on jobs, on the fleet reduction and on route suspensions”, said Paul Schütz.
“We will now implement our new business plan and mix the deployment of our fleet over the contract lease and charter market. We will also develop our scheduled routes to the maximum potential, addressing the need for a service that is not being provided by the larger carriers”, Paul Schütz concluded.
New Route Effective January 19th 2009
• Isle of Man - London City
Suspended Routes Effective January 12th
• Galway/Waterford - Amsterdam
• Kerry - Manchester
• Cork-Glasgow - Prestwick
- Some services around the Heineken Cup Final and Six Nations Rugby will be operated.
Schedule Changes Effective January 12th
• Cork - Dublin
• Cork - Cardiff
• Galway - London Luton
• Galway - Manchester
• Galway - Edinburgh
• Waterford - Birmingham
• Waterford - Manchester
All other current Aer Arann routes remain unchanged.
Seasonal routes scheduled to return in the Summer Schedule include flights from Galway, Waterford and Cork to Lorient and from Cork to Nantes, La Rochelle, Jersey and Southampton. Other possible summer routes are being examined.
27th November - Up to 30 positions, primarily among flight crew and cabin crew, which were scheduled for redundancy, will now be retained with the creation of a new Isle of Man base to serve the Isle of Man to London City route announced this week.
It has now been confirmed that the total number of redundancies will be limited to 70. Aer Arann had expected to make up to 100 staff redundant but the airline signalled its intent to seek new charter and contract lease business in an attempt to reduce that number.
“This retention of jobs is a welcome immediate result to a sustained effort to implement a dynamic new business model and a strategy that reflects the economy generally and an aviation industry globally that is under severe pressure” said Aer Arann CEO designate Paul Schütz
The continuing focus on the airline’s contract lease business and the new Isle of Man development will allow Aer Arann to retain a core fleet of 11 aircraft on scheduled services and 1 aircraft on contract lease.
This is a significant improvement on the anticipated fleet reduction although some aircraft will be redeployed and the number of aircraft based in Cork and Galway will reduce by one in each airport. However a new base will be opened on the Isle of Man and an ATR 72-500 will be located there.
“We will continue to focus our efforts on niche routes linking the regions with major urban centres where we can build passenger numbers by offering a reliable, cost effective and quality service to both business and leisure travellers”, Paul Schütz continued.
Aer Arann will be introducing schedule changes in the New Year which will concentrate its operations on routes that continue to perform well. These changes, effective from January 12th, will see services on some routes cut back or suspended. The airline is also opening new routes where it has identified specific business opportunities.
“Route reductions like this are normal for the winter schedule”, explained Paul Schütz, “and while the cuts may be a little deeper in these recessionary times routes that are suspended will be kept under review and may return in the future when the demand is there to support them”.
“We will also continue to seek new route opportunities so that we can strengthen our position as a leading regional carrier”, Paul Schütz continued.
Key points of today’s announcement
• Expected redundancies reduced by 30%
• New Isle of Man base and London City route
• More new route announcements expected
• No change to services between Dublin and Galway, Donegal, Derry, Sligo or Knock.
• Moderate fleet reduction and redeployment
• Three routes suspended
• No permanent route cancellations – Suspended routes will be reviewed in 2009
• Some schedule timing changes to the winter operation – to be reviewed in 2009
“The significant point from today’s announcement is that we have limited the impact on jobs, on the fleet reduction and on route suspensions”, said Paul Schütz.
“We will now implement our new business plan and mix the deployment of our fleet over the contract lease and charter market. We will also develop our scheduled routes to the maximum potential, addressing the need for a service that is not being provided by the larger carriers”, Paul Schütz concluded.
New Route Effective January 19th 2009
• Isle of Man - London City
Suspended Routes Effective January 12th
• Galway/Waterford - Amsterdam
• Kerry - Manchester
• Cork-Glasgow - Prestwick
- Some services around the Heineken Cup Final and Six Nations Rugby will be operated.
Schedule Changes Effective January 12th
• Cork - Dublin
• Cork - Cardiff
• Galway - London Luton
• Galway - Manchester
• Galway - Edinburgh
• Waterford - Birmingham
• Waterford - Manchester
All other current Aer Arann routes remain unchanged.
Seasonal routes scheduled to return in the Summer Schedule include flights from Galway, Waterford and Cork to Lorient and from Cork to Nantes, La Rochelle, Jersey and Southampton. Other possible summer routes are being examined.
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Cork routes
Aer Arann held out against massive competition from Ryanair on ORK DUB for 3 years, a fair achievement, the times on the twice daily flight are very unsuitable for business travellers so I doubt if they'll survive much longer.
ORK PIK pulled after just 5 weeks, surely they could have given it more time or operated at weekends.
On a positive note it's nice to see ORK JER back but the EI service to Rennes will put them under pressure on routes from ORK to Britanny.
ORK PIK pulled after just 5 weeks, surely they could have given it more time or operated at weekends.
On a positive note it's nice to see ORK JER back but the EI service to Rennes will put them under pressure on routes from ORK to Britanny.
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LCY
Slight problem if an ATR 72 is based at IOM for LCY as type not cleared for use into LCY
London City Airport : News release
Also if they use the ATR 42 it has to be moded for steep approach. However good on Arran for trying to secure jobs its going to be a hard winter and a long spring summer.
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London City Airport : News release
Also if they use the ATR 42 it has to be moded for steep approach. However good on Arran for trying to secure jobs its going to be a hard winter and a long spring summer.
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Ryanair were hauling 7,000 passengers a month when they left ORK-PIK, surely RE could have got a reasonable number to ensure the route was viable. Whats gone wrong, lack of advertising maybe?.
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If you look at the bottom of the piece you will see the list of the 20 aircraft types approved for LCY.
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xtype, rtf press release on their website . . .
"The Aer Arann Isle of Man route will also bring another first to London City Airport as its debuts the 72-seat ATR72-500. It will be the first of its type to operate into London City, bringing high standards of passenger service to the route. Aer Arann is currently participating in a certification programme with the manufacturer, ATR, the UK Civil Aviation Authority and London City Airport."
I would suspect Glasgow was a victim of reducing their presence in Cork rather than poor performance as its operation was linked to the Dublin route, last in/first out if you like.
"The Aer Arann Isle of Man route will also bring another first to London City Airport as its debuts the 72-seat ATR72-500. It will be the first of its type to operate into London City, bringing high standards of passenger service to the route. Aer Arann is currently participating in a certification programme with the manufacturer, ATR, the UK Civil Aviation Authority and London City Airport."
I would suspect Glasgow was a victim of reducing their presence in Cork rather than poor performance as its operation was linked to the Dublin route, last in/first out if you like.
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AerArann are now going onto the Dublin-Blackpool route after Ryanair leave.
Will they stay longer than they did on the Cork - Preswick route?
Will they stay longer than they did on the Cork - Preswick route?
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Aer Arann Fleet
Hi, I am quite interested to know what is going on at Aer Arann in terms of it's fleet. I've just read on Airliners that RE have sold one of their new ATR 72 500 to a swedish airline Golden Air. That was EI-REN. In addition, according to Skyliners EI-RER which was due for delivery shortly is not being taken up and has again been sold; these sales seem to have been kept fairly quiet, no press releases on the website etc.
All I can assume is that these sales are fundamentally cash raising exercises. However, in doing so, they are keeping the older aircraft. I can only assume that this is all down to lease rates, lower on the older, and frankly dirtier aircraft than on the new ones.
RE placed an order for 10 new planes, therefore these actions mean that's down to a max of 8. Is this all part of the recent cost cutting drive? I thought they were to try and lease more planes - surely leasing a new plane would generate more income than leasing an old bus? Even if RE were to basically stay at the same overall fleet numbers, getting rid of the older aircraft in favour of new seems like a sensible policy to me. I can't help feeling that at the moment, as much as I really do like RE, their product is inconsistent and that's a weakness. By that I mean flying a mix of pretty old and frankly tired aircraft (interior wise, not for a second questioning safety), they've got three liveries on the go, they are singing and dancing about their new planes being green, efficient etc yet selling them.
I really hate to be critical especially as an outsider from the industry. But I'd be really interested to know if anyone has any other info about how RE are performing at the moment. I took a flight from Cork to Dublin last month, Out was an ATR72 (I can't recall reg, think was REI) and it was only about half full - that plane felt like it needed gutting and a new interior needed! yet on the flight back CRK -DUB on ATR 42 it was full.
I've not seem any passenger stats for a while. I am very interested in airlines, especially those that seem a bit more of an underdog. I hope RE makes it through this downturn and that they become stronger with it. At the moment though, every good news story like new routes is countered by a bad, routes closing, planes sold..
Anyway, thanks for your time.
All I can assume is that these sales are fundamentally cash raising exercises. However, in doing so, they are keeping the older aircraft. I can only assume that this is all down to lease rates, lower on the older, and frankly dirtier aircraft than on the new ones.
RE placed an order for 10 new planes, therefore these actions mean that's down to a max of 8. Is this all part of the recent cost cutting drive? I thought they were to try and lease more planes - surely leasing a new plane would generate more income than leasing an old bus? Even if RE were to basically stay at the same overall fleet numbers, getting rid of the older aircraft in favour of new seems like a sensible policy to me. I can't help feeling that at the moment, as much as I really do like RE, their product is inconsistent and that's a weakness. By that I mean flying a mix of pretty old and frankly tired aircraft (interior wise, not for a second questioning safety), they've got three liveries on the go, they are singing and dancing about their new planes being green, efficient etc yet selling them.
I really hate to be critical especially as an outsider from the industry. But I'd be really interested to know if anyone has any other info about how RE are performing at the moment. I took a flight from Cork to Dublin last month, Out was an ATR72 (I can't recall reg, think was REI) and it was only about half full - that plane felt like it needed gutting and a new interior needed! yet on the flight back CRK -DUB on ATR 42 it was full.
I've not seem any passenger stats for a while. I am very interested in airlines, especially those that seem a bit more of an underdog. I hope RE makes it through this downturn and that they become stronger with it. At the moment though, every good news story like new routes is countered by a bad, routes closing, planes sold..
Anyway, thanks for your time.
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Rather surprised at that as LCY are not allowing new services to start on aircraft with that few seats. It was that reason that Flybe/Loganair didn't take up the route with the Saab 340.
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ETIHAD code share?
Intrigued to see RE's DUB/IOM flights today, as shown on the IOM arrivals board, are listed both with RE's flight number and also with an ETIHAD flight number. Code share, or c*ck up?
If a code share then some interesting new route options open up. But no publicity, or have I missed something?
If a code share then some interesting new route options open up. But no publicity, or have I missed something?
