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Old 1st Feb 2016, 22:35
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5th 757 for Aer Lingus may be based at SNN, operating SNN-ORD.

Another possibility is BFS-BOS.
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Old 1st Feb 2016, 23:34
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Aer Lingus said they won't be doing any long haul flights from Belfast.
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Old 1st Feb 2016, 23:42
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Had noted that to myself, things may change under IAG though.

Realistically a low chance considering EI being based at BHD, but a rumour nonetheless.
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Old 2nd Feb 2016, 00:33
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Getting very carried away, trust me.

BFS will never happen and SNN will unlikely happen.
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Old 3rd Feb 2016, 05:20
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Considering EI are reducing the cabin crew numbers in SNN from September to transfer to Dublin, a SNN-ORD route by EI is not on the cards for the near future.
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Old 3rd Feb 2016, 07:02
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How can they possibly reduce?
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Old 3rd Feb 2016, 08:30
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That's what I asked but it appears SNN crew have been doing the B757 YYZ service everyday ex DUB since it started.

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Old 3rd Feb 2016, 09:19
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With a second full time 752 at DUB it now makes sense to have 752 crew based?
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Old 3rd Feb 2016, 19:44
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DUB crew have been trained on the 752...
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Old 3rd Feb 2016, 19:52
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YYZ hardly operated for that long with a SNN crew did it?
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Old 3rd Feb 2016, 21:21
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Yep it did. Still is in fact.
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Old 11th Feb 2016, 17:20
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Shannon passenger numbers up 6% in JAN:
Airports see continued growth in flights and passenger numbers

Diversions last year also seen a large increase due to lots of adverse weather at Irish airports :Latest News From Shannon Airport > Shannon weather record upheld in 2015
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Old 14th Feb 2016, 01:21
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Passenger numbers increase because...

"Wide body" aircraft were used? The only passenger wide body In SNN are 767 and 777 for US military apart from diverts. Either the reporter made it up or the SNN spokesperson hasn't a clue. SNN is stagnant and if it were not for all the diversions (when those were transferred to a bus service) and minimalistic increase in the bucket and spade routes there would be zero growth.
SNN needs to be more proactive in getting new airlines and routes from new or existing companies. EI air fares from SNN must be the highest along with ORK to a hub of any airline within a 90minute flight radius. A year after independence the Airport leadership has become stagnant and concentration more on the groups cash cow property arm. No wonder Neil Pakey is leaving- must be hard to work with an institutionalised- governmental- civil servant regime.
It kills me to drive past my airport and drive 2 hours up the road to fly...
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Old 14th Feb 2016, 01:23
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SNN-LHR is expensive, but so is DUB-LHR and anywhere to LHR.
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Old 14th Feb 2016, 01:34
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I'm afraid SNN and ORK are incredibly expensive compared to DUB. DUB have serious competition but we do not. I have my own business with guys in Cork and Ennis so I know well. The SNN morning flight is a curse as to connect to a continental departure means arriving more or less in the evening. Thanks to that longer Timmy Dooley for that vote on Prime Time in 2008! SNN- LHR would have higher yield with a 6am departure.
Strange how EI have culled a number of mid week flights between SNN- LHR in February.
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Old 14th Feb 2016, 01:37
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How about you do a bit of research? DUB fares are only marginally cheaper, not enough to make any difference. The higher fare in SNN and ORK allows them to maintain the lower yield market.

Also have a guess why they culled Shannon, Cork and Dublin flights in February? No demand!
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Old 14th Feb 2016, 02:04
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Hang on a second there. Damn all has been culled from Cork and little or no difference from DUB since the IAG takeover as a whole. You just stated that a higher fare allows a lower yield market. That makes zero sense at all. High fares = high yield. At the end of the day more businesses in the Clare, Limerick, South Galway region head to Dublin due to the following reasons:

Early morning departure to transit/ final destination.
Late event departure to transit/ final destination
Less time lost commuting through LHR.
Cheaper fares by up to 50%.

I want to support my local airport but it would kill my business. The only destinations that are "business convenient" flying from SNN are NY and BOS from SNN.
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Old 14th Feb 2016, 19:56
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Originally Posted by bannercounty
Hang on a second there. Damn all has been culled from Cork and little or no difference from DUB since the IAG takeover as a whole. You just stated that a higher fare allows a lower yield market. That makes zero sense at all. High fares = high yield. At the end of the day more businesses in the Clare, Limerick, South Galway region head to Dublin due to the following reasons:

Early morning departure to transit/ final destination.
Late event departure to transit/ final destination
Less time lost commuting through LHR.
Cheaper fares by up to 50%.

I want to support my local airport but it would kill my business. The only destinations that are "business convenient" flying from SNN are NY and BOS from SNN.
airlines allocate capacity / flights and preferred timings relative to where they get the best return - at the end of the day Shannon is a regional airport there's more money to be had operating from other airports around the world
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Old 14th Feb 2016, 20:15
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Exactly. Which is going to make IAG more money on a morning slot in LHR: a flight from a large European city like say Milan or Hamburg, or a flight from a regional airport like ours? 1.6 million passengers used SNN in 2014, many cities that flights arrive into LHR from in that busy morning period have populations bigger than that, remember it's when the majority of arrivals from the US arrive, BA's biggest money spinner. A slot pair at that time costs between 30 and 40 million pounds....how many years do you reckon it woukd take for a SNN flight to pay that off?

Dublin-London is the second busiest air route in the world, of course it's going to get priority from ANY airline looking to link London with this Island, it's an absolute gold mine!
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Old 15th Feb 2016, 16:00
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Dublin's early link to LHR is actually quite disappointing relative to other Europeans with a fraction of the market.

Anyway, an earlier slot may sometime become available, SNN-LHR isn't exactly just break even either.

Since the A320 was reintroudced in October, Heathrow figures are up massively. Alot more profit for EI just from a larger aircraft.
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