SHANNON

[AerRyan]

I think you're right, it will be challenging.

Schedule released today.

Berlin, Memmingen, Paris cut. (-6)
Stansted cut by 4 (to 12w) and Manchester cut by 1 (to 4w) (-5)

Lanzarote increases to 2w (+1).

Could we kick FR off MAN and invite Stobart back?

[GCUFD]

Shannon Airport shortlisted for prestigious international award : Limerick Post Newspaper

Once again shortlisted for the world routes marketing awards.

Shannon is confounding the naysayers, like many times before.

[AerRyan]

No amount of awards will bring routes sadly.

[boyzinblue]

Are Memmingen and Berlin gone for S17?

[AerRyan]

Memmingen definitely is cut, Berlin is probably cut.

[Kinocker]

@GCUFD - is it not more of a concern that, seeing as Shannon are apparently being recognised as being amongst the best in the world at marketing routes, there doesn't seem to be much in the way of route expansion going on?

[Una Due Tfc]

Originally Posted by Kinocker

@GCUFD - is it not more of a concern that, seeing as Shannon are apparently being recognised as being amongst the best in the world at marketing routes, there doesn't seem to be much in the way of route expansion going on?

That's a very good point.

Look at what's been lost too, especially...cough..."Paris" Beauvais. If Ryanair can't make that route work, nobody can. The most visited city in the most visited country in the world and Ryanair can't make it work. Let that sink in

[AerRyan]

Funny that they had it on 2x daily before.

I'd be surprised if you could do almost any city route at a Tuesday/Saturday timing and actually do well.

Its the schedule that killed the route.

[Una Due Tfc]

Originally Posted by AerRyan

Funny that they had it on 2x daily before.

I'd be surprised if you could do almost any city route at a Tuesday/Saturday timing and actually do well.

Its the schedule that killed the route.

True enough, but to be honest if Ryanair see Joe Bloggs from Co.Clare booked a trip with them, but flew from Dublin (or Cork) and he's done it before, they are reasonably going to assume he's willing to travel to that other airport to fly to Paris (or any other route ex SNN that RYR do not face competition on), so instead of pointing that SNN based 738 at Paris they can point it at LGW or STN and try and p*** on EI's chips or the non based aircraft needed to do a daily schedule can head off somewhere against EZY,WZZ etc ex BVA.

[AerRyan]

Your point is valid to an extent, but I personally think this is only true for some routes. Some will travel from other airports, some won't travel at all. If there's enough peioke wanting to fly from SNN, its good business to fly them. I think a Monday/Friday schedule would have made the route very popular.

There's also the point that if there was a Monday/Friday schedule, it would steal a lot of PAX from the ORK service.

[gavinhicks]

Ryanairs Berlin schedule is yet to be released, so the Shannon service is probably safe, its a consistent top performer in terms of numbers and they get good yields off it, Beauvais and memmingen is no surprise, another 2 to the long list of ryanairs once served destinations from shannon...

[AerRyan]

Edit:

Berlin is now loaded in the system, but that makes 15 routes. Dodgy info from Ryanair.

[Dreamliner_01]

Originally Posted by AerRyan

Edit:

Berlin is now loaded in the system, but that makes 15 routes. Dodgy info from Ryanair.

That's good news although a huge blow to lose Paris and Munich - following the cut of Paris and Frankfurt from knock fair to say these flights won't be returning to the west and mid west for a long time

[PPRuNeUser0176]

Airport have commenced trails of a new security screening system where by the system can comply with EU or TSA standards therefore eliminating the second screening for passengers traveling to the US. Would be a big plus for both SNN/DUB and if successful.

[bannercounty]

How would it be a "big plus" to DUB"? Is it going to be shared with DUB ��. Haven't SNN given DUB enough with the cash cow that Aer Rianta International is?

[Una Due Tfc]

Originally Posted by bannercounty

How would it be a "big plus" to DUB"? Is it going to be shared with DUB ��. Haven't SNN given DUB enough with the cash cow that Aer Rianta International is?

Does anyone know the actual figure on the debt DAA took on for SNN?

[AerRyan]

100m, but the DAA used a Shannon company to fund T2 in Dublin, but living in the tabloid world we do, that'll never matter.

Very childish comment from Banner county above. Advancing airport systems in ALL our airports is an advantage, nobody in the Airport business plays the "my airports better than yours". That only seems to be a game on here.

[PPRuNeUser0176]

100m, but the DAA used a Shannon company to fund T2 in Dublin, but living in the tabloid world we do, that'll never matter.

Very childish comment from Banner county above. Advancing airport systems in ALL our airports is an advantage, nobody in the Airport business plays the "my airports better than yours". That only seems to be a game on here.

A Shannon based operation but it only funded a small amount and remember it was not revenue generated from SNN Airport which is the key part here.

How would it be a "big plus" to DUB"? Is it going to be shared with DUB ��. Haven't SNN given DUB enough with the cash cow that Aer Rianta International is?

Shared or not somebody else will product the same system and DUB will benefit with increased USPC capacity if TSA checks were gone. Aer Ryan is right very childish.

[GCUFD]

A Shannon based operation but it only funded a small amount and remember it was not revenue generated from SNN Airport which is the key part here.

Indeed and, for what its worth, I've a distinct memory of paying for parking at Dublin with a credit card, to see it appearing on the bill as Shannon Airport Authority. I take it that reflected a conscious decision to locate group activities in Shannon on regional development grounds.

[AerRyan]

This has been done to death.

My only comment is that all of a sudden a loss making airport turned to a profit making airport in less than a year simply for leaving a monopoly airport authority. That doesn't suggest the DAA were overly kind.