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Old 16th Feb 2012, 21:53
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SNN News

Continental's second SNN-EWR CO67 for the summer has been cancelled leaving just the CO25 for the summer.

Omni Air has reduced operations through the airport, All DC10's have been removed from the fleet.

Extra Turkey charter on a monday in the summer to Bodrum.
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Old 16th Feb 2012, 21:59
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Continental's second SNN-EWR CO67 for the summer has been cancelled leaving just the CO25 for the summer.
Its bookable from end of May until start of September.
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Old 17th Feb 2012, 04:22
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It will be removed from the GDS shortly
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 17:10
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It will be removed from the GDS shortly
CO/UA updated the GDS and EWR is reduced it from 13 weekly to 9 weekly for the summer.
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Old 28th Feb 2012, 10:12
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CO/UA confirm that EWR will only operate daily for the summer, they claim its because of there maintenance schedule and the extra flights will resume in 2013/ Also SNN has more US flights than Lisbon, Athens, Warsaw.

Shannon upbeat despite cut to summer transatlantic services - The Irish Times - Tue, Feb 28, 2012
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Old 28th Feb 2012, 10:24
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Slightly odd to draw attention to the Aer Lingus reductions to New York, when their transatlantic capacity will remain the same.

We get a real insight into the calibre of our local councillors in the statement, “I welcome the increased service on the Boston route but am naturally disappointed that it is at the expense of the JFK service.”. How else would it have been achieved?
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Old 29th Feb 2012, 23:56
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Just wondering if anybody thinks that there would be a market for an Aer Lingus weekly summer services to Malaga and another holiday destination.

I know Malaga is a well served destination but with the capacity from Cork and Dublin, would think it could work well with a Saturday daytime service on the A330 during the Summer. With the New York flight in at 6am, a 7.50am departure would be realistic with a return at about 3pm allowing a 5pm departure to Boston. This is similar to what is happening daily in Dublin. This would increase usage of the aircraft. I think Ryanair operate the route already but a daytime Saturday service on an A330 with inflight entertainment is bound to be attractive.

Also would it make sense to replace the Sat evening LHR service with a weekly service to Faro or Palma for the summer months. Again I am sure passenger numbers would not be a problem and this is likely to be a relatively quiet LHR service?
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Old 1st Mar 2012, 00:42
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An A330 would be to large, and if it did happen I think it would affect Cork ops.
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Old 1st Mar 2012, 09:40
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There is certainly a market for the bucket and spade market. But a driving factor in it not happening is certainly that Cork loads would suffer
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Old 1st Mar 2012, 09:56
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I think a more pertinent factor would be the failure of LGW and CDG in quick order at SNN. EI have clearly shown they have an interest in growing their presence at SNN, but those tow routes, which to an outsider should have worked, were total dogs and dropped in a matter of weeks. The problem EI face is that they KNOW they can make money flying to Spain in the summer at ORK, DUB and BFS, even against FR and easyJet. The summer schedule is fairly tight for the A320 and A330 fleets. I don't think they are prepared to take that kind of risk at SNN, at the minute. Although the A330 is a tempting option, the risk of it having a technical problem, getting stuck in Spain and wrecking the schedule for days is one issue, the huge capacity of an A330 on European routes and the inevitable rock bottom fares would absolutely wreck yield from SNN, almost certainly out of ORK and possibly impact DUB as well. I do think this kind of service is possible, if EI were ever to base a second A320 or an A319 out of SNN.

How are the charters doing from SNN at the minute? If there is quite a lot of charter demand it may indicate a strong demand for seasonal service. Who is operating what at SNN this summer?
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Old 1st Mar 2012, 14:24
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Aer Lingus won't do anything at SNN that will interfere with it's Cork operation, also I have a feeling that SNN went and cut a deal with FR a few years back when EI were the major operator out of SNN at the time. EI wer'nt best pleased and don't feel they owe SNN anything.

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Old 1st Mar 2012, 15:05
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http://www.transport.ie/upload/gener...AIRPORTS-0.PDF

For anyone who wants to read it. Not saying anything most people haven't known already...
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Old 1st Mar 2012, 16:59
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Anyone in Shannon have the latest pics of Malev a/c changing titles to EI reg's?
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 12:39
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There's no pleasing some people.

Shannon Airport will risk closure
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 13:34
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How will the shortfall be funded?

The key question as far as Shn is concerned is who will continue to fund the big shortfall in operating and debt servicing costs..irrespective of the ownership? There appears to be a view locally that if it's run by regional interests then it will be more cost efficient and effective in attracting new airlines? (and that a private operator under a concession model would acheive this somehow?) If they are cut loose from the DAA umbilical cord then it will be very interesting to see how the airport plans to generate the hard cash needed to pay wages and maintain the infrastructure over the next 3-5 years while they implement all of these new plans...i wouldnt bet against them having to consider a pax levy in the short/medium term as some other regional airports here and in the UK and Canada have had to introduce ...if the local interests dont agree to fund the shortfall. Regional interests will have to get real on the true costs of maintaining an interantional airport and stop playing politics.
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 15:28
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They could try and revive the inward charter business they had from Germany for almost 30 years. The Ryanair put an end to that even though they then lost of all the Ryanair Scheduled German Routes. The 3 shift operation is probably eating up cash as is the case in Cork where there is virtually no traffic from Midnight to 0600!
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 15:52
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Why is it that almost every Irish airport is under threat of closure? Isn't this a significant lack of foresight?
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 16:04
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Airlines want to go where the population is. The motorways have changed the ball game. People will put up with driving to Dublin even though it'll cost them more in the long run. A new airport about 30 mins North of Cork and a similar distance South of Limerick is probably the only way that you would get an airport with the critical mass to compete with Dublin but that'd not going to happen.
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 18:16
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Shannon passenger numbers down to 76,805 in January, a drop of 16.6%. That will have been Shannon's quietest month in a long, long time.

The Ryanair multi-aircraft base is long gone - how are passenger numbers still falling at such a high rate - has there been a significant drop-off in troop numbers?
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 19:06
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Delta did not operate this winter and the troop numbers are certainly down.
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