CORK
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,455
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Ryan2000
If Katowice is a success, it is likely that services to Lodz, Gdansk, Wroclow and Poznan could also come on stream. In my view however Kracow has the most potential of all the Polish Cities as it would attract Munster people who are looking for an alternative City Break Destination to Prague and Budapest.
How about it Aerlingus. There are several slots free in your winter schedule ex Cork?
How about it Aerlingus. There are several slots free in your winter schedule ex Cork?
Rebel PPRuNer
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Toronto, Canada (formerly EICK)
Age: 51
Posts: 2,834
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Apologies if this has been on the thread earlier and I've missed it.
ORK-GLA (BA-Loganair) gone from October.
DUB-GLA (ditto) gone from May.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showpos...4&postcount=18
Who will step into the breach? FR? RE? EI????
ORK-GLA (BA-Loganair) gone from October.
DUB-GLA (ditto) gone from May.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showpos...4&postcount=18
Who will step into the breach? FR? RE? EI????
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Cork, Ireland
Posts: 1,625
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Not sure if it is a full pull out, MarkD? The links mentions the end of daily flights on the route from Glasgow - perhaps it is just a reduction from the daily service which would not be too out of the ordinary? Hope the situation is clarified soon.
Today's Cork Evening Echo has a story that the new terminal will open for Arrivals only on 10th May and that Departures will operate from the old terminal. If there is any truth to this story what a diabolical farce the new terminal story has become. Three years, countless millions & millions of Euros spent and still not ready to properly open on the agreed date. The mind boggles at the genius involved to get us to this point!
A Thomsonfly (BY) Boeing 767-300 brought a pilgrimage party back from Lourdes to Cork this afternoon. She parked nose in at Stand 15 that later needed a pushback. The big Boeing was a fine sight. There were two Bus Eireann city busses used to transport pax from the aircraft to the terminal. They were the low floor kind that could take wheelchair bound pax. Such a shame that Cork Airport have little interest in providing a regular service of this kind to all passengers bearing in mind the airport's wet weather record.
Heard that this afternoon's EZY781 from Gatwick had a TCAS Traffic Alert followed by a Resolution Advisory on final approach to runway 17 at Cork. Saw the aircraft climb away from the approach but have no other details as I was stuffing my face and adding to my cholestrol at the time.
The EI fuel surcharge for long haul flights is interesting in that no flights are being cancelled which is unlike the situation adopted by Slatterys Travel when announcing the cancellation of the Cork to New York flights late last autumn?
There, that is something yez can be thinking about now!
Today's Cork Evening Echo has a story that the new terminal will open for Arrivals only on 10th May and that Departures will operate from the old terminal. If there is any truth to this story what a diabolical farce the new terminal story has become. Three years, countless millions & millions of Euros spent and still not ready to properly open on the agreed date. The mind boggles at the genius involved to get us to this point!
A Thomsonfly (BY) Boeing 767-300 brought a pilgrimage party back from Lourdes to Cork this afternoon. She parked nose in at Stand 15 that later needed a pushback. The big Boeing was a fine sight. There were two Bus Eireann city busses used to transport pax from the aircraft to the terminal. They were the low floor kind that could take wheelchair bound pax. Such a shame that Cork Airport have little interest in providing a regular service of this kind to all passengers bearing in mind the airport's wet weather record.
Heard that this afternoon's EZY781 from Gatwick had a TCAS Traffic Alert followed by a Resolution Advisory on final approach to runway 17 at Cork. Saw the aircraft climb away from the approach but have no other details as I was stuffing my face and adding to my cholestrol at the time.
The EI fuel surcharge for long haul flights is interesting in that no flights are being cancelled which is unlike the situation adopted by Slatterys Travel when announcing the cancellation of the Cork to New York flights late last autumn?
There, that is something yez can be thinking about now!
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Cork
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Todays Examiner
Extensive full page article in Today's Examiner on the Airport Debt - good to see the political anti being raised again - but position not looking good and appears to be an acceptance of some debt.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Ireland nowadays
Posts: 1,440
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
MarkD
I suspect that they still won't have any trouble filling them.
Hopefully, the new terminal will be fully open by the May 20th (Heineken Cup Final Day). It will provide an interesting test of its ability to process a large number of passengers.
Edit: Something that's just occured to me. The airbridge might see a good bit of use that weekend
I suspect that they still won't have any trouble filling them.
Hopefully, the new terminal will be fully open by the May 20th (Heineken Cup Final Day). It will provide an interesting test of its ability to process a large number of passengers.
Edit: Something that's just occured to me. The airbridge might see a good bit of use that weekend
Last edited by 840; 25th Apr 2006 at 11:23.
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,455
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Airbridge
Must be the only airport in Europe that has only one airbridge ! Shannon had 4 airbridges thirty five years ago when they handled only a quarter of the traffic that Cork is now dealing with. Lame excuses about Aerlingus and others not using them aren't credible when these airlines use them at every other airport they fly into.
More to do with the long running and increasingly bitter row between the DAA and the CAA
More to do with the long running and increasingly bitter row between the DAA and the CAA
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Cork, Ireland
Posts: 1,625
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Westcorkman, can you post a link or give a few more details on yesterday's Irish Examiner article? Missed out on it and cannot find it on-line but maybe I am not searching for it correctly even though I have tried. Thanks.
The rugby final in Cardiff must now put more pressure on Cork Airport about the opening of the new terminal. There is a rumor going around that DAA want Cork to open the terminal on 10th May but that Cork is saying no until the finances with respect to the debts are resolved. Cork may just have a point here because if they accept the keys from the builders and open up for business the repayments will then need to begin? As I say this is a rumor but if there is anything to it there is a game of high stakes poker being played out between the CAA and DAA and that the atmostphere between the two bodies may indeed be tense?
What Cork Airport does over the course of the rugby weekend, 20th May, 2006 will be crucial. The airport has one of those unique opportunities to mark the opening of the new terminal. Hopefully, there should be a lot of extra charters in for the Munster game bringing fans over to Wales for the team's last hurrah against Biarritz.
What a backdrop there would be if two or three wide bodied airliners were parked nose in to the new terminal early on the morning of the game! Once in a lifetime opportunity to launch the new terminal in huge publicity. If handled right could work out to be Cork Airport's finest hour! A big if?
Ryanair cancelled their second ORK-DUB-ORK, FR9844/5 rotation today. The aircraft was then assigned to operate the morning FR902/1 to Stansted which is normally flown by a STN based aircraft as the FR901/2. There was a runway lights failure at Stansted last night so a lot of the based FR aeroplanes had to divert and there have been some knock-on cancellations today.
The rugby final in Cardiff must now put more pressure on Cork Airport about the opening of the new terminal. There is a rumor going around that DAA want Cork to open the terminal on 10th May but that Cork is saying no until the finances with respect to the debts are resolved. Cork may just have a point here because if they accept the keys from the builders and open up for business the repayments will then need to begin? As I say this is a rumor but if there is anything to it there is a game of high stakes poker being played out between the CAA and DAA and that the atmostphere between the two bodies may indeed be tense?
What Cork Airport does over the course of the rugby weekend, 20th May, 2006 will be crucial. The airport has one of those unique opportunities to mark the opening of the new terminal. Hopefully, there should be a lot of extra charters in for the Munster game bringing fans over to Wales for the team's last hurrah against Biarritz.
What a backdrop there would be if two or three wide bodied airliners were parked nose in to the new terminal early on the morning of the game! Once in a lifetime opportunity to launch the new terminal in huge publicity. If handled right could work out to be Cork Airport's finest hour! A big if?
Ryanair cancelled their second ORK-DUB-ORK, FR9844/5 rotation today. The aircraft was then assigned to operate the morning FR902/1 to Stansted which is normally flown by a STN based aircraft as the FR901/2. There was a runway lights failure at Stansted last night so a lot of the based FR aeroplanes had to divert and there have been some knock-on cancellations today.
Last edited by Tom the Tenor; 25th Apr 2006 at 14:32.
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,621
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
That Examiner article from yesterday (hope the link works).
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cork
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
TOT, in relation to the FR DUB flt cancelled this morning, the reason for this was Stansted was in 175m FOG last night. They are resurfacing the runway at Stansted over the summer months. Therefore there is no centerline lighting which is a requirement for cat3 landings. The airport at the moment has cat3 ils but cat1 lighting, which is why 28 aircraft diverted to LGW,LTN,BHX and EMA. This put the whole FR operation out of STN into chaos this morning.
Unfortunatley this will be the case until end of november and has been notamed for the last 2 months.
Unfortunatley this will be the case until end of november and has been notamed for the last 2 months.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Cork
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Shannon pulls again
New bilateral between Canada and Ireland ... everything has to put in to shannon in both directions .... now thats political influence .......What are we doing wrong ?
Tom Hope you found the examiner article .....the above link from cyrano works .
Tom Hope you found the examiner article .....the above link from cyrano works .
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: cork , ireland
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Tom,
As far as i know the largest aircraft to park nose into the building is a b757, any wide body aircraft will need to go to stand 14 where its a tow in and push out system .. not 100% on this though. Also the news on the hill is that although the build will be open from 10 may it will not be operational .. note the wording ... open yes operational no , again only rumours !!!!!
As far as i know the largest aircraft to park nose into the building is a b757, any wide body aircraft will need to go to stand 14 where its a tow in and push out system .. not 100% on this though. Also the news on the hill is that although the build will be open from 10 may it will not be operational .. note the wording ... open yes operational no , again only rumours !!!!!
Rebel PPRuNer
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Toronto, Canada (formerly EICK)
Age: 51
Posts: 2,834
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
orkpilot
there's been 747s before - wasn't there a QF one last year? Presume a towbar would be shipped in as required with notice given.
there's been 747s before - wasn't there a QF one last year? Presume a towbar would be shipped in as required with notice given.
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Shenzhen & Cork
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
TTT, here is the text of that Irish Examiner article in full.
25/04/06
Ahern urged to intervene in airport row
By Alan Good
CORK City Council last night called on Taoiseach Bertie Ahern personally to intervene in the row over the €160 million debt for Cork Airport’s new terminal.
The council including 11 Fianna Fáil members voted in favour of a motion stating their regret at Transport Minister Martin Cullen's insistence that no funding will be approved to service the potential debt.
Ahead of tonight's Seanad debate on the implications of the break-up of Aer Rianta on Cork and Shannon airports, the council asked the Taoiseach to help "resolve a situation that could hinder any further development at Cork Airport".
Cork Airport Authority (CAA) has for months been locked in a bitter dispute with Dublin Airport Authority (DAA) over who will carry the cost of the new terminal, due to open next month.
The authorities were appointed after the break-up of Aer Rianta in 2003.
Mr Cullen's predecessor as Transport Minister, Seamus Brennan, pledged in 2003 that Dublin would carry the debts of both Cork and Shannon following the break-up, but the DAA are now refusing to do so.
Last night's motion was proposed by Labour Councillor Michael O'Connell, who is also chairman of the South West Regional Authority.
However, it did not pass without incident, as Socialist councilllor Mick Barry angered councillors with a suggested amendment that removed any reference to the DAA. Councillors voted overwhelmingly against Mr Barry's amendment, having agreed to remove the word 'deplores' from the motion by request of Fianna Fáil councillor Tom O'Driscoll.
The council has asked the DAA for co-operation on the issue.
"The council is requesting that the Taoiseach instruct the DAA to either service the proposed debt at Cork Airport, or enter into a leasing agreement with the CAA at a nominal fee that would allow Cork Airport to continue to develop in the years ahead," read the motion. Mr Cullen has so far refused to set a deadline as to when the issue will be resolved, but has said he "wants to see three strong State airports".
The Seanad debate will take place after the Labour Senate group secured it in private members' time, following a request by Cork-based councillor Ciarán Lynch. "We're not saying that Dublin Airport should be saddled with all the debt, but we believe Cork and Shannon must be given a clean sheet if they are to have a fresh start," he said.
25/04/06
Ahern urged to intervene in airport row
By Alan Good
CORK City Council last night called on Taoiseach Bertie Ahern personally to intervene in the row over the €160 million debt for Cork Airport’s new terminal.
The council including 11 Fianna Fáil members voted in favour of a motion stating their regret at Transport Minister Martin Cullen's insistence that no funding will be approved to service the potential debt.
Ahead of tonight's Seanad debate on the implications of the break-up of Aer Rianta on Cork and Shannon airports, the council asked the Taoiseach to help "resolve a situation that could hinder any further development at Cork Airport".
Cork Airport Authority (CAA) has for months been locked in a bitter dispute with Dublin Airport Authority (DAA) over who will carry the cost of the new terminal, due to open next month.
The authorities were appointed after the break-up of Aer Rianta in 2003.
Mr Cullen's predecessor as Transport Minister, Seamus Brennan, pledged in 2003 that Dublin would carry the debts of both Cork and Shannon following the break-up, but the DAA are now refusing to do so.
Last night's motion was proposed by Labour Councillor Michael O'Connell, who is also chairman of the South West Regional Authority.
However, it did not pass without incident, as Socialist councilllor Mick Barry angered councillors with a suggested amendment that removed any reference to the DAA. Councillors voted overwhelmingly against Mr Barry's amendment, having agreed to remove the word 'deplores' from the motion by request of Fianna Fáil councillor Tom O'Driscoll.
The council has asked the DAA for co-operation on the issue.
"The council is requesting that the Taoiseach instruct the DAA to either service the proposed debt at Cork Airport, or enter into a leasing agreement with the CAA at a nominal fee that would allow Cork Airport to continue to develop in the years ahead," read the motion. Mr Cullen has so far refused to set a deadline as to when the issue will be resolved, but has said he "wants to see three strong State airports".
The Seanad debate will take place after the Labour Senate group secured it in private members' time, following a request by Cork-based councillor Ciarán Lynch. "We're not saying that Dublin Airport should be saddled with all the debt, but we believe Cork and Shannon must be given a clean sheet if they are to have a fresh start," he said.
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Cork Ireland
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
We so far what has been slotted are a few 757's, a Monarch A300 and A330. And rumour has it a Air Atlanta 747 may also be coming (since Cardiff Airport have asked airlines to use large aircraft where possible - since they feel that they will easier handle a smaller number of LARGE aricraft that a large number of SMALL aircraft). They dont was a repeat of the fiasco that happened at Cardiff last time.
As for the opening of the Terminal, various dates has been mentioned 10th May, 20th May, Middle July and 01 October. Not sure which it will be. However somewhere it mentioned that the New Terminal (T2) would be used for arrivals, and the old Terminal (T1) wold be used for departures. Would seem to be a stupid move if this were to happen ....... or would it ?
As for the opening of the Terminal, various dates has been mentioned 10th May, 20th May, Middle July and 01 October. Not sure which it will be. However somewhere it mentioned that the New Terminal (T2) would be used for arrivals, and the old Terminal (T1) wold be used for departures. Would seem to be a stupid move if this were to happen ....... or would it ?
Rebel PPRuNer
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Toronto, Canada (formerly EICK)
Age: 51
Posts: 2,834
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Makes more sense than the reverse - I imagine check-in/boarding is by far for stress-inducing for a new set of equipment than the reverse. More cost for security and other staff I reckon though.