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Old 4th Oct 2005, 11:48
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CORK

I'm trying to get a feel for the new rules, but I think this is OK as it fits in with:-

So you may start a new thread relative to Airports with just their name. As I have done before closing the 'old' ones.
and I don't think it falls foul of

NO airline websites or booking facilities are allowed to be posted. No advertising of any kind too.
I guess it'll get removed if it's a problem.

No. Just changed to CAPITAL letters


Anyway, my rumour for Cork Airport is that SN Brussels Airlines will be restarting Cork-Brussels at some point in the new year.
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Looks like Aer Arann are making a stand. Up from three to four on weekdays on ORK-DUB from the end November after FR begin their schedule to Dublin. Still nothing like the current nine daily of course but at least it is a move forward again and complements nicely the new extra Sunday flight to Belfast.

Now, if only CATII was put right!

The SN Brussels flights worked fine with good loads. Could not go wrong with 2 or 3 flights a week. They would get a Cead Mile Failte from me, anyway!
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this CAT 2 bull is annoying,their aircraft seem to be certified but why arent they shooting them,for a pilot to carry out a CAT2 and get certified,a number of 'practice' CAT2's must be carried out with a certified crew member and the weather doesnt have to be that bad,so whats the hold up??
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sn brussels

re the news that sn brussels may start up the ork brussels route again, id like to voice my delight at this news, its a winner for sure 3 or 4 times a week. actually saw brian crowley in terminal today cant help thinking it would be of benifit to himself and mr covney etc... it ll be great for me as itll have me home in rebel country in mid afternoon rather than evening time.. going on past timings..... on a side issue i traveled on the fr to lpl today id say only 20 people on it??? loads always good on other ocasions. my company paid fr 0.01 cent for the flight and 10 euro on tax... big money for mol from me today!!!! i read on another post about swiss doing a zuich cork flight during the summer just gone.. how did that go for them cant beleve i did nt even hear about it.. does nt say much for advertisement ehh....
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Let's hope FR don't give SN the same welcome they usually give now they are all about Cork.
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I'll just clarify what that all I heard is that they will be back next year.

I don't know if there will be an increase in frequency [I doubt it though]. I strongly suspect that it will be a summer only service. Probably, it will run for longer than the two months it ran for last year.
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with the advent of the fr move to cork i for one would whole heartedley welcome any new routes ex cork no matter who they compete with. in the end it means more selection for the cork public. and at the end of the day it will mean more a/c based in ork. which means more jobs for us ex pats??. i was delighted that sn brussels tried the cork thing but was very disapointed they didnt continue it into the winter. i was looking at the fr web site this morning and there are a few routes that fr could give a go from cork in the future.. ie nantes, manchester, luton, glasgow, paris, brussels, manchuria, malaga + one or two other regional english destinations that escape my mind. id be interested on others opinions on the above. i know they are going head to head with other carriers but competition will be of good service to the traveling public.. its ripe for the picking in my opinion... whats yours,
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Aer Lingus - Summer 2006

Does anybody know what Aer Lingus' plans for summer 2006 are?

At the moment if you try to book, the same timetables that were used in Summer 2005 show up except that Munich isn't bookable.

Last summer it was Faro that was the poorly performing route - as seen by the fact that it was replaced by Warsaw for the Winter season.

Munich seemed to finally produce decent numbers after a slow start. I would be a little surprised if it was dropped.
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Yet more headaches on the horizon for Cork Airport?

Drainage work has begun on the grass abeam the TNT facility at Cork so there is no access from the main ramp to taxiway Alpha to runway 17. Looks like CATII ILS to runway 17 will be out of action again?

Meanwhile, it was lashing out of the heavens last Sunday night as the Aviajet/Air Atlanta A310 on Stand 13 disembarked her pilgrim passengers from Lourdes. What a welcome home. The poor pax must have been drenched to the skin.

Later the same evening the FR907 arrived quite late after 11 pm and was parked on Stand 5. The quickly following EI725 had to wait for some time on a taxiway before getting the same stand as her two sisterships were parked for the night on Stands 6, 7 and the Malev on Stand 8. Just what you need so late at night when everyone is getting tired.

Elsewhere, the dumbing down continues. FR did not operate the 905/6 yesterday and she is not listed either for 18th and 19th October and the now infamous FR903/4 is not listed for the four Wednesdays from 9th November. Mind you, snn flights to STN are also being affected with some cancellations.

Can anyone give details when Ryanair last cancelled any Cork flights? Seems to me that Cork pax are being softened up for LGW?
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jesus tom you beat me to it. what is going on at ryan air???????? was looking at the web site this morning and inparticular the 20 oct and they are showing just one flight into cork the 901 in the morning. but they are showing three flights out. where are the spare a/c coming from?? ive been a very regular user of ryan air over the past few months and have found them very reliable. but that sort of service is terrible.. i to would like to know whats going on.
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why would the ILS be down during drainage work ?? it will just mean a revert to the old system before taxiway alpha and have the CAT2 hold near taxiway charlie.
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there are a few routes that fr could give a go from cork in the future.. ie nantes, manchester, luton, glasgow, paris, brussels, manchuria, malaga + one or two other regional english destinations
Now that's an interesting thought... FR to North East China...
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eastjimmy.

In your particuar case, it is probably a safe bet that all the inbound flites are full, hence there is no seats available for booking.
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MOL must of been smiling as he saw the news yesterday,CIE are increasing rail ticket prices by 10% so a cork to dublin return ticket will cost you a pricey 61.50,surely he can beat that!!
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CAT2 being out of commission due to the drainage works contributed big time to last weekend's disaster of diversions from Cork to Dublin, Kerry and snn. The busiest periods on Friday night and Sunday morning were the times affected and at least 20 flights were lost to Cork. How many thousands of innocent passengers were involved is anyone's guess. Do Cork people count at Cork Airport at all?

Now, this week the weather has been very bad so we can only guess what progress there has been on the drainage and last week the amount of work done appeared to be at a minimum.

If the viz goes below CAT1 with CAT2 off the air in a few weeks time and FR are sending a 737 down from DUB the aeroplane will be heading back again to Dublin. O'Leary wont be hangin' around at Cork waiting for weather to improve. CIE may win this one yet on Cork-Dublin.

Two bird strikes at Cork in the last 10 or 11 days. Both EI A320s, EI-DEA last week and on last Monday again with EI-DEL. Fair amount of damage done to both aeroplanes by all accounts.

I am in despair of Cork Airport these days and the winter schedule has yet to begin.

No doubt there is much guffawing from the the Midwest area at Cork's woes.
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its back to CAT 2 status on 24th,the alpha taxiway was closed around stand 9 and 10 thats why no cat2,just looking at the notams.tom what kind of damage was caused?
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Are you querying the damage caused to the EI A320s by the birdstrikes or the continuing damage to the reputation of Cork Airport caused by diversions and lack of CAT2 in low viz? Either way, pretty bad, eh!?

EI-DEA was parked up at Cork for nearly a week up to some time last weekend when she evenutally left. Aeroplanes parked up for nearly a week dont make money? Damage to EI-DEL must have been somewhat less as she is now gone.

On the positive side the new bit to the short term car park is in use with the new exit points now open for business. This extended facility will come in handy if come next summer the new terminal is still not ready!!!

The priorities are just right? No room for aeroplanes to park overnight but keep packin' the cars in at all costs. Why not put another 50 cents charge on the Car Park at the same time?

Who needs air traffic and passengers to make money?

However, maybe I am being just a tad too cynical now? There really is some good news to celebrate! Jet2 are at last coming to us at Cork as their new flight from Newcastle begins tomorrow.

Let us wish Jet2 lots of success with their new NCL-ORK services. Are the Jet2 737s CAT2? Will be needed!

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Any idea when the new terminal will open. I am hearing nasty rumours that it will be 2007.

Re: winter weather & cat 2.. intl connections are now unreliable that i've now taken to flying out of snn to the us.
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yes tom the damage i was enquiring about,thanks.yes jet2 will be able to shoot cat2, they can probably actually shoot cat3!!

no it will be open by march/april
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What's the hang up about CAT II V CAT III??? The normal minima for Cat II is 100ft RA and 300M and for CAT IIIA, 50ft RA and 200M (OK on the Jepps it may be different apt/rwy specific), if you couldn't get in on CAT II but you would get in on CAT III, just a bit of bad luck and you may have to shoot another approach.

Where Cork's let down are the high winds, and thus for the aircraft I fly it makes SFA difference if were are CAT II or CAT III. The X Wind limit being 15kts for autoland. I believe the F100 can limit is far superior in the region of 30-35? (Pls correct if wrong). So if the wind's out of limits for autoland it's back to good old Cat I!! So sometimes you're just not destined to get in!

I don't feel having CAT III capability in Cork will solve all it's problems.

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