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forgot to ask earlier but for who is the buildinf down by the various cargo buildings being built for.... is it another cargo building or what...
answers on a post card to.
eastjimmy,
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some where on the out skits of ireland(dublin)
sita... ya.langer.163millioneuro
answers on a post card to.
eastjimmy,
the wilderness...
some where on the out skits of ireland(dublin)
sita... ya.langer.163millioneuro
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Too little too late? Should have this response months ago. Waffle, waffle, hot air. Cork to be let down again is my bet by our public reps.
It will get worse. Routes and jobs on the line?
It will get worse. Routes and jobs on the line?
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From Irish Indo today....
Debt row won't hold up new showpiece terminal
THE bitter row over Cork Airport's €160m debt will not affect the scheduled May opening of its high-tech new terminal.
The Dublin and Cork Airport Authorities are now locked in a bitter stand-off over the division of the debt generated by the construction of the new 28,000 square metre terminal.
The DAA wants the debt halved between themselves and Cork. However, the Cork board has reacted furiously pointing out that former Transport Minister Seamus Brennan vowed that when Shannon and Cork broke away from Aer Rianta for independent operations they would do so debt-free.
Now, Transport Minister Martin Cullen wants the dispute to go to arbitration with independent consultants, amid fears that Cork will be asked to shoulder up to €80m of the cost.
Politicians and business leaders fear that such a large debt will dramatically restrict the airport's marketing and operating budgets.
Confirmed that new terminal will open on May 10
But the Cork authority has confirmed that, following a meeting with its operators committee, it was agreed to open the terminal on May 10 irrespective of the debt issue.
Then all facilities will close at the existing terminal with the exception of some administrative offices.
The new terminal will have double the capacity of the existing terminal which, while designed for one million passengers per annum, has been handling almost three times that number.
The new terminal - which will be the single largest enclosed space in Munster.
New roads
There will be a 600 space multi-storey carpark, underground access tunnel, new airport stands, a single air-bridge and a new internal road system.
While designed for an annual throughput of three million passengers, the new terminal is specially designed to be expanded to cater for up to five million passengers. Ryanair is understood to be interested in assuming control of the old terminal for its own dedicated operations.
Debt row won't hold up new showpiece terminal
THE bitter row over Cork Airport's €160m debt will not affect the scheduled May opening of its high-tech new terminal.
The Dublin and Cork Airport Authorities are now locked in a bitter stand-off over the division of the debt generated by the construction of the new 28,000 square metre terminal.
The DAA wants the debt halved between themselves and Cork. However, the Cork board has reacted furiously pointing out that former Transport Minister Seamus Brennan vowed that when Shannon and Cork broke away from Aer Rianta for independent operations they would do so debt-free.
Now, Transport Minister Martin Cullen wants the dispute to go to arbitration with independent consultants, amid fears that Cork will be asked to shoulder up to €80m of the cost.
Politicians and business leaders fear that such a large debt will dramatically restrict the airport's marketing and operating budgets.
Confirmed that new terminal will open on May 10
But the Cork authority has confirmed that, following a meeting with its operators committee, it was agreed to open the terminal on May 10 irrespective of the debt issue.
Then all facilities will close at the existing terminal with the exception of some administrative offices.
The new terminal will have double the capacity of the existing terminal which, while designed for one million passengers per annum, has been handling almost three times that number.
The new terminal - which will be the single largest enclosed space in Munster.
New roads
There will be a 600 space multi-storey carpark, underground access tunnel, new airport stands, a single air-bridge and a new internal road system.
While designed for an annual throughput of three million passengers, the new terminal is specially designed to be expanded to cater for up to five million passengers. Ryanair is understood to be interested in assuming control of the old terminal for its own dedicated operations.
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well well well...... so the daa want to share the cost of the new terminal.. what a load of bol°*x.... ... if this is the case then the sharing should be done between cork dublin AND SHANNON after all we ve been funding shannon for many a year... ill say it again.. the polititions will be like flys around shi@e come may.... it just sickens me at the thought of it all.. i urge every one to contact Cullen urgently.... it will take a few minutes thats all.. no need to be long winded just ask are we going to be sadled with the debt of the building of the terminal... yes or no.... get on to the ff web site now please please.......
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Originally Posted by EI-MICK
does he have an email address or is a letter the better choice????
you have to go on to the ff web site and on left of page you can look up the various ministers and there is a section where you can contact the individual.. no access to the actual address.. its just a formatted page that you fill in the blanks as it were.
i sent him a mail earlier so i shoud expect a reply next year????
also on the ff page is a latest news column on the right hand side, it scrolls through various snipets of latest news. there is a thing on it about one of the local tds speaking up for cork .. name escapes me now but he is on some airport comittee.. at least some one is on our side eh....
get the message accross.. weight in numbers is the way to go i think...
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If the Cork Board go for the soft option i.e increase charges it will almost certainly provoke a negative response from EZY and Ryanair, that in itself will be enough to send the traffic on a downward spiral.
I also notice that Aer Arann's Birmingham Cork service is unbookable from late March.
I also notice that Aer Arann's Birmingham Cork service is unbookable from late March.
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Well, with a genius like John Dennehy from Fianna Fail leading the charge from the Cork TDs you can just tell that Cork Airport is in line for a good shafting. Also, the king of Cork Airport, Noel O'Flynn is gone awfully quiet on the airport - he is not boasting about his part in the achievements of Cork Airport now. Looks like Cork will be bled once more to save not only snn as is usual but now Dublin too.
Yes, there is something going on with RE and BHX. EI are not to start BHX until last few days of June. Are RE blinking all ready and if so, why?
Yes, there is something going on with RE and BHX. EI are not to start BHX until last few days of June. Are RE blinking all ready and if so, why?
Let me get this straight, you guys in Cork are suprised that a terminal that is overbudget,late,inadaquate (as in the fact that even the Cork airport authority dont even have space for an office for themselves in it)and only has 4 stands is not going to be paid for by Dublin Airport Authority by raising charges when they have infrastructre costing 1 billion euro to pay for.It would have been quite a stroke if you managed to get away with it but you actually believed the polititians when you knew in your heart that it was too good to be true.So if you even get away with paying for half of it its still quite a coup, 80 million euro is not that much for a vital piece of infrastructre these days.Perhaps if you knew you would be paying for it you would have done a better job.
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Why should Cork have to take on the cost of the new terminal? When he was Minister for Transport, Seamus Brennan said that Cork should be debt free when the Aer Rianta airports were broken up. A Fianna Fail government should honour this committment. Snn have had their terminal buildings refurbished to a magnificently high standard over the last few years with accompanying road improvements etc and that airport has not been solely saddled with the costs. If anything, due to the high diversion rate Cork people have forked a significant amount of revenue to the coffers at snn.
And now there is the gall that the shower at snn want new airbridges too whillst the new Cork terminal is the joke airport of Europe if not the western world with it's one poxy airbridge!
And now there is the gall that the shower at snn want new airbridges too whillst the new Cork terminal is the joke airport of Europe if not the western world with it's one poxy airbridge!
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Snn want new air bridges?? for who ? Its not like ryan air utilise them in any event. Who else uses snn bar EI on its few trans atlantic and ryan air and the few other flights in and out of there. That's bizarre, let see how cork fairs out if it will be debt free. Strenght in numbers I agree with eastjimmy 100 %.
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The Terminal was never going to be a gracious gift from the DAA. Seamus Brennan annonced that CAA &SAA would be debt free, which is fair enongh... but that effectively means that the DAA still own the terminal and the CAA would be expected to pay an exorbadent rent on it... this would be money down the pan... straight into the DAAs coffers. However by forking over the €80 million CAA will actually own at least half of it and have secure assets borrow against in the future. As far as I know the SAA dosent actually own the terminal at SNN and leases it from Aer Rianta.
More to the point though is the severe lack of space at ORK at the moment. The place is very cramped and more stands are needed urgently. I feel that the CAA has been very distracted by the whole terminal/debt issue and has lost the ploy somewhat withe regards to new routes/airline bases, etc...
P.S. Does anyone know anything about the CSA A321 operating to Verona today, is this a regular charter thing, or just a once off?
Cheers
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More to the point though is the severe lack of space at ORK at the moment. The place is very cramped and more stands are needed urgently. I feel that the CAA has been very distracted by the whole terminal/debt issue and has lost the ploy somewhat withe regards to new routes/airline bases, etc...
P.S. Does anyone know anything about the CSA A321 operating to Verona today, is this a regular charter thing, or just a once off?
Cheers
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New Routes at Cork
I agree with Brian about the lack of new routes. In 2004/5 Malev, Aerlingus, BMI Baby, Easyjet, Ryanair and Aer Arann either increased frequency and service or introduced new routes. In recent months BMI have withdrawn from East Midlands and reduced frequency on Manchester.
BA have withdrawn from ORK-MAN and Aer Arann have stopped selling seats on ORK BHX from late March.
The present 30% increase in traffic will not last unless new business is secured quickly. The board should remember that the days of hiking up charges at every turn have long since gone at airports that want growth.
Let's wish Mr.Cullinane well. John Smyth is a hard act to follow.
BA have withdrawn from ORK-MAN and Aer Arann have stopped selling seats on ORK BHX from late March.
The present 30% increase in traffic will not last unless new business is secured quickly. The board should remember that the days of hiking up charges at every turn have long since gone at airports that want growth.
Let's wish Mr.Cullinane well. John Smyth is a hard act to follow.
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The sad thing is that it will be far easier for Cork to increase charges for the likes of Ryanair, easyJet etc than it will be to lay off workers. A short term solution, of course. When Ryanair cut back and if EZY quit as a result it will be down then to the nuclear button of getting rid of the dead wood. By then it will be too late for Cork Airport.
New routes! Little chance, alas. Cork will be hauntingly lucky to keep the business she has.
New routes! Little chance, alas. Cork will be hauntingly lucky to keep the business she has.