Ryanair Cancelling flights!

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From: Still looking
Is it not quite late to be putting on roadshows if these recruits are meant to be for next summer? (Assuming summer)
MOL said only this week they had a couple of thousand waiting to join. Why bother with the roadshow then?
MOL said only this week they had a couple of thousand waiting to join. Why bother with the roadshow then?
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From: Next door but one
"Industry leading?" "World class?" My Ar$e !!!
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They have been leading it to the gutter the last 20 years?
It is an interesting observation of the modern corporation, whether finance, insurance or aviation, businesses are infested with the refuse of our economic system; HR.
Those aspiring individuals seeking to climb above the other jetsam do their MBA as a badge of entry to the utterly dysfunctional and disconnected corporate hierarchy.
Those dutiful accountants with little to no operational knowledge 'drive business' and are focused intently on telling business what happened yesterday as a business hurtles headlong to a collision tomorrow...
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From: last time I looked I was still here.
The only none rated bases being offered from their website are Wroclaw, Katowice & Poznan
Could this be connected to Ryanair Sun that is starting up in Poland. There's been no talk about this, but I saw an advert.
Could this be connected to Ryanair Sun that is starting up in Poland. There's been no talk about this, but I saw an advert.

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Not sure what airline you joined, NP, but I don't know anybody who regretted leaving Ryanair. Some people miss certain elements, but none would ever return. Horses for courses of course, but the grass certainly can be greener, you just need to pick the right field.
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From: Never home
To be honest, I don’t understand the fuss about the 5/4 roster. I think a random roster is equally good or maybe even better when you get to bid for your preferred days off. In the end it’s the amount of days off/month that makes a difference. If your doing 6/2, you’ve signed a !!!!ty contract with not enough days off per month.
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Left some time ago. Miss very little about it. Speaking to former colleagues who are still there reaffirms why I don’t. And the 5/4 roster is only of any true value if you are based where you want to be.
The jumpseating, waiting around airports for connecting commutes for hours on end, the non existent leave & base transfer system when I was there. Truly unrivalled.
The jumpseating, waiting around airports for connecting commutes for hours on end, the non existent leave & base transfer system when I was there. Truly unrivalled.
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In the end it’s the amount of days off/month that makes a difference.
It is also the particular days off. 10-12 days off when they are not the correct ones is not a lot of use. When you hear stories of guys on fixed rosters not being able to get the odd day off for something of family importance then it might not be the best place to work.
It is also the particular days off. 10-12 days off when they are not the correct ones is not a lot of use. When you hear stories of guys on fixed rosters not being able to get the odd day off for something of family importance then it might not be the best place to work.
Last edited by RAT 5; 4th November 2017 at 08:37.

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Ryanair pilots say rest days treated as annual leave
I wonder if this is wholly accurate.........
https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1103/917332-ryanair/
It could be kosher if 1 months notice in advance is given......
Organisation of Working Time Act, 1997, Section 20
https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1103/917332-ryanair/
It could be kosher if 1 months notice in advance is given......
Organisation of Working Time Act, 1997, Section 20
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Left some time ago as well and don't miss it. Too many issues, some worse than others like taxes and smaller ones but that get you a bit upset at times reading memos that make you think they are working for some kind of corporate version of Northkorea with propaganda and spin etc.
Last edited by RobsonCanolo; 4th November 2017 at 04:49.

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I wonder if this is wholly accurate.........
https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1103/917332-ryanair/
It could be kosher if 1 months notice in advance is given......
Organisation of Working Time Act, 1997, Section 20
https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1103/917332-ryanair/
It could be kosher if 1 months notice in advance is given......
Organisation of Working Time Act, 1997, Section 20

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That's damage control and to prevent further embarrasment. The communications department now answers on his behalf that they don't respond to 'rumours or speculation', 'lies spread by competing companies and trade unions' and so on.
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Organisation of Working Time Act, 1997, Section 20
This link mentions holiday pay. We are told that the 'contractors' are forced to take a month off, unpaid, and often not of their choosing. Given that an employee is entitled to a months holiday pay based upon an average of a month's income, I would have thought this would be sufficient incentive for contractors to establish once 7 for all their true status. Not to mention all the other worker's right, including sick day.
This link mentions holiday pay. We are told that the 'contractors' are forced to take a month off, unpaid, and often not of their choosing. Given that an employee is entitled to a months holiday pay based upon an average of a month's income, I would have thought this would be sufficient incentive for contractors to establish once 7 for all their true status. Not to mention all the other worker's right, including sick day.

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Chatting to a few FR guys has confirmed that leave is being allocated to their standard rest days without any notice, request or explanation. The view seems to be that they can now claim all leave was allocated. If they give the guys days off the roster cannot be covered. The question is whether those allocated December as their month off start seeing that leave unilaterally re-assigned to November and find Dec holiday plans up in smoke.... sounds like it’s “always getting better”. The mind boggles, pilots are leaving because they’re not happy, so they give them further reason to be upset. Perhaps Ryanair’s calculation is it’s better to shaft your staff and face the consequences later than publicly face up to more un-crewed flights?



