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Old 2nd November 2017 | 21:23
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Is it not quite late to be putting on roadshows if these recruits are meant to be for next summer? (Assuming summer)

MOL said only this week they had a couple of thousand waiting to join. Why bother with the roadshow then?
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Old 3rd November 2017 | 03:50
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737/Non-Type Rated Pilot Roadshow -

Industry-leading, fixed, stable 5/4 roster with minimal overnights.

NEW MANAGEMENT AND NEW OUTLOOK

The only none rated bases being offered from their website are Wroclaw, Katowice & Poznan

"Industry leading?" "World class?" My Ar$e !!!
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Old 3rd November 2017 | 06:09
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Well I wouldn't argue they are "industry leading."
They have been leading it to the gutter the last 20 years?
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Old 3rd November 2017 | 08:16
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They have been leading it to the gutter the last 20 years?
To aspire to be like them one needs a snorkel...

It is an interesting observation of the modern corporation, whether finance, insurance or aviation, businesses are infested with the refuse of our economic system; HR.

Those aspiring individuals seeking to climb above the other jetsam do their MBA as a badge of entry to the utterly dysfunctional and disconnected corporate hierarchy.

Those dutiful accountants with little to no operational knowledge 'drive business' and are focused intently on telling business what happened yesterday as a business hurtles headlong to a collision tomorrow...
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Old 3rd November 2017 | 08:44
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The only none rated bases being offered from their website are Wroclaw, Katowice & Poznan

Could this be connected to Ryanair Sun that is starting up in Poland. There's been no talk about this, but I saw an advert.
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Old 3rd November 2017 | 10:22
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Latest info I heard, Ryanair have only recruited 10-15 pilots in total from AB and Monarch.
Anyone with more detailed info?
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Old 3rd November 2017 | 10:53
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I know of 5 from Monarch - all type rated
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Old 3rd November 2017 | 12:08
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Ryanair is probably the temporary plan B, as soon as they find better they will be gone.
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Old 3rd November 2017 | 12:47
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"Stable 5/4 roster"

Which will be the first to go when they realise they don't have enough crew to fly the Summer schedule. Already in the pipeline according to some.
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Old 3rd November 2017 | 18:26
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Not sure what airline you joined, NP, but I don't know anybody who regretted leaving Ryanair. Some people miss certain elements, but none would ever return. Horses for courses of course, but the grass certainly can be greener, you just need to pick the right field.
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Old 3rd November 2017 | 20:17
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To be honest, I don’t understand the fuss about the 5/4 roster. I think a random roster is equally good or maybe even better when you get to bid for your preferred days off. In the end it’s the amount of days off/month that makes a difference. If your doing 6/2, you’ve signed a !!!!ty contract with not enough days off per month.
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Old 3rd November 2017 | 22:43
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Left some time ago. Miss very little about it. Speaking to former colleagues who are still there reaffirms why I don’t. And the 5/4 roster is only of any true value if you are based where you want to be.

The jumpseating, waiting around airports for connecting commutes for hours on end, the non existent leave & base transfer system when I was there. Truly unrivalled.
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Old 3rd November 2017 | 22:55
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In the end it’s the amount of days off/month that makes a difference.

It is also the particular days off. 10-12 days off when they are not the correct ones is not a lot of use. When you hear stories of guys on fixed rosters not being able to get the odd day off for something of family importance then it might not be the best place to work.

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Old 3rd November 2017 | 23:00
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Ryanair pilots say rest days treated as annual leave

I wonder if this is wholly accurate.........

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1103/917332-ryanair/

It could be kosher if 1 months notice in advance is given......

Organisation of Working Time Act, 1997, Section 20
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Old 4th November 2017 | 04:39
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Left some time ago as well and don't miss it. Too many issues, some worse than others like taxes and smaller ones but that get you a bit upset at times reading memos that make you think they are working for some kind of corporate version of Northkorea with propaganda and spin etc.

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Old 4th November 2017 | 13:32
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Originally Posted by Maxfli
I wonder if this is wholly accurate.........

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1103/917332-ryanair/

It could be kosher if 1 months notice in advance is given......

Organisation of Working Time Act, 1997, Section 20
Is all true sadly,except Ryanairs dismissal of the facts...
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Old 4th November 2017 | 13:57
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What’s happened to MOL ? Gone very quite . Thought he had it covered ?
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Old 4th November 2017 | 14:21
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That's damage control and to prevent further embarrasment. The communications department now answers on his behalf that they don't respond to 'rumours or speculation', 'lies spread by competing companies and trade unions' and so on.
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Old 4th November 2017 | 15:28
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Organisation of Working Time Act, 1997, Section 20

This link mentions holiday pay. We are told that the 'contractors' are forced to take a month off, unpaid, and often not of their choosing. Given that an employee is entitled to a months holiday pay based upon an average of a month's income, I would have thought this would be sufficient incentive for contractors to establish once 7 for all their true status. Not to mention all the other worker's right, including sick day.
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Old 4th November 2017 | 15:35
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Chatting to a few FR guys has confirmed that leave is being allocated to their standard rest days without any notice, request or explanation. The view seems to be that they can now claim all leave was allocated. If they give the guys days off the roster cannot be covered. The question is whether those allocated December as their month off start seeing that leave unilaterally re-assigned to November and find Dec holiday plans up in smoke.... sounds like it’s “always getting better”. The mind boggles, pilots are leaving because they’re not happy, so they give them further reason to be upset. Perhaps Ryanair’s calculation is it’s better to shaft your staff and face the consequences later than publicly face up to more un-crewed flights?
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