Ryanair Cancelling flights!
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Yeah lot's of smoke and mirrors thinking about the Bloomberg piece there earlier, what is the net additions or draw when it comes to total numbers also that's more relevant but missing ? Again hope people see through things for what they really are, chasing a one time pay increase considering the ERC then historically have not been able to deliver anything except legality issues in Germany and the UK for individuals, a ten year payfreeze and then perhaps not actively but at least passively ensured the irish accountant scheme with kickbacks for others. So there is a need to change track and there is opportunity for it now.
Big cred to Imelda Comer !
Big cred to Imelda Comer !
Last edited by RobsonCanolo; 30th October 2017 at 05:38.
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It's okay saying that it's fake news, but that's the kind of article that's being read by Joe Public.........and they probably believe it! So we (as a pilot body) end up once again being the bad guys for turning down £150k a year!
How they can say they're engaging with their pilots but yet continue to release anti-pilot spin like that to the media is beyond me!
How they can say they're engaging with their pilots but yet continue to release anti-pilot spin like that to the media is beyond me!
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From: last time I looked I was still here.
If RYR management can chat to a reporter and get them to publish their clap-trap, why can't pilots chat to a reporter and get them to publish the pilots' side of the story. Waste of time sitting back and whinging that the truth is being swamped by fake news and not responding. This nonsense from Bloomberg, and shame on them, for reporting that pilots want a rise from €64,000 to €150,000. That s just too sensational for sensible comment and so utterly incompetent & incendiary for them to have printed it without fact checking. The public are being led to believe that their precious £9.99 tickets will soar if the greedy pilots get their way. Come on guys, fight back. It has been the way for decades that pilots' PR has been 2nd division compared to management lobbying. Get the truth out there or forever wallow in the poo.
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If RYR management can chat to a reporter and get them to publish their clap-trap, why can't pilots chat to a reporter and get them to publish the pilots' side of the story.
No charges were ever laid, the story passed over in the print media as a mere 'small discussion'. The editor was afforded first class travel as 'guests' of the said airline.
Unfortunately until pilots can provide such 'coincidental upside' there is little prospect of the 'other side' ever being told..
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Could be interesting to watch....
KEYC - SHAREHOLDER ALERT: Pomerantz Law Firm Investigates Claims On Beh
KEYC - SHAREHOLDER ALERT: Pomerantz Law Firm Investigates Claims On Beh
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From: North
Well, at least Ryanair solved other airlines crewing shortage by being a complete ******** towards every single employee in the company.
And the award of the “Best crew supplier of the year” goes to..
Jokes aside; All the best for the current guys/girls in there and hope the EERC will manage to succeed.
And the award of the “Best crew supplier of the year” goes to..
Jokes aside; All the best for the current guys/girls in there and hope the EERC will manage to succeed.
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Ryanair pilots want to negotiate through EERC
https://www.rte.ie/amp/916338/
....Up to now, Ryanair has insisted on negotiating only with Employee Representative Councils (ERCs) at its 87 individual bases - and has refused to negotiate either with external unions or the pilots' new EERC.
However following a meeting last Thursday, pilots based at Dublin, Cork and Shannon agreed that issues of concern to them needed to be addressed through a collective discussion across bases rather than through individual base ERCs.
In a letter to Chief Executive Michael O'Leary, they state: "For that reason we have been instructed and mandated by pilots in our three bases to direct all further communication on offers from the company through the pilots' European Employee Representative Council."
The letter states that the pilot body is currently preparing a "conditions and pay proposal" which will be sent to the company once completed.
It concludes by saying that the joint EERC will be the "sole and exclusive body" through which their negotiations on their future conditions and pay should be negotiated....
However following a meeting last Thursday, pilots based at Dublin, Cork and Shannon agreed that issues of concern to them needed to be addressed through a collective discussion across bases rather than through individual base ERCs.
In a letter to Chief Executive Michael O'Leary, they state: "For that reason we have been instructed and mandated by pilots in our three bases to direct all further communication on offers from the company through the pilots' European Employee Representative Council."
The letter states that the pilot body is currently preparing a "conditions and pay proposal" which will be sent to the company once completed.
It concludes by saying that the joint EERC will be the "sole and exclusive body" through which their negotiations on their future conditions and pay should be negotiated....
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Bottom feeding lawyers......
Maybe you regard all firms in the top Legal 500 as bottom feeders.
This will be interesting to follow and particularly interesting if they establish what was known (and by whom) prior to someone selling shares during the summer.
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From: Sunny Bay
Annual results due out shortly. Probably insiders buying on leaked numbers being good enough.
Maybe even a big Dividend in the pipeline, to pacify disgruntled shareholders.
Maybe even a big Dividend in the pipeline, to pacify disgruntled shareholders.
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From: KERAV Hold
None the less, 97% is an exceptionally high pass rate for command courses, unheard of in most other airlines I’d imagine. Points to either a well managed, well run training department, or a more lax standard when it comes to being promoted to command.