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Old 23rd Oct 2017, 10:13
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This thread isn't an online ego contest or for working out who is the bestestest pilot..

Indeed: this thread is supposed to be about RYR cancelling flights.
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Old 23rd Oct 2017, 10:45
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Chesty....We all agree that you are probably the best pilot that ever lived, that women want to be with you and men want to be you!!

Now lets get this thread back on topic.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...e-rejects-deal
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Old 23rd Oct 2017, 11:34
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Exactly, can we get this thread back on track? Why do certain pilots feel the propensity to willy wave at every opportunity?

Important times at FR. STN & MAD bases reject their ‘deal,’ the flow towards the exit door doesn’t seem to be abating and Bellew returning as the White Knight. I hope the pilots hold firm. They deserve a positive outcome
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Old 23rd Oct 2017, 17:21
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Not a word in the piece from Bloomberg there earlier about the 6 lawfirms in the US that have started investigations against Ryanair due to the cancellations. Agree as well that i really hope a positive outcome for all pilots despite the spin there from Bloomberg calling the council rouge among other things...
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Old 23rd Oct 2017, 17:36
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Bloomberg quoting an analyst. What the analyst forgets is that they describe almost the entire pilot workforce who just want some modicum of fairness out of their employer as “rogues”....
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Old 23rd Oct 2017, 17:46
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TangoAlphad You can get Ryanair stock on the Nasdaq so i wouldn't be surprised if it's possible and also the lawfirms should know.

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Old 23rd Oct 2017, 19:42
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Originally Posted by Bayerische View Post
Chesty....We all agree that you are probably the best pilot that ever lived, that women want to be with you and men want to be you!!

Now lets get this thread back on topic.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...e-rejects-deal
Well, you're right on one count.
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Old 23rd Oct 2017, 23:37
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan View Post
Well, you're right on one count.
Men want to be in your pants then?

Mate, u have more than one problem.
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 06:56
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Was that an option?
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 10:03
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As someone in the job market at the moment a recurring theme from employers I have come into contact with is how many Ryanair pilots they have applying. Both Jet 2 and Easyjet have 100's on the books. Jet 2 in particular with an oven ready hold pool of them. Assume it is the same right the way across Europe. My guess is that MOL will be parking quite a few aircraft next summer. This is going to take some sorting out on his part.
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 10:25
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Since this all broke into the public domain what have the number of leavers been like , is it still a steady abandon ship ?
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 10:51
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Since this all broke into the public domain what have the number of leavers been like , is it still a steady abandon ship ?
I think it has accelerated both as a result of typical winter hiring and the situation hardening people's desire to move
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 11:03
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If other airlines Jet2, Easyjet etc are smart. They should hire almost exclusively pilots from Ryanair.

They can't beat O'Leary on price but they can take a very valuable commodity off him, his experienced pilots. They need to go for the jugular now that a weak spot has been exposed.

He will be forced to improve the T's and C's of his own pilots to stop the exodus. This can only be good for everyone in the industry. A rising tide lifts all boats.
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 12:14
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Well Ryanair's T and C's are very low compared to others...and I have been comparing!. They put a headline figure up but it has more strings attached that my vest! He has some way to go to match what the others are offering. Probably yet again explains why large numbers are still leaving or looking to leave. Ryanair will have to go some way to exceed what the others have on the table....

The much vaunted myth that Ryanair is well paid has been clearly exposed.
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 12:51
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Rising terms and conditions would also potentially cause Easy and Jet2 to raise the bar costing them more money..

What about the amount of costs saved by RYR through 'interesting' constructions. If they had to play on the same pitch as the competitors, even with lower direct T's & C's, their costs would rise to the norm. The competitors wouldn't have to do anything.
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 13:02
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I've been out of the loop for a few years as I embarked on a University degree after completing my PPL when the market was pretty bad for pilots. I'll be graduating later next year and will most likely begin ATPL training.

With airlines like Ryanair getting called out on the bad T&Cs, do you reckon (if you HAD to predict, I know it can all change overnight) that the market would be much better in say 2-3 years time?
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 13:26
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nope , market will just keep getting worse ,
as long as people keep accepting T&Cs then the race to the bottom will continue
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 14:29
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Jaair - As Snapper5 points out, Ts & Cs will continue to get worse, there's always a whole raft of Muppets who are willing to sell themselves down the river to get a (or perhaps their first) flying job, that won't change.

Take that degree of yours and go and get a proper job and fly for pleasure.
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 15:42
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Take that degree of yours and go and get a proper job and fly for pleasure.
I second that!
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 16:24
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It's a great shame/tragedy that there is even a minutiae of truth in this; not universal, but wide-spread enough.
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