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Old 8th Nov 2017, 21:53
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I was sat on the apron at Faro mid-morning today idly chatting with the handling agent about the 5 Ryanair 737s parked on the line. She told me that their whole morning 'shift' had been binned a few days back and an airport that used to have 30 Ryanair movements a day was now handling 11. It was certainly unusual seeing 5 aircraft with doors closed and nothing going on.
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Old 9th Nov 2017, 11:13
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Saw four parked up going nowhere in Tenerife on Tuesday lunchtime too. Winter is peak season for the Canary Islands from most of Europe, provided you have the pilots to operate them of course.
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Old 9th Nov 2017, 11:20
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t FR park planes up in the winter in places where parking is cheaper? Could this not be another reason why you are seeing planes at those places?

Not an FR pilot, so I am speculating.
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Old 9th Nov 2017, 13:53
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Six this morning. They appear to have binned the entire morning schedule, kicking off about lunchtime.
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Old 10th Nov 2017, 09:45
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Parking planes in winter in FAO and TFS is standard practice. I was in both places several times over the last few winters and they've always parked a few there. They rotate them through those places as they are cheaper to park them there than elsewhere.
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Old 10th Nov 2017, 09:54
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From personal experience, last year there were no airplanes parked in TFS whatsoever. On the contrary, extra planes were brought in to cover the extra flights for the winter.
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Old 10th Nov 2017, 12:26
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Ok - fair enough but two winters ago I was there for a couple of weeks out of base and there were at least two sitting towards the westerly end of the apron unused. I know because we ended up using one after going tech.

Faro has in the past had at least 4 parked up on the easterly side of the apron.
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Old 12th Nov 2017, 07:33
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This isn't 'parked-up' aircraft. These aircraft are flying, after lunchtime. Call me a bluff-old-traditionalist, but giving an airframe maybe two sectors a day doesn't make (Ryanair) economic sense.
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Old 12th Nov 2017, 09:05
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The Real Story Behind The Ryanair Cancellations - People Before Profit
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Old 15th Nov 2017, 15:01
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IAA is rotten and in bed with Ryanair. No wonder so many airlines want to have an Irish AOC... There should be consequences!
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Old 15th Nov 2017, 17:05
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not surprising.
Hope Europe will punish this country.
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Old 16th Nov 2017, 00:14
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Well, well...... not short of pilots. Why did I just speak to an FR pilot today who had an email from his agency asking if he’d like to give up his month off next year. Upon enquiry as to the details of such offer he was told that no it wasn’t a reallocation of the leave.... it was giving it up! So it seems FR are already asking pilots to forgo some of their leave next year.
They must be truly stuffed or perhaps this is just another benefit dressed up as offering flexibility .
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Old 16th Nov 2017, 07:06
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Giving up your month off is surely illegal, if you done this you'd be left with 10days annual leave for the year! Way below the 28days legal requirement.
It's a shame as I'm sure a select few will actually do this.....
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Old 16th Nov 2017, 10:36
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Ryan Air back in the news, New York Times piece,

Jet Pilot Might Not Seem Like a ‘Gig,’ but at Ryanair, It Is

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Old 18th Nov 2017, 21:33
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I have no sight of actual numbers but it just seen a screenshot that claims FR have in fact grounded 85 ac and are short significant numbers to cover the upcoming season. Perhaps the reason they’re reportedly already asking folk to give up leave next year?
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Old 20th Nov 2017, 12:26
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Up to six months delay now between LST and start of LT for the cadet, appears to be lengthening more and more. Poor folks !
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Old 20th Nov 2017, 13:24
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The second the news kicked off with the 'are/aren't they' short of pilots then they kicked into full swing throwing guys through the base training. Over 100 in under 2 weeks! Bear in mind these guys were already waiting for a long time, unpaid and demoralised. But Ryanair don't care - until there is a publicity opportunity to get photographed at a wings ceremony.

The inevitable has happened and now the cadets are delayed at a different stage of training (wait, where are all the LTCs), still unpaid and unloved. But their picture is already on Twitter so nobody is in a rush to sort it out.

Apparently October was a Ryanair record for pilot resignations...
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 09:01
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I hear some different stories though, I know a guy who started ground school last january, he has finished line training a while ago already. Also heard about a guy(indirect, so can't confirm its true) who finished TR beginning of this month and also had base training this week.

I hope this is true as I will start my TR next week haha
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 09:57
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RYR pilots from Swedish bases have organised themselves under the umbrella of the Swedish Pilots Union.
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 10:26
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Pilots & cabin crew need to find out who to whistleblow to within EASA and the UK CAA who actually have a pair of balls and use them!
Pilots are under the delusion the aviation regulatory authorities will act in an employment dispute - they will not. Within Europe there may be Excepted Airlines with Special Arrangements. Stop wasting time believing the regulators will be your savior.

The way forward is to join a union and obtain a legal ruling on the employment relationship. Study this International Labour Organization publication and associated conventions (to which most of Europe are signatories):


If I am based outside of Ireland, I don’t give a rat’s ass what the Supreme Court of Ireland ruled or didn’t rule. Wise up.
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