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Joining Ryanair

Old 15th Nov 2017, 11:36
  #201 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 60
The RYR contract expires at age 60. After that you can ask to continue working. The contract is then renewed on an annual basis up to age 65, or until you decide
to stop working before that age.
You can't fly a two crew aircraft with both pilots over age 60, and once over 65 you can't fly a commercial flight with passengers down the back, although you can operate ferry flights.
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Old 20th Dec 2017, 20:47
  #202 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Bratislava
Age: 28
Posts: 8
Dear colleagues,

I would like to say thank you for your answers!

I try to make overall view about the real situation in ryr and thanks to you it is possible. As I told I can totally understand that every man has different opinion, different personal, family and life situation, so maybe not all of pilots wants same conditions and lifestyle.
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 08:27
  #203 (permalink)  
VJW
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 779
Foss - would you let me know when you’re calculating your 700 hours from. Would you kindly let me know if you can, how many you’ve done from both Jan 2017 until Dec 2017 (full calendar year) and separately Mar 2017 until Dec 2017 inclusive.

Cheers
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 08:29
  #204 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: buenos aires
Posts: 22
Was a long time at FR. The fatigue thing was handled in the most idiotic fashion I've ever seen. They actually quoted some nasa scientist and told us how we couldn't be tired at all and then they went into stupid mega mode. They actually produced OFDM data showing the level of events per sector company wide during 4 sector early shifts. It showed a remarkable spike in sector 3. The voiceover clown then actually says 'this shows that there is no fatigue issue'. My first observation was the exact opposite, this clearly showed there was as that's exactly when you start getting tired on a four sector day. I believe nasa found out about this and told them to wind their necks in..

Also that guy above is absolutely spot on, I was treated like absolute and they constantly underpaid me. I had a real idiot base capt too which made things worse. I would say anyone who joins Ryanair now is mad.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 12:49
  #205 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: I wish I knew
Posts: 250
Hi, I've been in Asia and ME flying narrowbodies, now flying in Europe with no overnight flying, do you have and idea of fatigue levels flying narrowbodies in Asia and the Middle East with up to 3 consecutive nights in a 6-7 day period? I'm not saying fatigue is not an issue in FR but please I totally disagree with your statement. Regulators around the world should change this, airlines are just taking advantage of what regulators allow them to do. Our fight should not be with our employers but regulators instead.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 23:12
  #206 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: USA
Age: 41
Posts: 25
Dear maggot738, many thanks for the explanation. May you shed some light for OCC course for rated joining captains. I have a joining date on the 8th of January and I was surprised that I have to pay for my accommodation at EMA, uniforms and transportation etc...
is this the normal style here?
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 23:37
  #207 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: USA
Age: 41
Posts: 25
Originally Posted by username taken View Post
Well, I joined as a DEC. Wish I had never entertained the idea in the first place. I agree with earlier posts, the training is not good at all. The trainers that I have experienced do not know the Boeing manuals, but are experts in Ryanair SOPs etc. In fact, Ryanair training guides apparently take precedence over the QRH. Most DECs that I joined with have either left, leaving or applying for other jobs..... all within 12 months of starting.... the proof is in the pudding as they say.
So shall I turn the other way and run? I was bombarded with emails and applications that I have to fill today in order to join in 2 weeks. I started stressing even before joining. daaamn
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 23:39
  #208 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: USA
Age: 41
Posts: 25
I am really disappointed as I thought that I landed a table and secure job, finally. It seems am going to return to doing summer contracts... [email protected]$
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Old 23rd Dec 2017, 01:05
  #209 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: buenos aires
Posts: 22
Anyone joining Ryanair also needs to consider that they are joining a company where they actually have a position called ‘chief people officer’ (and think that’s normal) and in that position a person whom I would say would be as far removed from that title as it could possibly get. As long as that individual is even in the company you’d be mad to join or stay. I see he’s changing spots quick style in the media yesterday, which is true to form as he’s no doubt aware that there’s regime change in the air...
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Old 23rd Dec 2017, 07:28
  #210 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: France
Posts: 366
FR is short of pilots, and will do anything to get them - hence your being bombarded with emails and application forms - especially if they are 'qualified' to FR requirements so they don't have to spend money on conversion courses or getting you to toe the company line.

Summer contracts might be heaven in comparison to the 'esprit de corps' (or lack of it) currently in FR.
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Old 23rd Dec 2017, 12:47
  #211 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 392
feeso...are you for real?

Are you not getting the signing on bonus for being type rated?
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Old 23rd Dec 2017, 17:36
  #212 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: The EU
Posts: 234
Anybody still considering joining this outfit should have their medical revoked as they're clearly not mentally secure. How much negative coverage do they need before people realise that Ryanair is not a good place to work, desperate or otherwise. I'd sooner be unemployed than return to these vile bottom feeders.

Just my opinion of course.
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Old 23rd Dec 2017, 17:45
  #213 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: USA
Age: 41
Posts: 25
RHINO... THEY SAID IT SHOULD COME WITH THE 1ST MONTHS SALARY... do you have any good news to shed about the fear we have been talking about?
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Old 23rd Dec 2017, 17:50
  #214 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: USA
Age: 41
Posts: 25
I thought the bonus is for me to enjoy and not to spend on accommodation while training for them... Am I right? does anyone know how much a Captain NETS monthly if a STN base? please so answers .. according to my calculation, it is between 5500 and 6000 Euros...thank you in advance
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Old 23rd Dec 2017, 21:10
  #215 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: LHS 737-800
Posts: 50
£119k for Captains assuming you do 700 hours. However you will do more than that.

Just under £6k net roughly.
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Old 24th Dec 2017, 15:13
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: six micro tesla zone
Age: 28
Posts: 393
The net was £5500-£6000 before the cancellation crisis. Surely this should be higher now with the new pay offers?
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Old 24th Dec 2017, 15:49
  #217 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Uk
Posts: 8
“Anybody still considering joining this outfit should have their medical revoked as they're clearly not mentally secure.”


How very harsh.........I have recently been made redundant after over 19 years service with Spotty M, and as far as I can see the only outfit offering jobs at my current base are RYR. I have a family, kids at my local school, yes I could have tried to follow some of my ex colleagues to Heathrow, Keflavik, Budapest, Gatwick, Vietnam, Doha, etc, etc.

But called me old fashioned, I quite enjoy seeing my kids grow up, so I elected to stay at my home base, instead of opting to commute to southern England or further afield.

There are several of us who have joined, we started over a month ago, we’ve come here with our eyes open, but so far it’s been fine (and yes the joining bonus is paid in month 1!)

We all have different priorities in our personal lives, mine happens to be my home life with my kids, and we therefore make different choices along the way. I would certainly not criticise another professional for taking a path that differs from mine.
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Old 24th Dec 2017, 18:19
  #218 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: London
Posts: 141
Stansted net salary for Capts since the new deal is about £5000 plus average £1600 sector pay - so around £6600 net per month.

Not too bad for about 17 days work a month and a 5/4 roster.
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Old 24th Dec 2017, 19:13
  #219 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: USA
Age: 41
Posts: 25
Thank you for the info. guys. really much appreciated. Isn't it a bit on the low side specially living in London? i am not being iffy. i am just inquiring as I was living in Asia for the past 7 years and I forgot how its like back in Europe.
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Old 25th Dec 2017, 08:28
  #220 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 412
Originally Posted by skyflyer737 View Post
Stansted net salary for Capts since the new deal is about £5000 plus average £1600 sector pay - so around £6600 net per month.

Not too bad for about 17 days work a month and a 5/4 roster.
-Is this as a ‘contract pilot’ or a Ryanair employee?
- what is the company pension contribution?
- do you get LoL?
- private medical insurance?
- Private Health Insurance?
- free uniforms?
- company pay for Aircrew Medical?
- share save schemes?
- etc

If you add all these up and then take it away from the net figure quoted, I think you will find that Ryanair’s total remuneration is woefully low - in comparison to other comparable airlines.
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