Joining Ryanair
Join Date: May 2016
Location: The EU
Posts: 234
By all accounts (friends still there) it's worse now than when 'people like me' left. I agree that 5/4 is useful, but in three years at Ryanair I had my pattern changed five times, only once with prior (1 month) warning.
Not very useful when you've planned your next six months and suddenly your working every day you expected to be off.
Not very useful when you've planned your next six months and suddenly your working every day you expected to be off.
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Stansted
Posts: 181
I agree and lets face it most 'proper airlines' are long gone....
I worked for one but then it went bust.....but then I only did 250 - 300 hrs a year got pro rata what I get paid today and that was 20 years a go and on a turboprop. Probably why it went bust ultimately and 9/11 of course.
The aviation world has gone backwards thats a fact.
Now I work for Ryanair.....
I worked for one but then it went bust.....but then I only did 250 - 300 hrs a year got pro rata what I get paid today and that was 20 years a go and on a turboprop. Probably why it went bust ultimately and 9/11 of course.
The aviation world has gone backwards thats a fact.
Now I work for Ryanair.....
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: EU
Posts: 1,218
Originally Posted by Vokes55
By all accounts (friends still there) it's worse now than when 'people like me' left. I agree that 5/4 is useful, but in three years at Ryanair I had my pattern changed five times, only once with prior (1 month) warning.
Not very useful when you've planned your next six months and suddenly your working every day you expected to be off.
Not very useful when you've planned your next six months and suddenly your working every day you expected to be off.
As I say, the stable roster pattern is extremely helpful for those with families and childcare needs. It need not be 5/4, it could be 5/3 or anything else, but provided it's predictable, it makes planning possible.
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 25
ryanair DEC pension
Hi Lazydog, can you confirm what you said about the pension is correct,
as i took it that RYR will match up to £8000 what a captain elects to pay in, it sounds like your saying RYR will give £8000 and also match up to an additional £8000 that would be interesting thanks
as i took it that RYR will match up to £8000 what a captain elects to pay in, it sounds like your saying RYR will give £8000 and also match up to an additional £8000 that would be interesting thanks
Sciolist (look it up) of the first order
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 779
Ryanaid don’t ‘give’ you £8000 for the pension AND up to a further £8000 more matching your contribution of £8000. That’d be £24,000 a year into the pension.
They simply match whatever you put in up to £8000. If you put in £5000 they’ll do the same I believe. If you put in £10k they’ll put in £8k.
For what it’s worth too, and unless I’m mistake this £8000 is actually still £6000 for us in the company already and based in Stansted, as we said no to the deal. DEC’s will get the deal we said no too. Funny isn’t it.
#cantwaittoleave
They simply match whatever you put in up to £8000. If you put in £5000 they’ll do the same I believe. If you put in £10k they’ll put in £8k.
For what it’s worth too, and unless I’m mistake this £8000 is actually still £6000 for us in the company already and based in Stansted, as we said no to the deal. DEC’s will get the deal we said no too. Funny isn’t it.
#cantwaittoleave
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: six micro tesla zone
Age: 28
Posts: 393
VJW, what happens to FO’s already in the company upgrading to CPT? Do they get the new deal?
What happens to cadets joining the company now, will they get the new deal when they get a permanent contract?
What happens to cadets joining the company now, will they get the new deal when they get a permanent contract?
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: last time I looked I was still here.
Posts: 4,510
Under EU labour law it is necessary to treat equal contracts as equal: i.e. two employees doing the same job on the same contract where one can not be treated 'less favourably' than the other. I once had such a claim against a company where a fellow captain had extra benefits allocated. His contract was a copy/paste of mine, but he had some dubious verbal agreements that gave significant unjustifiable advantages. It was not only against me, but all similar colleagues who were not aware of the set up. I complained & won in that the unjustifiable extras were removed. It was a shame as we were punting for being elevated to the same deal. As it was a dodgy deal in the first place there was only one realistic outcome.
I would question whether it would be permissible to issue differing contracts for line pilots at the same base, doing the same job, but being rewarded differently. Much would depend on who would be prepared to stand up or lie down.
I would question whether it would be permissible to issue differing contracts for line pilots at the same base, doing the same job, but being rewarded differently. Much would depend on who would be prepared to stand up or lie down.
