Joining Ryanair
Joined: Jan 2007
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From: EU
By all accounts (friends still there) it's worse now than when 'people like me' left. I agree that 5/4 is useful, but in three years at Ryanair I had my pattern changed five times, only once with prior (1 month) warning.
Not very useful when you've planned your next six months and suddenly your working every day you expected to be off.
Not very useful when you've planned your next six months and suddenly your working every day you expected to be off.
As I say, the stable roster pattern is extremely helpful for those with families and childcare needs. It need not be 5/4, it could be 5/3 or anything else, but provided it's predictable, it makes planning possible.
Joined: Nov 2004
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From: UK
ryanair DEC pension
Hi Lazydog, can you confirm what you said about the pension is correct,
as i took it that RYR will match up to £8000 what a captain elects to pay in, it sounds like your saying RYR will give £8000 and also match up to an additional £8000 that would be interesting thanks
as i took it that RYR will match up to £8000 what a captain elects to pay in, it sounds like your saying RYR will give £8000 and also match up to an additional £8000 that would be interesting thanks
Joined: Oct 2010
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From: UK
Ryanaid don’t ‘give’ you £8000 for the pension AND up to a further £8000 more matching your contribution of £8000. That’d be £24,000 a year into the pension.
They simply match whatever you put in up to £8000. If you put in £5000 they’ll do the same I believe. If you put in £10k they’ll put in £8k.
For what it’s worth too, and unless I’m mistake this £8000 is actually still £6000 for us in the company already and based in Stansted, as we said no to the deal. DEC’s will get the deal we said no too. Funny isn’t it.
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They simply match whatever you put in up to £8000. If you put in £5000 they’ll do the same I believe. If you put in £10k they’ll put in £8k.
For what it’s worth too, and unless I’m mistake this £8000 is actually still £6000 for us in the company already and based in Stansted, as we said no to the deal. DEC’s will get the deal we said no too. Funny isn’t it.
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Joined: Nov 2014
Aviation Qualifications: SLF
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From: six micro tesla zone
VJW, what happens to FO’s already in the company upgrading to CPT? Do they get the new deal?
What happens to cadets joining the company now, will they get the new deal when they get a permanent contract?
What happens to cadets joining the company now, will they get the new deal when they get a permanent contract?
Joined: Jun 2000
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From: last time I looked I was still here.
Under EU labour law it is necessary to treat equal contracts as equal: i.e. two employees doing the same job on the same contract where one can not be treated 'less favourably' than the other. I once had such a claim against a company where a fellow captain had extra benefits allocated. His contract was a copy/paste of mine, but he had some dubious verbal agreements that gave significant unjustifiable advantages. It was not only against me, but all similar colleagues who were not aware of the set up. I complained & won in that the unjustifiable extras were removed. It was a shame as we were punting for being elevated to the same deal. As it was a dodgy deal in the first place there was only one realistic outcome.
I would question whether it would be permissible to issue differing contracts for line pilots at the same base, doing the same job, but being rewarded differently. Much would depend on who would be prepared to stand up or lie down.
I would question whether it would be permissible to issue differing contracts for line pilots at the same base, doing the same job, but being rewarded differently. Much would depend on who would be prepared to stand up or lie down.
Joined: Aug 2015
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From: ..
Non rated Captains are bonded for three years. Only rated FOs with time on type or cadets recruited for the RHS. Rated FOs offered permanent contracts on joining. Cadets can apply at 1800 hours in the company If I’m not mistaken.
UK permanent FOs average around £3500 net. Busier summer months a bit more obviously.
UK permanent FOs average around £3500 net. Busier summer months a bit more obviously.
Joined: May 2005
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From: Johannesburg
Could anyone shed some light on Ryanair accepting ICAO ATPL for type rated DEFO. How much time is given on the validation before having to convert etc?
Many thanks!
Many thanks!
Last edited by Deskjocky; 18th January 2018 at 09:45.