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Old 4th Jan 2018, 15:12
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Join Date: Jun 2001
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who left 3 years ago when the company wasn't what it is now

that had me spitting my coffee out! I admire your optimism!
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Old 4th Jan 2018, 17:11
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Join Date: May 2016
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By all accounts (friends still there) it's worse now than when 'people like me' left. I agree that 5/4 is useful, but in three years at Ryanair I had my pattern changed five times, only once with prior (1 month) warning.

Not very useful when you've planned your next six months and suddenly your working every day you expected to be off.
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Old 4th Jan 2018, 17:23
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Other than throwing a few quid about what has gotten better? "We are improving the leave system" - I've heard that one every single year since the noughties.
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Old 4th Jan 2018, 20:36
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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I agree and lets face it most 'proper airlines' are long gone....

I worked for one but then it went bust.....but then I only did 250 - 300 hrs a year got pro rata what I get paid today and that was 20 years a go and on a turboprop. Probably why it went bust ultimately and 9/11 of course.

The aviation world has gone backwards thats a fact.

Now I work for Ryanair.....
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Old 4th Jan 2018, 20:51
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Windshearescape

I donít work for Jet2.com...look closer to home.

Even so, a lot of the other airlines could be considered Ďproperí compared to this lot.
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Old 4th Jan 2018, 23:10
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The wonder of the 5/4 roster is wearing thinner than managements claim that pilot salaries average between 125-150K per annum
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Old 5th Jan 2018, 10:31
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Originally Posted by Vokes55 View Post
By all accounts (friends still there) it's worse now than when 'people like me' left. I agree that 5/4 is useful, but in three years at Ryanair I had my pattern changed five times, only once with prior (1 month) warning.

Not very useful when you've planned your next six months and suddenly your working every day you expected to be off.
I'd understand your point of view if anything like that had ever happened to me. I've rarely heard of pattern changes except on command upgrades or base changes.

As I say, the stable roster pattern is extremely helpful for those with families and childcare needs. It need not be 5/4, it could be 5/3 or anything else, but provided it's predictable, it makes planning possible.
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Old 5th Jan 2018, 11:20
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Jet2.com isn't "a proper airline".
Really? In what way?
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Old 5th Jan 2018, 13:03
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Join Date: Apr 2017
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Hello, just out of curiosity; what would be the best Ryanair base regarding pay and living conditions?
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Old 5th Jan 2018, 17:06
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Catania it is then!
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Old 5th Jan 2018, 17:32
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Me thinks Doppio might have a closer affinity to Catania/Italy than Vastreas/Sweden.
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 21:22
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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ryanair DEC pension

Hi Lazydog, can you confirm what you said about the pension is correct,
as i took it that RYR will match up to £8000 what a captain elects to pay in, it sounds like your saying RYR will give £8000 and also match up to an additional £8000 that would be interesting thanks
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Old 7th Jan 2018, 08:02
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Ryanaid donít Ďgiveí you £8000 for the pension AND up to a further £8000 more matching your contribution of £8000. Thatíd be £24,000 a year into the pension.

They simply match whatever you put in up to £8000. If you put in £5000 theyíll do the same I believe. If you put in £10k theyíll put in £8k.

For what itís worth too, and unless Iím mistake this £8000 is actually still £6000 for us in the company already and based in Stansted, as we said no to the deal. DECís will get the deal we said no too. Funny isnít it.

#cantwaittoleave
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Old 7th Jan 2018, 12:30
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Join Date: Nov 2014
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VJW, what happens to FO’s already in the company upgrading to CPT? Do they get the new deal?

What happens to cadets joining the company now, will they get the new deal when they get a permanent contract?
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Old 7th Jan 2018, 12:49
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Under EU labour law it is necessary to treat equal contracts as equal: i.e. two employees doing the same job on the same contract where one can not be treated 'less favourably' than the other. I once had such a claim against a company where a fellow captain had extra benefits allocated. His contract was a copy/paste of mine, but he had some dubious verbal agreements that gave significant unjustifiable advantages. It was not only against me, but all similar colleagues who were not aware of the set up. I complained & won in that the unjustifiable extras were removed. It was a shame as we were punting for being elevated to the same deal. As it was a dodgy deal in the first place there was only one realistic outcome.
I would question whether it would be permissible to issue differing contracts for line pilots at the same base, doing the same job, but being rewarded differently. Much would depend on who would be prepared to stand up or lie down.
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Old 12th Jan 2018, 22:26
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: USA
Age: 41
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Can anyone tell me if Ryan provide Headsets in the cockpit or pilots have to catty their own?
many thanks in advance.
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Old 13th Jan 2018, 10:42
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Join Date: Oct 1999
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Get yourself aq good noise-cancelling headset; it'll make your day SO much easier! (noise = stress!)
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 16:35
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Yes, if you ask for a direct employment contract you’ll almost certainly get one as a DEFO.
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 19:37
  #299 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Iíd strongly advise against even considering the dodgy contractor option.... itís a real Can of worms. If no direct contract offered Iíd walk away.
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Old 17th Jan 2018, 01:43
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Join Date: Aug 2015
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All direct entry FOs and Captains are offered permanent contracts.
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