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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 11:13
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Shared roster

Anyone know if theyre still offering a shared roster ? IE 5 on 13 off ?
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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 17:39
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Yes but not at initial recruitment stage. It can be only applied for from within.
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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 21:11
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Originally Posted by GScapture View Post
Does anyone have any idea about the pilot situation in Ryanair? Apparently during past seven years or so it's been the normal "they won't get thru this summer"-story among the pilots but anyone have any real info how they are doing? Heard they went to Brazil for a roadshow

All the guys from my type rating are gone.
The question isn't "do they have enough pilots?", its "how many flights are cancelled today?".

You always have enough pilots if you cancel enough flights.
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 12:27
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you can go to ryanair website and check real time updates for every flight in a nice list. so far this morning out of 1000+ flights, none of them are cancelled and vast majority are on time. The delays that they have are within 20-30 minutes, but I guess the situation will deteriorate with the TS in UK at the moment. It looks like they're doing well
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 13:31
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Those are all last minute cancellations and those due to extreme circumstances. Those cancelled earlier will not show up on 'cloud.scorebuddy.com' or on their own website; i.e. A good way to hide.
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 15:38
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ah jeez, and can you tell me how many flights a day do they cancel and where do you get the data from? Are you saying a cancellation due to crew shortage is planned in advance? Why not get one of the ACMI's to step in then, surely cheaper than paying all the compos to stranded pax? Some of the agenda on this site is beyond real..
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 17:45
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Are you saying a cancellation due to crew shortage is planned in advance?
That is what he's saying and I believe that is true too. If you do it neatly well in advance it won't be noticed. The red nosed competitor hasn't been as smooth with it this summer.

ACMI has been used in the past, it's nothing new.
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 19:15
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I believe that during this time of the year there isn't that much acmi available... reason why NAX even have to use xtra airways from Florida. That can't be cheap!
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 23:23
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Havent seen any evidence of cancelled flights. Even on social media people would be complaining on every ryanair post possible if this was the case.

They havent leased in summer for a few years now, previously they used flydubai and and before that was an airbus outfit. I do think they have slowed deliveries somewhat.

Hiring must be painful, they have started bonding cadets. Best news for a long time.
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Old 24th Aug 2017, 07:23
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Hiring must be painful, they have started bonding cadets. Best news for a long time.
Do they pay for training then?
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Old 24th Aug 2017, 09:24
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Originally Posted by UAV689 View Post
they have started bonding cadets. Best news for a long time.
From what I've heard only 10% of cadets recruited presently will be bonded for 4-6 years.

To be eligible for the bond you have to go through the Ryanair APC, which seems to be fed from certain eastern and southern european schools and results in a Ryanair tailored MCC at CAE.

As of yet, I haven't heard the cost, but you pay in the low 's before commencing the MCC and Ryanair pay for the rest of the cost of the MCC, the TR and Line Training.
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Old 24th Aug 2017, 10:28
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And how do you bond a self-employed person?
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Old 24th Aug 2017, 10:49
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I'd guess it isn't that hard to make a kind of contract with some terms for this. Just like company's are able to sign a contract with each other regarding prices or whatever.
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Old 24th Aug 2017, 10:52
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Old 24th Aug 2017, 11:50
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Originally Posted by Veltro View Post
The APC program will be open to everybody through McGinley Aviation. I think the students coming from the schools who already have an APC agreement in place with Ryanair will have a preference to be called for the interview simply because they know their "products". Before this it was open only to locals/Eastern Europeans and Italians if the school is Italian.
2 bond options: 3 years and 6 years. How it is done, well... we will find out.
Do you know which schools are involved in this, I'm guessing Global SA in Greece and Bartolini are two of them?
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 11:16
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My time

I worked there.

Sent out of base at short notice. Book and pay for my own hotel , find way to get there etc, so no time off.
Happened 3/4 weeks rostered.

Was sick and at sent notice ordered to Dublin. Pay didn't arrive in my account, with no warning and I was on a Ryan contract at this stage.
As it was quite a bad illness and recurred, because I was afraid to take time off and properly heal. They witheld my pay 3 times in total. A nightmare with my mortgage

They ignored doctors and AME letters. Never asked me how I was.
They called me repeatedly in early hours of days off.

In the first four years my pay didn't rise ,so with inflation fell 10+%, but at four years they offered 70 e and hour, down from 85. I had 28 days to set up a PLC and accept,orlose my job.
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 16:48
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Luckely I never worked for them but this is the most airline ever! Pretending to be the Southwest Airlines of Europe and in the meantime treating their personnel like trash.
Only one thing to do, no pilot should join and the ones who made the mistake to join should go on immediate strike pan European wide.
Oh yeah, one more thing, every RYR pilot should pay let,s say 50 euro to rend a bunch of criminals to get rid of O Lairy and the rest of his management bandits.

This could be a great airline, if they treat their personnel well.

I hope the pilot shortage will hurt them even harder and harder. Then finally O Leary has to bend over and offer some decent terms and conditions instead of the employees getting shafted everytime and accept this.

But again, no one force you to go work for RYR. Just don,t.

If due to the many cancellations also the travel public stay away, that is even better.
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 18:14
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Originally Posted by El Capitano View Post
But again, no one force you to go work for RYR. Just don,t.
+1
there is a lot ryanair bashing these days, (suddenly those pilots found out their balls), but in the mean time, those same pilots were happy to bow down during all these years. Am I wrong ?
all of these employees are in collusion. No sympathy here.
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 19:40
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It's easy to blame existing pilots for not doing anything but one needs to understand that the way the personnel is structured and organized is so twisted that it's easier said than done to organize not to mention unionize.

What they've been lacking all these years is leverage and that's what they've got now. People are voting with their feets and now when everyone can see the inevitable I wouldn't be surprised seeing bases like DUB or STN going on strike or stopping flying suddenly, following with other bases. Hope they do.

And yeah not getting this topic going too much off-topic, answer to a question in the first page;

Don't go there.
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 19:50
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Only one thing to do, no pilot should join and the ones who made the mistake to join should go on immediate strike pan European wide.
Oh yeah, one more thing, every RYR pilot should pay let,s say 50 euro to rend a bunch of criminals to get rid of O Lairy and the rest of his management bandits.
Hard to know where to begin with this drivel. However, with cretins like this in the industry (assuming indeed that s/he is a professional pilot), it's not hard to see why appropriate respect isn't forthcoming for the profession.
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