BA Direct Entry Pilot.
Joined: Nov 2007
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From: uk
Hardly leaving in Droves Rex (despite the best efforts of the company).
A quick look through the seniority lists shows about 30 “missing numbers” between seniority number 3400 - 4600 (estimate those with seniority 3400 joined about 5 years ago) works out at an attrition rate of 2.5% - surprisingly low considering.
A quick look through the seniority lists shows about 30 “missing numbers” between seniority number 3400 - 4600 (estimate those with seniority 3400 joined about 5 years ago) works out at an attrition rate of 2.5% - surprisingly low considering.
Joined: Aug 2002
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From: UK
Hardly leaving in Droves Rex (despite the best efforts of the company).
A quick look through the seniority lists shows about 30 “missing numbers” between seniority number 3400 - 4600 (estimate those with seniority 3400 joined about 5 years ago) works out at an attrition rate of 2.5% - surprisingly low considering.
A quick look through the seniority lists shows about 30 “missing numbers” between seniority number 3400 - 4600 (estimate those with seniority 3400 joined about 5 years ago) works out at an attrition rate of 2.5% - surprisingly low considering.
Joined: Dec 2016
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From: UK
Expect there'll be a good number off to Virgin when contracts start going out. I do fly with many who are 'looking' but with Brexit hanging over the industry at the moment it's a risky time to move. Last in, first out.
Joined: May 1999
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From: Runcorn,Cheshire,England
That has just prompted me to take a look through the PRIAM results to see for myself and I agree, the number of people leaving is exceedingly low despite the rumours suggesting otherwise. I can count only 10 missing numbers before people are getting multiple valid bids (presumably about the 5 years in position).
Joined: Aug 2002
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From: UK
75% reserve takes place within your three weeks on (rather than a full timer’s 4 weeks), but you earn the same points as a full timer. There are 6 fixed days off within those 21 days (2 blocks of 3 days in long haul, and 3 blocks of 2 days in short haul).
Joined: Oct 2003
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From: The Peaks
There has been some opportunity to make a whole day of it and do a combined testing, interview and group ex all in one day. When you get invited to first stage and book online have a look if a combined stage 1 and 2 is available. Otherwise you will do them separately. Re interview - it's all competency based ie tell me a time when.... Make sure you know why you want to join and know your stuff else you'll be weeded out!
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Answer ... Probably not ....
Apparently there's a big recurring whinge going on about the credited hour system making you work far harder in the month in which you have leave, than even in a fully screwed up JSS month. Then they ask to buy back your leave for peanuts and apparently the leave doesn't get replaced either. Counter productive and oppressive, or what ?
BigQ - "Where's the regulator on this ?" - UsualA - "Sunk with the Belgrano. "
Referring back to my post #6695 some ten pages ago,
Our LH Pub Mole tried to explain but in between laughing, crying and spilling his beer, the only bit that made sense was ....
If you're part time you will be cheated out of two or three free days each month. Your part time days will start the day after your last trip. You will lose the industrial rest days (usually two for longhaul) that ordinarily follow the trip. You will therefore become available to work again, two days earlier than a full time pilot.
Part timers are thus working harder pro-rata than their full time mates. This doesn't happen in VS.
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sorry, another part time question... if you were 75% 3 on / 1 off, could you tag your leave weeks onto the part time week off? And what about the DFW? And how would reserve work? Cheers.
Apparently there's a big recurring whinge going on about the credited hour system making you work far harder in the month in which you have leave, than even in a fully screwed up JSS month. Then they ask to buy back your leave for peanuts and apparently the leave doesn't get replaced either. Counter productive and oppressive, or what ?
BigQ - "Where's the regulator on this ?" - UsualA - "Sunk with the Belgrano. "
Referring back to my post #6695 some ten pages ago,
Our LH Pub Mole tried to explain but in between laughing, crying and spilling his beer, the only bit that made sense was ....
If you're part time you will be cheated out of two or three free days each month. Your part time days will start the day after your last trip. You will lose the industrial rest days (usually two for longhaul) that ordinarily follow the trip. You will therefore become available to work again, two days earlier than a full time pilot.
Part timers are thus working harder pro-rata than their full time mates. This doesn't happen in VS.
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From: Tw
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From: Llanfairtwiddlytwiddly
The two I know of are both leaving it.
Joined: Feb 2005
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From: Botswana
How old are they though? If they’re less than 30 and their true endgame is BA long haul then imho it’s a foolish decision. Their seniority will jump far quicker on SH as opposed to being endlessly junior as a LH pilot doing six low credit crap trips missing virtually an entire week of sleep in the calendar month.
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: uk
You have a short time window to accept or decline then they just contact next on the pool list.
Many people going down to MSL 3750 coming out of SH freeze and release for aspirational LH bid.
350 fleet will have nine aircraft end 2020.
Many people going down to MSL 3750 coming out of SH freeze and release for aspirational LH bid.
350 fleet will have nine aircraft end 2020.
Joined: Mar 2017
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From: Dublin
Joined: Feb 2005
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From: Botswana
Also known as the “what type rating is on their licence” field. It’s utter nonsense. The BA sim has always been about being able to demonstrate the ability to pass a Type Rating on a Long Haul fleet.
Joined: Jun 2019
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From: Sussex
Not anymore. The BA sim is now about whether or not they think you should go into the A320 only hold pool or the LH hold pool and it depended on your performance in the sim and total experience levels, but not type rating. This was said to me explicitly during my sim check last summer.
Joined: Mar 2017
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From: Dublin
I was told this directly by someone carrying out the interviews so would be surprised if they were lying. How else do they decide to offer some the choice of LH/SH and some SH only?
