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Old 8th Jan 2018, 07:33
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Retrojet

Whatever the plan for them is in the short term, I don't think you can draw any conclusions about their use beyond 2018. It may well be the plan to transfer them slowly across to long haul as was/is the case with the BMI slots at Heathrow.
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Old 8th Jan 2018, 07:46
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Fair enough....but even for short term....good news for TR'd guys and girls, well I guess it depends on the leasing of Qatar and Titan aircraft initially and then what ever happens in terms of sourcing extra aircraft
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Old 9th Jan 2018, 15:59
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BA Cityflyer now flying some of the routes till the end of the year at least confirmed.
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Old 9th Jan 2018, 16:27
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I wonder how all these leased aircraft will affect recruitment for us lot.... BACF, Qatar? and Titan?
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Old 10th Jan 2018, 15:12
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Retrojet the Monarch slots will affect the amount of intake in a positive way. Using BA Cityflyer, Titan and Qatar is more expensive then having (bigger) BA aircraft operate these slots.

The post from Jet Set Willie is incorrect, there is a lot of wishful thinking within BACF, but so far BACF will only operate a few slots out of LGW, mainly in the weekend, from the 9th of Feb till the end of the winter season. This is when mainline think they have enough aircraft to do these flights themselves.

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Old 11th Jan 2018, 20:06
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I understand recruitment have been contacting those who were rated previously to clarify their circumstances, I guess something is about to start somewhere.

Can anyone clarify the latest info?
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Old 11th Jan 2018, 23:49
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Which ratings were they asking about?
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Old 12th Jan 2018, 19:31
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"Can anyone clarify"

Approx 200 this year, 60+ are cadet with the rest dep
Expecting it to be similar numbers each for the next 4 years
Could be more if lots leave over the current pension and bidding system changes

Source : top horses mouth
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 10:55
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Any ideas when the next lot of movement will happen? I know they said next update will be mid-January....any rumours floating around.
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 11:16
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Hopefully soon Retrojet but the new flight ops manpower department seem to like saying they'll give updates which never turn up on time.
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Old 20th Jan 2018, 17:22
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Min 30 Direct Entry onto the 787 this year.
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Old 20th Jan 2018, 21:53
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80 new FPPs who have already started to filter into the training system
200DEPs to be recruited with airbus type ratings first.
No DE longhaul until airbus requirements filled or pool of type rated airbus drys up!
As for next year, it’s anyone’s guess, as with this year and with previous years its all reactionary. They do not seem plan for more than 12 months ahead.
However pilot numbers in 2019 are expected to exceed 5K. (Currently about 4100+)
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Old 21st Jan 2018, 00:21
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TRE who did my recent sim said trainers had been told at a recent meeting we need to recruit at least 300 this year. This was without having factoring the Monarch LGW slots. Training managament had also advised we are becoming very short of F/o's on long haul. Factor in the announced expansion of long haul and the deployment of people later in the year for the arrival of the 350.... Seems like it's all about to kick off again!
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Old 21st Jan 2018, 09:19
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I realise you could still make an argument for it being “mid January”, but has anyone had the promised update from recruitment?
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Old 21st Jan 2018, 11:54
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Nope not yet I hope it is going to come next week, they were even talking about another web conference so will see
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Old 21st Jan 2018, 13:40
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Originally Posted by tfly737 View Post
Min 30 Direct Entry onto the 787 this year.
Who gave you that information?
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Old 21st Jan 2018, 17:44
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They're waiting on an update from network planning regarding the Monarch slots and the 787 fiasco before announcing anything, but that doesn't mean to say any of the above is true.
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Old 22nd Jan 2018, 13:00
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No DE longhaul until airbus requirements filled or pool of type rated airbus drys up!
Highly unlikely to be the case. Due...
we are becoming very short of F/o's on long haul. Factor in the announced expansion of long haul and the deployment of people later in the year for the arrival of the 350
Any internal bidders for RHS LH who are unfrozen, will likely be 'released' at some point in the training year, as fast as FPPs/recruits can replace them. That won't be sufficiently quickly to satisfy the LH training sausage machine.

Which is why...
Min 30 Direct Entry onto the 787 this year.
(As long as they get the Tupperware jet fixed!) is quite likely to be an underestimate.

If 'today's' plan runs it's course!
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Old 22nd Jan 2018, 15:41
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Originally Posted by keepitlit View Post
No DE longhaul until airbus requirements filled or pool of type rated airbus drys up!
There's already been 747 and 777 DEP recruitment over the last few weeks
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Old 22nd Jan 2018, 16:18
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777? We were told about 4 x 747s back in December has there been more since?..how many taken onto the 777?

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