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Old 28th Aug 2016, 13:44
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The current Pilot Recruitment Manager is indeed leaving however, as Wiggy has said there is a continuing need for pilots at BA for the foreseeable not least because of the retirements. It's just going to be a different person in charge of it, the need will still be there and won't (shouldn't) be affected.
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Old 29th Aug 2016, 07:37
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I agree with Rex. The number of pilots required in BA is driven by lots of different things (retirements, part time working, avaliable slots, business plans, numbers of aircraft in different fleets and crewing ratios, training capacity, simulator availability, projected sickness levels, rostering systems, etc).

The Pilot Recruitment Manager and his team run the numbers and parameters and eventually come up with the plan (which varies frequently) in conjunction with BALPA. This plan includes recruitment.

In practice, replace person A with person B and you end up with the plan. The personality won't change the plan as much as you imply, the other factors will have a greater impact.
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Old 29th Aug 2016, 17:41
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Ok that's good then, I guess one of his two deputies will most likely takeover and carry on from previously unless they decide to change the whole selection process
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Old 30th Aug 2016, 21:16
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Hi All!

Would be possible to have any feedback from someone who has recently attended the sim session??
thank you very much in advance!
Regards

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Old 30th Aug 2016, 21:33
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The new pilot recruitment manager will be a non-pilot on an office contract rather than a management pilot like Lindsay was. I don't think it was entirely Lindsay's decision to stand down. It's all part of 'streamlining' the business under the new CEO.

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Old 31st Aug 2016, 08:02
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I would have thought replacing someone doing two jobs, having them go back to their day job and getting someone else in to do the other job on a full time basis was the polar opposite of streamlining?
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Old 31st Aug 2016, 08:42
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Not saying I agree with it, but I've heard the opinion expressed well before our current CEO arrived that it was a waste of resources to have a pilot holding a management post that could be performed by a non pilot. Basically the opinion expressed was that a Pay Point XX pilot should flying the line, not sat at a desk.

Edit to add: To avoid any misunderstanding - Personally I think manager pilot recruiting should be a pilot, but I'm not an accountant.

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Old 31st Aug 2016, 10:31
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Yes I agree it would be appropriate to have a actual "pilot" taking over the Pilot recruitment and not some HR person, I guess this non pilot will have people doing cartwheels and tunnel building as part of the pilot selection process in due course that is if they change the current selection process, at least with LC and his team you could chat to them directly.
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Old 31st Aug 2016, 13:03
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Originally Posted by RexBanner View Post
I would have thought replacing someone doing two jobs, having them go back to their day job and getting someone else in to do the other job on a full time basis was the polar opposite of streamlining?
You would think. As wiggy alluded to, whether LC was sat at Waterside or flying the line, he still took up a sim slot every 6 months regardless of how many hours flying he carried out. The new CEO views this as an inefficient use of resources.

Personally, I agree with wiggy. You want the head of pilot recruitment to be a pilot. How much difference to the bottom line is it really going to make vs the quality of candidates recruited and how BA are perceived in the industry?

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Old 31st Aug 2016, 14:40
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LC was superb. Everything you want in a pilot recruiter. To have a pilot heavily involved in the process was excellent. He steered the ship very well. Thankfully I believe our pilot selectors will still be involved in the overall process though, namely during the interview phase and of course the final sim. So all is not lost.
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Old 14th Sep 2016, 15:33
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Has there been any further movement in the holding pool?

Are days two and three still being held?
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Old 14th Sep 2016, 16:55
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As far as I know, no.

We were told a few weeks ago there was to be no more courses to be allocated this year. Disappointing having been in the pool nearly 6 months but the need to sort out internal bids first is of course understandable. 2017 plans should be finalised by early to mid October so hopefully we will know more then. I know through friends a few sim sessions are still to be completed, no idea about day 2.
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Old 16th Sep 2016, 19:17
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Anyone got the sim on 21 Sep afternoon slot?

PM me!
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 11:48
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Sim in Sept

Anyone got a sim week beginning 26th sept??

PM me if you do
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Old 20th Sep 2016, 13:04
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FYI- few weeks ago prior to my sim, BA emailed me with the details of my sim partner who wanted to get in touch and gave permission for them to forward his phone number and email. Might have better luck trying that, rather then using prune
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 13:19
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Anybody waiting for october slots has been able to book them since yesterday?
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Old 24th Sep 2016, 18:44
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Hi all!
I am waiting to book a sim.
Any suggestions on to how to book it??
I got an email about 3 weeks ago about the new platform.
I did all the required steps but still no news.
thanks for the help
Best Regards
Angelo
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 20:50
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Anyone know with reasonable certainty how many are in the pool? And approx SH/LH mix?*

*fully aware postings could be to any fleet
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 13:07
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80 Pilots are waiting for their Sim Slots.
I am already waiting for 2.5 month now.
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 13:26
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Ladies and Gents,
I just started to prepare myself for my upcoming Sim Screening.
There are quite some diverse informations out there concerning the program.
I would appreciate, if someone who just attended to the screening could contact me per pm.
Anyway I am open for any tips and advices.

Thanks a lot in advance.
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