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Old 12th Apr 2016, 15:55
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Exactly Wiggy!

I never did it, honestly, no really, I didn't (now retired).

However it always remains an option. The problem is that if they know you having been looking at all options and none succeed, and then you throw a sickie .......

Sometimes it may be more advisable to remain below the radar!
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Old 12th Apr 2016, 16:48
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The problem is that if they know you having been looking at all options and none succeed, and then you throw a sickie
Which is precisely why sickness has rocketed. People no longer make any effort to swap - they just go sick. In fact if they really need the time off, they dont even bid for it because they know they will only get roster assigned and then really be on the radar if they go sick. The company wonders why sickness has jumped so much. This is the reason in a nutshell! Our managers manage costs not people, and by not considering the human element of the equation they just jump from one unintended cosequence to another. I am convinced they would run the airline an awful lot more cheaply if they would only start thinking about the humans they are employing.
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Old 12th Apr 2016, 17:47
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Hi all,

I am due to attend the initial assessment soon. Just wondering if anyone has done it recently, by that I mean in the last week or so. I have heard on the grapevine that the Pilapt test (numbers counting down, flying cross-hairs with the joystick and the shapes and colours test) have disappeared? Is this fact or fiction? Can anyone help!?

Thank you!
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Old 12th Apr 2016, 19:09
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A mate of mine has just got a direct entry long haul position and he only had to answer ONE question. It went like this: your roster says your flight departs at 2100Z, the station briefing says pick up time from the the hotel is departure time -1h25, time difference is UTC -6 hours. When will pick up be in local time? He got it right and now he's in! Amazing.
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Old 12th Apr 2016, 19:29
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Ah but Doug, did they force feed him 5 pints, a couple of murky looking shots, a "special" kebab, and then make him sleep in a small room for 8 hours with a Hoover going constantly outside and people shouting loudly in Chinese prior to his pick-up mental gymnastics? If they didn't, the process is flawed in my opinion, and someone should tell BA so they can form a steering group to analyse the risks. If they DID however, kudos to your mate, and get him to write the station briefs will you, we'll all buy him a pint. That's about 2500 pints if everyone on long haul chips in.....now, what time was pick up again?
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Old 12th Apr 2016, 20:46
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Just got through the paper sift to the Numerical, verbal and capacity tests.
Any body with recent experience who wouldn't mind letting me know what the best practice material would be.
Only have 3 days until interview. Seems very quick.
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Old 13th Apr 2016, 03:23
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Is anybody being offered assessment days beyond the 17th of April?

I've only been offered 16th and 17th...both in Hong Kong, which is a *little* bit far to go. Resourcing say to just keep checking the website, but in the meantime I am getting emails saying 'Book a day or your application will be withdrawn
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Old 13th Apr 2016, 04:31
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I think a lot of people go through this concern, myself included- I initially thought my only shot was to attend an assessment date with just a couple of days notice.

More dates will become available on a rolling basis (unless perhaps recruitment stops). I think the emails are automatically generated.
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Old 13th Apr 2016, 13:40
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Your application will be withdrawn, as it happened to me. I rang up and explained I'm still interested but the dates don't suit, they just reinstated my application. No problems.

Are the plans to keep on recruiting for a few more years?
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Old 13th Apr 2016, 14:27
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Inevitably. Whatever the economy does they will need some pilots. Numbers depends on how many short haul slots go to LH which will depend on the economy.

Retirements have to start again in October and there's a large backlog in part time requests as it hasn't been available recently.

In 5/6 years time though retirements dry up again and then you'll be waiting for the current mid 40's long haul Capts to retire which will be a while.
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Old 13th Apr 2016, 14:39
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Retirements have to start again in October
According to today's hot rumour due to a combination of challenging rosters and an apparent lack of availability of Part Time in the near future there's already a bit of a rush on.......
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Old 13th Apr 2016, 18:57
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Good news all round then
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Old 13th Apr 2016, 20:06
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Thinking of applying.

If I where lucky enough to be offered a position, what is the current time to command on short / long haul.

Currently left seat for Loco, 8500hrs ( 7000 Jet ).

Thanks in advance.
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Old 13th Apr 2016, 20:09
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Rosco - at the moment, your first bid for SH Command could be successful. Last year's bid saw people who joined in 2015 being offered SH Commands at LHR and LGW.
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Old 13th Apr 2016, 20:57
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You do need to recognise that this year's seniority for short haul commands may well turn out to be an anomaly. A significant number of junior FOs failed to bid last year; not because they did not want a command, but because they did not think there was much point. I doubt they'll make the same mistake again this year...
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Old 13th Apr 2016, 21:13
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I assume when you use the term " junior FO " this is someone new to the company?.

Do you bid once a year?.
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 06:22
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I assume when you use the term " junior FO " this is someone new to the company?.
In the context of the current situation on the A320 fleet, I assume that's what GS-Alpha means, but it's also used in general for the FO's (and even SFOs) near the bottom of their status list. You can certainly be referred to as a "junior FO" for years if there's no movement on the fleet.

..and yes, normally you bid for type/seat change once a year.

Last edited by wiggy; 14th Apr 2016 at 07:22.
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 06:44
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You do need to recognise that this year's seniority for short haul commands may well turn out to be an anomaly.
Hence the word "could".
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 17:52
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The key point is that there are no long haul deliveries in 2017, so fewer senior short haul captains moving on. The part time bulge may still cause commands to be junior again though. 2018 has loads of deliveries.
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Old 15th Apr 2016, 13:49
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Asked this a few pages ago, as of yet I don't think I saw a reply, but of those of us who were emailed to come back within the 12 months, has anyone had a reply yet?
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