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Old 21st Oct 2014, 21:01
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Also, if you were to start at LGW how difficult would it be to transfer to LHR and how long would this take?

Can LHR airbus crews bid for LGW work or is it fully covered?

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Old 21st Oct 2014, 21:39
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I wouldn't recommend commuting during your intro to BA. (Though I suppose you could?) So that would cover about the first 6-8 weeks. (Cheapish accommodation available) After that I can't see why you couldn't commute. It could work just as well for you as anyone senior. Though I think it's 6 months before you qualify for staff travel?? Also you might expect to do more standby duties than seniors, which run for 4 weeks, including 7 'fixed' days off, plus other 'ad hoc' days off during the 'working' 3 weeks, including a 2 day block. (Perhaps one Reserve month per year????)

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In BA there is an Engagement Freeze of 5 years. Because this is based on qualifying training years, it is often less. During this period BA will do with you whatever suits them. Including for example, changing your fleet of joining!!

Since freezes are only type freezes, (not base freezes) I can't imagine any circumstance where you couldn't transfer to Heathrow Airbus after an absolute maximum of 5 years.
Of course by that time you will also have a valid bid to other BA fleets too. Success based on availability of course, but Airbus transfer LGW to LHR would involve NO additional freeze. It's essentially a freebee!

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Old 21st Oct 2014, 23:40
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Regarding commuting, whilst I understand it could be a bit of a ball ache (particularly early on), are there certain cities it'd be more difficult to commute from? Perhaps due to there already being a ton of crew commuting from that location, so making it less likely for more junior pilots to get a jumpseat if necessary?

4468, I think you're right about the 6 months prior to staff travel kicking in.

PS. I'm referring to short haul Airbus, either LHR or LGW.
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 10:44
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Non Type Rated Recruitment

According to a skipper I flew with 2 days ago who is on the Recruitment team BA are about to open up for Non Type Rated DEP. This has also been stated on the BALPA company forum this morning.

I don't have any details of Hours or Min MTOW Requirements but it's certainly looking positive for those wishing to apply who do not have a current BA type on their licence

Our Postings & Promotions Chap in BALPA has also stated last night that the Aspirational fleet moves are hopefully going to be published at the end of Oct. He has confirmed BA require close to 300 new pilots into the business in 2015.

Hopefully a bit of good news all round... Hope this helps,
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 11:10
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are there certain cities it'd be more difficult to commute from? Perhaps due to there already being a ton of crew commuting from that location, so making it less likely for more junior pilots to get a jumpseat if necessary?
Basic answer to the basic question is yes....., though if there's tonnes of flights as well as tonnes of crew there might not be a problem, it's the destinations with only 1/2/3 flights a day that can be a real PITA to commute to/from .

If you are able to give some idea of where you are thinking of without being too specific (e.g. England, Scotland, Europe) I guess one of the "locals" who is familiar with their own bunfight would be able to be a bit more specific.

I can confirm it is 6 months before staff travel kicks in.
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 12:17
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BA Non-type rated recruitment

To set the scene.... BA are about to announce Pilot recruitment of Non-type rated applicants. The total requirement next year will be in the region of 300 new joiners made up of FPP cadets, type rated applicants and ex-mil managed path.

As both the FPP and ex-mil numbers would seem to add up to around 100 and there is clearly a shortage of the type rated candidates it would seem to be a great opportunity for others to try for a place.

Minimum qualifications etc will no doubt follow in due course..

Any takers?
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 12:36
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Type rated but missed the boat.....
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 12:58
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Smokie, For sure it will open again
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 14:02
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I'm guessing there is no need for people with hours and experience, just not on the BA fleet?

(B737 rated, unfrozen atpl, 2000hrs)
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 14:12
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Wiggy, thanks for the info!

I pretty much envisaged living locally in the beginning, but with an eye on commuting from Glasgow or Edinburgh (although possibly somewhere warmer in the longer term! ).

(I'm not a DEP, but I'm assuming life will be pretty identical once online)

If any short haul commuters fancy dropping me a PM, I'd be grateful.
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 17:34
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AFAIK Glasgow/Edinburgh are very very much commuter land (both pilots and Cabin Crew) but the upside is the frequency of the flights
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Old 22nd Oct 2014, 18:05
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Probably also worth saying that in BA it's easy to text the operating pilots, to request considereation should jumpseats be required on full flights.

It goes without saying that pilots tend to look after pilots first. My policy is 'first come, first served'. Nothing to do with seniority.
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Old 23rd Oct 2014, 00:39
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Adding to the above; what about commuting from say, South of France (Toulouse/Nice/Marseille) - that would be my ultimate goal of working with BA and living down there. Is that something that would be feasible within the first few years of employment as a cadet on SH?
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Old 23rd Oct 2014, 00:44
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Not sure on short haul, but it seems on long haul, depending on fleet, quite possible from what has been written here previously.

I Would be interested to hear about the effects of EASA FTL regs on Back to Back duty pairings...how will they affect commuting possibilities?
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Old 23rd Oct 2014, 08:34
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Good luck to all who did the screening already.

Would any of you care to shed some light on the tests you did?

PM would be wonderful. Thanks very much!

PS. Before I get bashed on here I have already done much research, just want to check there are no new surprises. Thanks!
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Old 23rd Oct 2014, 10:33
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Climb360 - it is expected there will be recruitment directly onto the 744, 787 and 320, non type rated.
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Old 24th Oct 2014, 10:09
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A PM on the screening for me will be much appreciated also...

Good luck to all going/gone through it...
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Old 24th Oct 2014, 12:20
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what about commuting from say, South of France (Toulouse/Nice/Marseille) - that would be my ultimate goal of working with BA and living down there. Is that something that would be feasible within the first few years of employment as a cadet on SH?
Blindingly obvious advice but you need to look at junior rosters and commuting flight frequencies/timings between LHR and your planned abode before you can work out whether it's feasible or not.

If you're on a tight block of days off you don't want to have to sit around at LHR for hours on end, or perhaps have to stay overnight, waiting for the next flight home - that's a major PITA....How would your proposed commute fit in with early starts/late finishes? FWIW some people are doing well out of running B&B's on the Bath Road....

It certainly is "do able" eventually as there are commuters (Pilots and Cabin Crew) from all of the places you named, but most especially Nice, which is the best served of the above three cities in terms of number of flights a day, but they're mainly on Long Haul. There's a handful of short haul commuters from one other of the above three, but FWIW they're senior and/or part timers.

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Old 24th Oct 2014, 14:16
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Thanks Wiggy - very useful indeed, great to know.
I can imagine some of those B&B's must love the commuting pilots!
I agree that it would make more sense as a SFO where one is at least more than likely to be guaranteed triplines - I suppose it would be tricky/tiring working a commute as a junior FO around a series of SH blindlines. I would really only ever envisage the commute working on LH but good to know that it is doable on the SH fleet too. Thanks for the input, appreciated.
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Old 25th Oct 2014, 01:13
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If anyone that has been through the interview process recently could they please post their feedback or PM me that would be greatly appreciated, many thanks in advance. Best of luck to anyone that got the call!
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