I have finally had enough!!!
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Not to worry, I have jacked in aviation and gone back to the Business/IT world. Luckily I do have 12 years experience in business/IT and a Masters degree so that was something to fall back on.
I love flying, but not the bull**** that goes with it. I am also a pilot that loves real hands on flying, not airline crap. Fortunately I make a hell of a lot more money in business/IT than aviation and dont regret leaving aviation at all and will never go back as I know what it is about.
Just make a decision, to stay or go and stick with it, dont get caught up with indecision as that is what gives you restless nights. Good luck to you and all those who decide to stick with it, I for one am probably going to even let my license go completely to ensure I can never go back. Best of luck!!
I love flying, but not the bull**** that goes with it. I am also a pilot that loves real hands on flying, not airline crap. Fortunately I make a hell of a lot more money in business/IT than aviation and dont regret leaving aviation at all and will never go back as I know what it is about.
Just make a decision, to stay or go and stick with it, dont get caught up with indecision as that is what gives you restless nights. Good luck to you and all those who decide to stick with it, I for one am probably going to even let my license go completely to ensure I can never go back. Best of luck!!
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I don't think many of us aspired to fly for an airline because we thought we would be hand flying round the world.
You appear to me to be a computer geek that might have got his CPL-IR-ME and no more. Just like the chap in the office that had to top whatever Gareth had done.
So many Walter Mittys'....
You appear to me to be a computer geek that might have got his CPL-IR-ME and no more. Just like the chap in the office that had to top whatever Gareth had done.
So many Walter Mittys'....
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Hi saddest aviator
heres some ideas
are there part time or job sharing options in your company? A partial or 1/3 reallocation of time to completely different duties might help.
If you have a gem of a wife she might have the means to help pay the bills,or want to develope her own career. I lucked out in that regard.
The Uk can be dark and down, to the point that winters can leave people with seasonal affective disorder..joining a sporting team,getting really fit, getting more sunlight, or just plain moving to a nice sunny country with a variation in work might do it.
Jumping in Cessna and going for a flight up the coast in OZ usually fixes the
cobwebs.
There was a poor sod in the left seat not that long ago in the USA who decided to have a rant mid flight but sadly had his mike stuck on, informing the entire cabin plus all the aircraft in his sector plus ATC in great detail how he felt about his career!
A job in safety related management or education may be fullfilling ...at least theres a sense that its meaningfull work.Teaching always felt enjoyable to me.
heres some ideas
are there part time or job sharing options in your company? A partial or 1/3 reallocation of time to completely different duties might help.
If you have a gem of a wife she might have the means to help pay the bills,or want to develope her own career. I lucked out in that regard.
The Uk can be dark and down, to the point that winters can leave people with seasonal affective disorder..joining a sporting team,getting really fit, getting more sunlight, or just plain moving to a nice sunny country with a variation in work might do it.
Jumping in Cessna and going for a flight up the coast in OZ usually fixes the
cobwebs.
There was a poor sod in the left seat not that long ago in the USA who decided to have a rant mid flight but sadly had his mike stuck on, informing the entire cabin plus all the aircraft in his sector plus ATC in great detail how he felt about his career!
A job in safety related management or education may be fullfilling ...at least theres a sense that its meaningfull work.Teaching always felt enjoyable to me.
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Well I sympathise with the OP.My better half was a 744 skipper with a big European outfit,but absolutely despised the job...he loved the people he worked with,and the flying,but hated all the bull that came with it.Sim instructors who were hell bent on catching you out,checking not training etc. He was offered voluntary redundancy almost 2 years ago and never once looked back. People say "Oh surely you must miss the job?" The answer is definately not! He has never had a moment spare since he stopped working so I say if you can afford to leave-do it!! He looks 10 years younger than mates of the same age who are still there,and is nowhere near as stressed..life really is too short..good luck!
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I'm only biting to the bait dangled by the original post, because I've become intrigued by the poster. So saddest aviator, what do you make of the views and opinions posted so far ? Any good advice for you here ? I'm a bit surprised this thread has been going on 2 weeks and no further comment from you.
Was it a bit of a frustrated rant, a genuine appeal for advice or an attempt to start a debate ? You must have a view on what's been written so far, so how about posting a reply !
Personally I've been flying a bizjet for a couple of years and am finding the difficulty in progressing very frustrating. I'm also getting concerned because I dont have an aircraft to fly at the moment. Some company contracts have been lost and one aircraft is mothballed. Having said that, I am an optimist and I have my fingers crossed that the situation in the industry will improve in the next year or two.
My perfect mix of activity is to be doing charters in a jet mixed in with instructing and trial flights in light aircraft. Cant beat flying over the Needles on the Isle of Wight at 1500 ft with a student ! In the airline / commercial field I cant help feeling that you need to cultivate a bullsh*t filter so you can tune out a lot of the cr*p and not let it get to you.
Was it a bit of a frustrated rant, a genuine appeal for advice or an attempt to start a debate ? You must have a view on what's been written so far, so how about posting a reply !
Personally I've been flying a bizjet for a couple of years and am finding the difficulty in progressing very frustrating. I'm also getting concerned because I dont have an aircraft to fly at the moment. Some company contracts have been lost and one aircraft is mothballed. Having said that, I am an optimist and I have my fingers crossed that the situation in the industry will improve in the next year or two.
My perfect mix of activity is to be doing charters in a jet mixed in with instructing and trial flights in light aircraft. Cant beat flying over the Needles on the Isle of Wight at 1500 ft with a student ! In the airline / commercial field I cant help feeling that you need to cultivate a bullsh*t filter so you can tune out a lot of the cr*p and not let it get to you.
In the airline / commercial field I cant help feeling that you need to cultivate a bullsh*t filter so you can tune out a lot of the cr*p and not let it get to you.
Also, remember there is a life outside aviation - even after many years I have a passion for flying but you need something else to maintain your sanity.
As has been said before, keeping in touch with the grass roots of flying is a reality check for many. Give me a light a/c with a half million map on a nice day from the local airfield away from all the banal security checks any day!
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As has been said before, keeping in touch with the grass roots of flying is a reality check for many. Give me a light a/c with a half million map on a nice day from the local airfield away from all the banal security checks any day!
Very idealistic but exactly how will that pay a mortgage, put food on the table and keep the lady of the house happy?
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Sounds to me like the original poster could be at the wrong size base. Some people like small bases and some like large bases- I really don't like small bases - usually lots of arrogant skygods that have lost touch with reality and the worst bit is you can be rostered to fly with them for several days on the trot. Everyone knows your business, wants to know your business, gossips, expects you all to be best mates and if you aren't then you are an outsider. Everyone has an unqualified opinion on each others abilities - its tiresome.Big bases - turn up, do the job, have the same conversation but with a new person, go home and live life - a healthier balance in my opinion.
I could be wrong but you may want to try a simple base swap to get a base of the opposite size to suit your type - do you have a life or do you like to eat, sleep, breath your colleagues?
I could be wrong but you may want to try a simple base swap to get a base of the opposite size to suit your type - do you have a life or do you like to eat, sleep, breath your colleagues?
Yes, I agree, provided you have sufficient income etc. I was only think of it in relation to the circumstances of the OP. Sorry.
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stop to read the s...t on this forum.
this aviation is filled by the most ego stupid people on earth, all is "me me me".
you are all a bunch of egocentric pilots who can not take their responsabilities, this is why there are so many jerks payong their boss with their dad money to get a 6 months job!
yo, pilot, the whole community of aviator, you make me sick!
as long you pay your boss, he will never pay you or hire you, are you blind or stupid to not see that??? do i have to take a hammer and hit your head with it to make you understand?
this concern the morons who pay to work!!!
for my part, I am out of this business.good bye to all morons behind their desk runing their lousy company,I will come back when I receive a real contract in a non unfriendly stinky atmosphere.
this aviation is filled by the most ego stupid people on earth, all is "me me me".
you are all a bunch of egocentric pilots who can not take their responsabilities, this is why there are so many jerks payong their boss with their dad money to get a 6 months job!
yo, pilot, the whole community of aviator, you make me sick!
as long you pay your boss, he will never pay you or hire you, are you blind or stupid to not see that??? do i have to take a hammer and hit your head with it to make you understand?
this concern the morons who pay to work!!!
for my part, I am out of this business.good bye to all morons behind their desk runing their lousy company,I will come back when I receive a real contract in a non unfriendly stinky atmosphere.
