Jet2 Recruiting now
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: London
Posts: 95
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hi
I have 737TR with time on type. Not currently flying and no LPC.
Have been offered, and accepted, a start date this year.
Pretty sure it was a 70% contract (could have mis-heard) but not sure how that works if you are starting in the winter?!
Any ideas?
I have 737TR with time on type. Not currently flying and no LPC.
Have been offered, and accepted, a start date this year.
Pretty sure it was a 70% contract (could have mis-heard) but not sure how that works if you are starting in the winter?!
Any ideas?
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Here I am
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
70%
The 70% contract being offered works on the basis of 70% full Capt/FO salary paid over 12 months. So in essence you are employed all year but to the companies advantage of not using you for the winter.
In this case initial training will commence whenever your start date is, once all ground/sim/line training is complete you will then not fly until your official 70% term so 1st April start on full roster and you will then fly the summer until the 31st Oct.
In this case initial training will commence whenever your start date is, once all ground/sim/line training is complete you will then not fly until your official 70% term so 1st April start on full roster and you will then fly the summer until the 31st Oct.
Join Date: May 2005
Location: SW London
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
That sucks now I'm digesting that info since you've highlighted that, so when you're not working no chance of signing on or going and getting contract work for a few months to keep the wolf from the door?
However these questions may be irrelevant if full contracts are offered at the end of summer 2011 as it looks like has happened this year with Jet2 and TCX.
The 100+ pilots they bring in can't all be put through the sims and line checked together, there is also no point in LPC/OPCing someone not to use them for 3 months because they'd lose their 3 T/O's and landings in the previous 90 days.
However these questions may be irrelevant if full contracts are offered at the end of summer 2011 as it looks like has happened this year with Jet2 and TCX.
The 100+ pilots they bring in can't all be put through the sims and line checked together, there is also no point in LPC/OPCing someone not to use them for 3 months because they'd lose their 3 T/O's and landings in the previous 90 days.
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: London
Posts: 95
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Sorry, I don't really understand.
I have been offered a start date within the next few weeks. Are you telling me that they will train me and then ground me until April?!
I don't think this is very likely. Completely unproductive for them and, of course, no good for me.
Need to consider the 3 T/Os and LDGs, too.
Maybe I will get a 100% contract?!!
I thought everybody would be contacted at the same (or similar) time. I'm surprised more haven't heard.
I have been offered a start date within the next few weeks. Are you telling me that they will train me and then ground me until April?!
I don't think this is very likely. Completely unproductive for them and, of course, no good for me.
Need to consider the 3 T/Os and LDGs, too.
Maybe I will get a 100% contract?!!
I thought everybody would be contacted at the same (or similar) time. I'm surprised more haven't heard.
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Here I am
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Agreed it is early and maybe unproductive but bear in mind that they are recruiting 100 ish people and will need them all trained and ready to go online for the start of April.
Not counting those doing a full type-rating the first course for TR I believe is the end of Nov so line training Dec and possibly into early Jan depending on the number on the course and the fact it is the low season. This then would give them at least upto end March before the 3 T/O, LDG currency issue. So ultimately not that far from the supposed 1st April really!
goaroundnow what is your experience? are you TR already?
Good luck to all who have accepted and hope you enjoy your new comapny.
Not counting those doing a full type-rating the first course for TR I believe is the end of Nov so line training Dec and possibly into early Jan depending on the number on the course and the fact it is the low season. This then would give them at least upto end March before the 3 T/O, LDG currency issue. So ultimately not that far from the supposed 1st April really!
goaroundnow what is your experience? are you TR already?
Good luck to all who have accepted and hope you enjoy your new comapny.
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: London
Posts: 95
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Yes, I am TR'd and with experience on type.
It is not going to take 3-4 months to get me (or someone like me) fully trained, checked and ready to go.
There's no point in starting me so early unless they plan to use me before April.
It is not going to take 3-4 months to get me (or someone like me) fully trained, checked and ready to go.
There's no point in starting me so early unless they plan to use me before April.
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Here I am
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
goaroundnow
My comment earlier was not indicating I knew of what they may do with people but merely what their 70% contract actually is. They may have plans to utilise those crews already rated due to attrition of their existing pilots. If you have been offered a 70% contract then it may be worth asking.
Out of curiosity is your course the one at the end of Nov?
I know there was talk of there being some 100% contracts available but how many??
Line training may still take a while though. As I allured to earlier dependant on numbers and availability of trainers. Still 20 sectors for rated guys plus GND training, SEP training, uniforms etc etc.
Would be interesting to know what their plans are for those guys on the earlier courses.
Either way well done and hope you enjoy.
Out of curiosity is your course the one at the end of Nov?
I know there was talk of there being some 100% contracts available but how many??
Line training may still take a while though. As I allured to earlier dependant on numbers and availability of trainers. Still 20 sectors for rated guys plus GND training, SEP training, uniforms etc etc.
Would be interesting to know what their plans are for those guys on the earlier courses.
Either way well done and hope you enjoy.
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: England
Posts: 343
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hi,
I start training pretty soon with jet 2 and will be finished TR by christmas. I am an ex heavy jet guy and I have been told I only need 20 sectors (I take it this means 10 return trips) I then fully expect not to be needed very much until the start of April. The biggest problem for Jet2 at the moment seems to be scheduling the required training sectors for the new guys while also keeping their 100% guys fully employed over the winter.
Taxi-driver is correct in that there are differing contracts depending on your skills and experience i.e. 100% or 70% Pay for all of TR, some of TR or a bond.
Regards
I start training pretty soon with jet 2 and will be finished TR by christmas. I am an ex heavy jet guy and I have been told I only need 20 sectors (I take it this means 10 return trips) I then fully expect not to be needed very much until the start of April. The biggest problem for Jet2 at the moment seems to be scheduling the required training sectors for the new guys while also keeping their 100% guys fully employed over the winter.
Taxi-driver is correct in that there are differing contracts depending on your skills and experience i.e. 100% or 70% Pay for all of TR, some of TR or a bond.
Regards
Join Date: May 2005
Location: SW London
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Most people who were interviewed are currently acting like a coiled spring waiting on a 0113 number to show up on their mobiles after being told that we were going to find out this time last week.
Personally I don't blame goaroundnow for not delving deeper, he's not been flying for a while and the excitement maybe took over asking those pertinent questions.
I reckon it maybe down to fill the attrition rather than the summer 2011 intake. From what you're posting so far I'm guessing you are living nearby one of their bases and available immediately - that would tie in with Jet2's track record. Hope its a 100% contract, can't see them bringing you in re-newing you then having to do it again a 3 months later.
I was under the impression the 2011 intake would be on courses starting in March, April and then May, with the last group possibly being on the line in mid June (seems a little late).
however as I've said before, I'm don't have a clue what they are up to, it's pretty haphazard from what I've gleaned and wasted too many brain cells trying to second guess them.
Personally I don't blame goaroundnow for not delving deeper, he's not been flying for a while and the excitement maybe took over asking those pertinent questions.
I reckon it maybe down to fill the attrition rather than the summer 2011 intake. From what you're posting so far I'm guessing you are living nearby one of their bases and available immediately - that would tie in with Jet2's track record. Hope its a 100% contract, can't see them bringing you in re-newing you then having to do it again a 3 months later.
I was under the impression the 2011 intake would be on courses starting in March, April and then May, with the last group possibly being on the line in mid June (seems a little late).
however as I've said before, I'm don't have a clue what they are up to, it's pretty haphazard from what I've gleaned and wasted too many brain cells trying to second guess them.
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: London
Posts: 95
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hi
Basically the excitement did take-over a bit.
The confusion more lies in that, in hindsight, I think I heard the words 70 and 100!!
It doesn't bother me anyway. I am not flying (and haven't been for more than a year) and 70% is still 200% of my current salary.
I do not live locally to any of their bases (not even in the vicinity)!
Just be nice to get back flying again.
I am sure the contract will make things clear(ish)! I assume one gets paid (whether 70 or 100%) from Day 1. I don't much care for the Ryanair philosophy - only being paid once you're making the company money (i.e. after the safety pilot disappears).
Basically the excitement did take-over a bit.
The confusion more lies in that, in hindsight, I think I heard the words 70 and 100!!
It doesn't bother me anyway. I am not flying (and haven't been for more than a year) and 70% is still 200% of my current salary.
I do not live locally to any of their bases (not even in the vicinity)!
Just be nice to get back flying again.
I am sure the contract will make things clear(ish)! I assume one gets paid (whether 70 or 100%) from Day 1. I don't much care for the Ryanair philosophy - only being paid once you're making the company money (i.e. after the safety pilot disappears).
Interestingly enough; when I came out of Mrs Windsor's Transport Command in 1979, I fancied joining Fred Laker's excellent airline.
I was accepted as an F/O on the DC-10 (at no cost to me) but on a training salary of £4000 pa.
It is my memory that we had to check out on the DC-10 in 12 sectors (mind you, each sector could be at least 10 hours long) or else you were in trouble.
I can well remember that one F/O took more than 12 sectors and who subsequently was not really a wonderful asset to anyone's flight deck but he was very much the exception to the rule.
The interesting thing was that when Fred went down the tubes and all of us were scrabbling for jobs, the one that got job after job was the man mentioned above!
I often wondered what finally happened to him (or his passengers) but he was a classic example of bull**** baffling brains!
I was accepted as an F/O on the DC-10 (at no cost to me) but on a training salary of £4000 pa.
It is my memory that we had to check out on the DC-10 in 12 sectors (mind you, each sector could be at least 10 hours long) or else you were in trouble.
I can well remember that one F/O took more than 12 sectors and who subsequently was not really a wonderful asset to anyone's flight deck but he was very much the exception to the rule.
The interesting thing was that when Fred went down the tubes and all of us were scrabbling for jobs, the one that got job after job was the man mentioned above!
I often wondered what finally happened to him (or his passengers) but he was a classic example of bull**** baffling brains!
Last edited by JW411; 28th Oct 2010 at 15:45.
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: wherever they send me
Age: 49
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Nothing heard again today, and, in order to fulfill their promise to inform everyone by the end of the week, we should expect a phone call tomorrow.
Quite fitting that they will call you on payday......
Quite fitting that they will call you on payday......
By the way, does PM still hold "Morning Prayers" (like he was taught when he was a Hunter pilot in the RAF at 0900 every morning)?
I remember walking into the Channex Ops Room one morning (having just done a sub-service for them) at Bournemouth and PM was in full flight. He was tearing the arse out of a Herald crew that had been 20 minutes late (or something quite so trivial) and I found this quite embarrassing to witness.
I swore blind that I would rather go down the London sewers rather than work for such a pillock.
I remember walking into the Channex Ops Room one morning (having just done a sub-service for them) at Bournemouth and PM was in full flight. He was tearing the arse out of a Herald crew that had been 20 minutes late (or something quite so trivial) and I found this quite embarrassing to witness.
I swore blind that I would rather go down the London sewers rather than work for such a pillock.
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Scotland
Age: 52
Posts: 164
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Has anyone been offered a 100% deal?
Also, and clarification on the 70%, if you subsequently get kept on after Oct? ie do you get the 30% that you worked for, but didn't get paid for, as a lump sum.
Good luck to all who hope to hear something today.
Also, and clarification on the 70%, if you subsequently get kept on after Oct? ie do you get the 30% that you worked for, but didn't get paid for, as a lump sum.
Good luck to all who hope to hear something today.
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Damn Foggy Isle
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It sounds as though the deals offered vary and depend on your qualifications. Historically Jet2 have not given employment contracts to anyone requiring the type rating until the type is on your licence. Whatever they offer you until then may change until you have the type rating and receive the contract to sign.
As for changing you from part-time (70% or whatever) to full-time 100% at the end of the summer period, I believe those currently in this situation are not being given any back pay. So basically Jet2 have had some cheap formally part-time now full-time pilots this last summer - no doubt something they may do again.
As for changing you from part-time (70% or whatever) to full-time 100% at the end of the summer period, I believe those currently in this situation are not being given any back pay. So basically Jet2 have had some cheap formally part-time now full-time pilots this last summer - no doubt something they may do again.