Air Mauritius defies IFALPA
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Jeez!
This whole thing really makes even the election of George Dubya Bush look like an amateurs joke! Got to keep the whole story away from Dubya or els he might hire PB as his personal adviser on how to face the weather in DC... That would be REALLY bad for the whole world. But would be good for Russlan and MALPA and AEA and the whole company!
This whole thing really makes even the election of George Dubya Bush look like an amateurs joke! Got to keep the whole story away from Dubya or els he might hire PB as his personal adviser on how to face the weather in DC... That would be REALLY bad for the whole world. But would be good for Russlan and MALPA and AEA and the whole company!
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JUst want to say that I am sorry this thread had to be moved. Yeah, there are indeed some hot heads out there, and some hot feelings, but the fact is there's no smoke without fire. Whilst I do appreciate that it gotta bit out of line... !!!???!!! there was stuff that had to be said. (sorry folks)
I think this MK stuff needs to be read in conjunction with the Ryanair comments because there's an unhappy similarity in the nature of their complaints, (no matter how they express them). I also think that, as an industry, we need an IFALPA with teeth (and clout) that can represent our best interests throughout the world, and forceful enough that industry must listen. I guess our energy could be best used supporting IFALPA to support us.
I think this MK stuff needs to be read in conjunction with the Ryanair comments because there's an unhappy similarity in the nature of their complaints, (no matter how they express them). I also think that, as an industry, we need an IFALPA with teeth (and clout) that can represent our best interests throughout the world, and forceful enough that industry must listen. I guess our energy could be best used supporting IFALPA to support us.
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Never quite understood this moderator thing. Anyhow, its sad to see this thread relinquished to the back stop spread. Is the hope that nobody will read it? I don’t know what was written however the message here is be nice or else. We sit in our ivory towers and judge, how dare we minimise the sufferings of individuals by doing such a thing. Sitting in your first world country with laws and justice on your side how can you aspire to coming close to understand what our colleagues in the third world endure. Shameful I say. Life is not about one law fits all, its about adapt or perish. In this regard this site is doing nothing for the common cause. Let it be said, I say, no matter how apparently hurtful. These people hide behind anonymity for a good reason.
In ending I will say to qnh 1015. You are adopting the same typical stereotype behaviour of a despotic African leader called Bob. It seems to proliferate in this part of the world. Its fine for you to criticise because you are of that ethnicity. But lo and behold any body else try to question then he is a racist bigot. From your thread I gather that I have the same flying hours as you have in lifetime years. MK would not be if it weren’t for SAA jocks as you put it . You guys are still using the same SOP’s established by these same jocks. Snot nosed ingrate comes to mind. I believe in this cause and as such put finger to keyboard in the aspiration that these maniacs running MK would see the error of their ways and calm down. However between the foolish behaviour of people like you and the one’s dooming this thread all that remains is to shake ones head and continue life without this aggravation. A sad day indeed!
In ending I will say to qnh 1015. You are adopting the same typical stereotype behaviour of a despotic African leader called Bob. It seems to proliferate in this part of the world. Its fine for you to criticise because you are of that ethnicity. But lo and behold any body else try to question then he is a racist bigot. From your thread I gather that I have the same flying hours as you have in lifetime years. MK would not be if it weren’t for SAA jocks as you put it . You guys are still using the same SOP’s established by these same jocks. Snot nosed ingrate comes to mind. I believe in this cause and as such put finger to keyboard in the aspiration that these maniacs running MK would see the error of their ways and calm down. However between the foolish behaviour of people like you and the one’s dooming this thread all that remains is to shake ones head and continue life without this aggravation. A sad day indeed!
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Hear hear Fuzzy Duck. Could not agree more. Leaves me wondering how racist rantings get left alone, yet the cold hard truth suffers.
Cheers to all. I think this thread will now suffer the same fate as the dodo.
Shame!!!
Cheers to all. I think this thread will now suffer the same fate as the dodo.
Shame!!!
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Hi all!
I have been requested by maxmotoring to put a post for him as he has been banned from the forum. Hope he gets reinstated soon. Hope that the President gets reinstated too!
I will urge Danny or whoever of the moderators to return this thread to the Rumours and News. I understand it is very improtant for the people whi have to work and live with that kind of
downthere without much help or protection. I don't think that the African Union has got the power or will of the EU...
These guys need some serious help. Lets start by helping them here, on PPruNe
I have been requested by maxmotoring to put a post for him as he has been banned from the forum. Hope he gets reinstated soon. Hope that the President gets reinstated too!
I will urge Danny or whoever of the moderators to return this thread to the Rumours and News. I understand it is very improtant for the people whi have to work and live with that kind of
downthere without much help or protection. I don't think that the African Union has got the power or will of the EU...These guys need some serious help. Lets start by helping them here, on PPruNe
Sorry mate. Need your urgent help. Been banned form this forum.Could you please post this on my behalf mate! It is VERY important. Ta mate!
It is with great regret that I see that this forum has been moved.
Dear Danny, I will agree with some of the previous posts that this was indeed a VERY important discussion. Thing shappening on this side of teh world will create Aviaiton Industry precedents and the impact will be a negative one on the WHOLE pilot community, be it in the Americas, Europe, Asia or Africa. The trends is to see a new much more agressive style of management emerging. You SIMPLY do not have any idea what we people working over here have got to put up with. Look at Ryanair. It is in Ireland, there is the EU jurisdiction to look after that, and even then, things are REALLY not good. Overhear, a poor chap has stood up for the others for ones and deffied a very somber and nasty individual and his stooges. We need our voice to be heard, we need the support and help of the rest of the pilot community. I am sure that after your post, someone realised that they can threaten you and probably did so... I don't know, but these people go around scaring everyone. This is why the voices prefer to stay anonymous... Or else, I would be the next victim of the system. Fuzzyduck is retired, others have gone. Some of us cannot afford at this stage of our life to change countries because the kids are in school... If we had other job options on this island, we would have "voted with our feet" as some many have already done a long time ago.
Dear Danny, I will agree with some of the previous posts that this was indeed a VERY important discussion. Thing shappening on this side of teh world will create Aviaiton Industry precedents and the impact will be a negative one on the WHOLE pilot community, be it in the Americas, Europe, Asia or Africa. The trends is to see a new much more agressive style of management emerging. You SIMPLY do not have any idea what we people working over here have got to put up with. Look at Ryanair. It is in Ireland, there is the EU jurisdiction to look after that, and even then, things are REALLY not good. Overhear, a poor chap has stood up for the others for ones and deffied a very somber and nasty individual and his stooges. We need our voice to be heard, we need the support and help of the rest of the pilot community. I am sure that after your post, someone realised that they can threaten you and probably did so... I don't know, but these people go around scaring everyone. This is why the voices prefer to stay anonymous... Or else, I would be the next victim of the system. Fuzzyduck is retired, others have gone. Some of us cannot afford at this stage of our life to change countries because the kids are in school... If we had other job options on this island, we would have "voted with our feet" as some many have already done a long time ago.
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Hi Fuzzyduck and everyone here!
Sorry Fuzzyduck if I got a few of your feathers in knots... I did not mean to be disrespectful or whatever to anyone. I just gave my honnest evaluation of the whole thing. And BTW, I hate Bob, just like anyone else. My comments is that in the good old days, everyone called the SA led flight ops team the enemy... Today, it is the Mauritians who discriminate against their own, and they are the new enemy... It is totally absurd! I have a lot of repsect for all the SA boys who are good and straight. I've had my own share of trouble with some of the nasty specimens... But what I see today is truely sad and disheartening.
On another sad note, I see that this post got moved. I agree with Fuzzyduck and all the others to see that this got moved and now almost forgotten... By sweaping the dust under the carpet, the situation will definitley not get resolved.
Danny, can I ask: are you a pilot? I would like to know if you have ever known, even remotely, what all the folk here are talking about? Living with a true tyran is NOT fun, expecially the guy who is on the ground. In the case of Russlan, that has been 2 months+... Please, I will ask you too to move this forum back where it was. And I agree with the others when they say that what is happening in Air Mauritius will impact aviation around the globe, and the whole pilot community will pay for that in the not too distant future. I will still have a few years of career, but all the others, you will have to live with that for 20+ years...
Sorry Fuzzyduck if I got a few of your feathers in knots... I did not mean to be disrespectful or whatever to anyone. I just gave my honnest evaluation of the whole thing. And BTW, I hate Bob, just like anyone else. My comments is that in the good old days, everyone called the SA led flight ops team the enemy... Today, it is the Mauritians who discriminate against their own, and they are the new enemy... It is totally absurd! I have a lot of repsect for all the SA boys who are good and straight. I've had my own share of trouble with some of the nasty specimens... But what I see today is truely sad and disheartening.
On another sad note, I see that this post got moved. I agree with Fuzzyduck and all the others to see that this got moved and now almost forgotten... By sweaping the dust under the carpet, the situation will definitley not get resolved.
Danny, can I ask: are you a pilot? I would like to know if you have ever known, even remotely, what all the folk here are talking about? Living with a true tyran is NOT fun, expecially the guy who is on the ground. In the case of Russlan, that has been 2 months+... Please, I will ask you too to move this forum back where it was. And I agree with the others when they say that what is happening in Air Mauritius will impact aviation around the globe, and the whole pilot community will pay for that in the not too distant future. I will still have a few years of career, but all the others, you will have to live with that for 20+ years...
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The thread was moved because of the pathetic level the 'debate' had descended to.
It is a very important topic but where it is placed on the site is entirely controlled by the quality and content of what you guys post. I won't rub it in as it is becoming very apparent that the 'training' is paying off. For those still bristling over it you really should consider just what you guys have done, built or achieved in creating somewhere the aviation world can hear of your problems.
Regards from the Towers
It is a very important topic but where it is placed on the site is entirely controlled by the quality and content of what you guys post. I won't rub it in as it is becoming very apparent that the 'training' is paying off. For those still bristling over it you really should consider just what you guys have done, built or achieved in creating somewhere the aviation world can hear of your problems.
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Hi Danny & Pprunetowers,
I think both points of view do have their relevance. I do agree that tempers did flare up as one of ours got unjustly suspended.
I also agree that "sweeping it under the carpet " won't help either
The reason this site is anonymous is justly because retribution
comes fast should you wish to express your views via the proper channel....
What is sauce for the goose is not necessarily sauce for the gander .What Qnh1015 pointed out is true ! what seems a simple matter for you guys is 50 light years away in Air leg for us in the third world.
If things were that easy robert Mugabe would have been hanged & quartered long ago... also the Iraq war would have been totally unnecessary...
I rest my case...
I think both points of view do have their relevance. I do agree that tempers did flare up as one of ours got unjustly suspended.
I also agree that "sweeping it under the carpet " won't help either
The reason this site is anonymous is justly because retribution
comes fast should you wish to express your views via the proper channel....
What is sauce for the goose is not necessarily sauce for the gander .What Qnh1015 pointed out is true ! what seems a simple matter for you guys is 50 light years away in Air leg for us in the third world.
If things were that easy robert Mugabe would have been hanged & quartered long ago... also the Iraq war would have been totally unnecessary...
I rest my case...
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OK everyone!
We all agree that seems to be a very important thread. Good! We all have taken note that if the contents and debate go south, it will be of no help to the poor chap hangin' out there to dry. BTW, any news on him? An update from someone would be apprciated, even by email or privatemsg...
So, if we all agree to behave, how about having another chance to have this moved back into a 1st line debate for a third world problem? Towers? Danny? I think the guys will behave now.
They should have copied the msg 5/5
Thank you Towers and Danny for bringing this back to life, there where it truely belongs, for what happens down there will be what guides the rest of the industry in the futur...
People, PLEASE BEHAVE! That would be such a shame if the debate goes \"south\" again... There\'s a poor chap\'s head hanging in the noose down under (well not quite that far, but still in the S hemiglobe). If only for his sake, do keep it professional/decent.
MALPA, hope your president feels like Lazarus soon too!!! Good luck chaps
We all agree that seems to be a very important thread. Good! We all have taken note that if the contents and debate go south, it will be of no help to the poor chap hangin' out there to dry. BTW, any news on him? An update from someone would be apprciated, even by email or privatemsg...
So, if we all agree to behave, how about having another chance to have this moved back into a 1st line debate for a third world problem? Towers? Danny? I think the guys will behave now.
They should have copied the msg 5/5
Thank you Towers and Danny for bringing this back to life, there where it truely belongs, for what happens down there will be what guides the rest of the industry in the futur...
People, PLEASE BEHAVE! That would be such a shame if the debate goes \"south\" again... There\'s a poor chap\'s head hanging in the noose down under (well not quite that far, but still in the S hemiglobe). If only for his sake, do keep it professional/decent.
MALPA, hope your president feels like Lazarus soon too!!! Good luck chaps
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I would be tempted to say What the hell?"... I went to T.o.E and saw it got moved and thought where to now...
I would like to thank the "moderators" and also all the people on this forum 2 actually realize how premordial is this debate and to stay "politically correct"... There is a lot at stake here!
So, latest has it that Russlan is still grounded. Spirits still up, status quo for the rest.
Asta la victoria, siempre! Viva el compagniero!
I would like to thank the "moderators" and also all the people on this forum 2 actually realize how premordial is this debate and to stay "politically correct"... There is a lot at stake here!
So, latest has it that Russlan is still grounded. Spirits still up, status quo for the rest.
Asta la victoria, siempre! Viva el compagniero!
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Good to see that things are bak to normal except for the President still on teh rope drying out...
I would like to thank the moderators for their reviewing their opinions! That sthe way ahead in any relatioship I would think...
If MK would do the same for Russ, that would be really good!!! The new bosses being Hindu, would they really want to start the new year with that kind of problem at the back? Would they want to fire Russ?
at this stage, that is a very good omen for the soucres, spirits, and people of good will!
I would like to thank the moderators for their reviewing their opinions! That sthe way ahead in any relatioship I would think...
If MK would do the same for Russ, that would be really good!!! The new bosses being Hindu, would they really want to start the new year with that kind of problem at the back? Would they want to fire Russ?
at this stage, that is a very good omen for the soucres, spirits, and people of good will!
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ok! we've all promised to be good little boys, including your's truly.
Now what ??...
Forget Mk. How about turning the heat & get IFALPA moving?
We got a nice letter coupla weeks back ,then what ? are we past history already ?...
If anybody has email addresses of the guys running IFALPA they might come in handy. Going through their website could be a long process...
Russlan still in good spirits, thanks for asking. Heard he checks this site regularly, so keep the posts coming in...
fuzzyduck, Qnh1015, Knock it off ! SA Bob & PB both have their pros & cons. Don't waste energy on "apartheid" debates whetver Mauritian or else. The time of reckoning will come soon enough.
please focus both your energies on the problem at hand, I'm sure your combined punch can equal the Springbok pack !...
Now what ??...
Forget Mk. How about turning the heat & get IFALPA moving?
We got a nice letter coupla weeks back ,then what ? are we past history already ?...
If anybody has email addresses of the guys running IFALPA they might come in handy. Going through their website could be a long process...
Russlan still in good spirits, thanks for asking. Heard he checks this site regularly, so keep the posts coming in...
fuzzyduck, Qnh1015, Knock it off ! SA Bob & PB both have their pros & cons. Don't waste energy on "apartheid" debates whetver Mauritian or else. The time of reckoning will come soon enough.
please focus both your energies on the problem at hand, I'm sure your combined punch can equal the Springbok pack !...
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I had just de-corked a great vintage red and heard that this thread was put back where it deserves. That is indeed good news.
Funny old place Mauritius. It is probably one of the most democratic well integrated societies that I have ever had the pleasure to deal with, all sorts of nationalities co-existing in relative ease and acceptance. What is troubling is how MK can descend to such depths of despair because of a hand full of lunatics at the helm. Why has the local political machine not set into motion and rid the airline of this scourge. I had the pleasure of talking to a few friends who have ties to the Island and they say that MK has lost many pilots over the last few years. If memory serves me, one of the Prime Ministers got kicked out of office because of a racial slur that was overheard by a journalist. Are these jokers beyond even that man? Surely not. PBany is a political animal. I distinctly remember many a night discussing Mauritian politics with him whilst cruising at FL 450 decimal 88, whilst RAppah was making soup in the galley. Would this not be a way to defuse his monopoly?
These guys are single handedly taking a world class job and botching it to no end. Shame on you all.
Oh yes and this same ace wanted to take flaps at fl300 doing 280 knots. Total loss of situational awareness going into Geneva as they changed the arrival on them, leaving them hot and high. I was not number one however one of my best mates were.
As I have said before, decidedly average in the flight deck and proving to be the same as a manager.
Funny old place Mauritius. It is probably one of the most democratic well integrated societies that I have ever had the pleasure to deal with, all sorts of nationalities co-existing in relative ease and acceptance. What is troubling is how MK can descend to such depths of despair because of a hand full of lunatics at the helm. Why has the local political machine not set into motion and rid the airline of this scourge. I had the pleasure of talking to a few friends who have ties to the Island and they say that MK has lost many pilots over the last few years. If memory serves me, one of the Prime Ministers got kicked out of office because of a racial slur that was overheard by a journalist. Are these jokers beyond even that man? Surely not. PBany is a political animal. I distinctly remember many a night discussing Mauritian politics with him whilst cruising at FL 450 decimal 88, whilst RAppah was making soup in the galley. Would this not be a way to defuse his monopoly?
These guys are single handedly taking a world class job and botching it to no end. Shame on you all.
Oh yes and this same ace wanted to take flaps at fl300 doing 280 knots. Total loss of situational awareness going into Geneva as they changed the arrival on them, leaving them hot and high. I was not number one however one of my best mates were.
As I have said before, decidedly average in the flight deck and proving to be the same as a manager.
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Hey, Fuzzyduck ! remember when RApp accidentally activated the O2 masks release in the cabin ? What a corker !
Talk about another political animal ...only difference is that this customer is smarter, much smarter ...
If you want PB's political insight read Dingduck2 prev page3
Talk about another political animal ...only difference is that this customer is smarter, much smarter ...
If you want PB's political insight read Dingduck2 prev page3
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If anyone has had time to pick up todays Flight International there's an article on page 9 about this situation and whilst it does, inevitably, contain some inaccuracies, it lgives a thumbnail sketch of what is happening down there and allows the MD to once again publicly assert in print that MK is lilly white. On the positive side, IFALPA quotes are the only ones that resemble the truth.
What was truly sickening however, was a call I got this morning telling me to go online and check the local paper, L'express, where there is an article regarding same, which, (hope you can read French) is, frankly, such an obsecene distortion of the facts, it has to be a plant. Further, Russlan is referred to constantly, throughout the piece and painted in such a bad light that he comes across as having singkle handedly tried to wage war against the purer than pure MK, for no apparant reason, AND for his troubles, that 'he has been de-rostered since last year.'
This has to be an example of such bad journalism that is is verging on libel (in some countries there would be no contest) or management has a friend, whose son, whose wife's cousin, (etc etc etc ) wortks at L'express.
Read it and weep. Russlan has to live and work on this island. His family lives there. His only crime was to ask IFALPA for clarification on the complaints he was receiving from his membership. Let us not forget that this original email was intercepted and has ever since been used against him. Today its Russlan, tomorrow it could be you or me.
IFALPA, you've been great thus far, but this one aint over. Nothing, but nothing, not mauritian labour law, not common decency are protecting this guy. MK are really playing dirty now and when the poo hits the proverbial fan, whose there to help him. IFALPA, bring out the cavalry... he needs it.
What was truly sickening however, was a call I got this morning telling me to go online and check the local paper, L'express, where there is an article regarding same, which, (hope you can read French) is, frankly, such an obsecene distortion of the facts, it has to be a plant. Further, Russlan is referred to constantly, throughout the piece and painted in such a bad light that he comes across as having singkle handedly tried to wage war against the purer than pure MK, for no apparant reason, AND for his troubles, that 'he has been de-rostered since last year.'
This has to be an example of such bad journalism that is is verging on libel (in some countries there would be no contest) or management has a friend, whose son, whose wife's cousin, (etc etc etc ) wortks at L'express.
Read it and weep. Russlan has to live and work on this island. His family lives there. His only crime was to ask IFALPA for clarification on the complaints he was receiving from his membership. Let us not forget that this original email was intercepted and has ever since been used against him. Today its Russlan, tomorrow it could be you or me.
IFALPA, you've been great thus far, but this one aint over. Nothing, but nothing, not mauritian labour law, not common decency are protecting this guy. MK are really playing dirty now and when the poo hits the proverbial fan, whose there to help him. IFALPA, bring out the cavalry... he needs it.
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L'Express prints a weekly news summary in English every Tuesday. If this garbage shows it's face next tuesday we should copy it to our friends overseas, maybe then their eyes might open slightly...
Unbelievable what a supposedly independent sheet would do to be in MK's good graces.
Unbelievable what a supposedly independent sheet would do to be in MK's good graces.
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So boys and girls!
What's the latest? Anyone with some translation skills for that article? Hope that the moral is improving. Am told that the expats are busy negotiating with AM and they say that the new boss sounds very positive. At least that much is good news for the general ambience. But did not hear anything about the locals.
What's the latest? Anyone with some translation skills for that article? Hope that the moral is improving. Am told that the expats are busy negotiating with AM and they say that the new boss sounds very positive. At least that much is good news for the general ambience. But did not hear anything about the locals.
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So what about the rumour that the CAA came down there and did an audit or investigation and found the company to be operating within all regulations. I hear that the CAA themselves have some irregularities amongst their people. It appears that the fighting question about 'Contactable" was finally cleared up.
I hear that the CAA may have shot themselves in the foot. Guys tell me that for long time CAA have been saying that it's a duty day, until this one guy came down there and said it was not. Can anyone elaborate about the consequences this will have on your roster? More importantly where does IFALPA and BALPA stand now? In our company it has always been a duty day, so this could have repercussion for us and elsewhere im sure!!!
Now that this is cleared up can anyone tell us if RR is back on the roster again?
Without sounding too sentimental, Im sure many guys would agree with me. A few years ago this company was probably one of the best one could work for. Whatever happened to that company? they always had their little problems, but which company doesnt? At the end if the day, troubles aside, it was enjoyable but I see now that things are different. I hope you guys can group together and make a change for the better.
I hear that the CAA may have shot themselves in the foot. Guys tell me that for long time CAA have been saying that it's a duty day, until this one guy came down there and said it was not. Can anyone elaborate about the consequences this will have on your roster? More importantly where does IFALPA and BALPA stand now? In our company it has always been a duty day, so this could have repercussion for us and elsewhere im sure!!!
Now that this is cleared up can anyone tell us if RR is back on the roster again?
Without sounding too sentimental, Im sure many guys would agree with me. A few years ago this company was probably one of the best one could work for. Whatever happened to that company? they always had their little problems, but which company doesnt? At the end if the day, troubles aside, it was enjoyable but I see now that things are different. I hope you guys can group together and make a change for the better.
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Rough translation of some of the salient points in direct quotes:
The article starts by saying that "RR spread panic last year. Today he's facing a boomerang"
"Given the gravity of his accusations the DCA had no choice but to ask the UK CAA to investigate, who sent Mr. David Gibb, an expert on the matter"
"Mr Gibb's report was submitted to the DCA and exonerated MK on 4 of the 5 points raised by RR"
"With regards to the 5th, Mr Gibb recommended a change to procedures to avoid any further risk of confusion"
"Those who have seen the report state that it's only a question of semantics"
"RR has been suspended from duty since last year"
"MK has not yet received the report from the CAA. However, it is clear that the conclusions of Mr. David Gibb are forceful enough to now sanction RR"
"The Mauritius Trade Union Council feels that the suspension of RR amounts to intimidation. The Federation is of the opinion that MK puts too much pressure on pilots regarding their flying hours"
"Whilst admitting that MKs method of calculating flight time is based on the British model, Nirvan Veersamy, MD MK, stated catagorically that "Our methods of calculation adhere strictly to those of the CAA. They have been approved by the DCA which is our local regulator. The allegations of the union are without foundation""
All of the above are direct quotes. Go figure!!!
The article starts by saying that "RR spread panic last year. Today he's facing a boomerang"
"Given the gravity of his accusations the DCA had no choice but to ask the UK CAA to investigate, who sent Mr. David Gibb, an expert on the matter"
"Mr Gibb's report was submitted to the DCA and exonerated MK on 4 of the 5 points raised by RR"
"With regards to the 5th, Mr Gibb recommended a change to procedures to avoid any further risk of confusion"
"Those who have seen the report state that it's only a question of semantics"
"RR has been suspended from duty since last year"
"MK has not yet received the report from the CAA. However, it is clear that the conclusions of Mr. David Gibb are forceful enough to now sanction RR"
"The Mauritius Trade Union Council feels that the suspension of RR amounts to intimidation. The Federation is of the opinion that MK puts too much pressure on pilots regarding their flying hours"
"Whilst admitting that MKs method of calculating flight time is based on the British model, Nirvan Veersamy, MD MK, stated catagorically that "Our methods of calculation adhere strictly to those of the CAA. They have been approved by the DCA which is our local regulator. The allegations of the union are without foundation""
All of the above are direct quotes. Go figure!!!
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As far as I am concerned I think that Gibb character has been puffing the magic dragon... maybe it's counted as "flying" duty now in the UK !...
As I remember, this whole stuff started when union members complained that AM was twisting their arms to perform flights exceeding their duty . So, logically since DCA has now publicly disavowed us & thrown us in the lion den I think MALPA & AEA should go back to those members & ask them to come forward.
If their figures add up & of course thse will tally those kept by AM we should know who is lying once & for all...
Also judging by the translation of this article RR looks like the weakest link...
I hope MALPA & AEA will quickly issue a statement on this garbage newspaper article & refute all the nonsense in it
As I remember, this whole stuff started when union members complained that AM was twisting their arms to perform flights exceeding their duty . So, logically since DCA has now publicly disavowed us & thrown us in the lion den I think MALPA & AEA should go back to those members & ask them to come forward.
If their figures add up & of course thse will tally those kept by AM we should know who is lying once & for all...
Also judging by the translation of this article RR looks like the weakest link...
I hope MALPA & AEA will quickly issue a statement on this garbage newspaper article & refute all the nonsense in it