PAL Pilot Exodus
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d6
hey delta 6
I see that you're from "down under", how's the aviation scene there? are you an airline pilot? how did you start there? just curious, im still trying to pursue a flying career here in Canada, there could be lots of similarities as to both countries were part of Her Majesty's Crown, and also we're both pinoys. cheers
I see that you're from "down under", how's the aviation scene there? are you an airline pilot? how did you start there? just curious, im still trying to pursue a flying career here in Canada, there could be lots of similarities as to both countries were part of Her Majesty's Crown, and also we're both pinoys. cheers
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Hi M1911
GA here is dying a slow death, if not already dead in the major cities like Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne and Adelaide. Although, training is still going on. Not a lot of locals though.
There are a lot of work for GA in the outback on a seasonal basis, 6 months of the year, enough to fill your log book, although CAO states that the max hours you can fly in a year is 900 hours, you can basically expect 60 hours a month on singles and twins (approx. 360hrs for 6 months ), then instructing for the rest of the year on crappy salary, even with multi-engine instructing.
Airlines still have the upper hand in selecting "suitable" candidates as it is still their market. Hopefully the tide is turning as the requirements for Captains now have been reduced to 3,000 hours only and they can now see that there will be a shortage of pilots in the near future. QF and the other LCCs doesn't seem to let up in buying or leasing their new toys.
I can't tell you much about myself on this forum for obvious reasons.
Anonymity is the whole idea that is afforded by a pseudonym, however, just PM me and let me know who you are.
D6
GA here is dying a slow death, if not already dead in the major cities like Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne and Adelaide. Although, training is still going on. Not a lot of locals though.
There are a lot of work for GA in the outback on a seasonal basis, 6 months of the year, enough to fill your log book, although CAO states that the max hours you can fly in a year is 900 hours, you can basically expect 60 hours a month on singles and twins (approx. 360hrs for 6 months ), then instructing for the rest of the year on crappy salary, even with multi-engine instructing.
Airlines still have the upper hand in selecting "suitable" candidates as it is still their market. Hopefully the tide is turning as the requirements for Captains now have been reduced to 3,000 hours only and they can now see that there will be a shortage of pilots in the near future. QF and the other LCCs doesn't seem to let up in buying or leasing their new toys.
I can't tell you much about myself on this forum for obvious reasons.
Anonymity is the whole idea that is afforded by a pseudonym, however, just PM me and let me know who you are.
D6
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buy a c-172
HMMM....
anybody have kids wanting to buy a 172, get them build time here and then get a sim type on the 320???
di ba mas feasible than spending millions in avshcool and clark?
thanks
anybody have kids wanting to buy a 172, get them build time here and then get a sim type on the 320???
di ba mas feasible than spending millions in avshcool and clark?
thanks
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Concerning foreign ATPL and conversion to the United States is pretty easy, so easy it's basically ridiculous.
Foreign Pilot Certificate Conversions (FAR 61.75):
In order to convert your foreign pilot certificates and ratings to FAA pilot certificates and ratings you must accomplish the following:
Foreign Pilot Certificate Conversions (FAR 61.75):
In order to convert your foreign pilot certificates and ratings to FAA pilot certificates and ratings you must accomplish the following:
- Bring a valid government issued photo ID
- Bring original foreign pilot certificates and ratings.
- Bring foreign pilot medical andor FAA issued medical certficate (minimum class III).
- Fill out and bring to the examiner a letter of Verification or authenticity of foreign license, rating, and medical certification which is issued by the FAA to verify foreign pilot certificate and ratings held.
The process of obtaining the letter of verification of foreign licenses from the FAA may take several weeks so plan in advance. - if you want instrument rating priviliges on your FAA license issued on the basis of your foreign pilot license, you must take a IRA (Instrument Rating written test for foreign pilots conversions).
- Complete an online IACRA or a Paper copy FAA 8710 Form and bring it to the examiner.
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Guys,
Being a pilot really needs hardwork, dedication and money. If you are really filthy rich, go to PALavschool or CIA. If you don't have that much, go to any flying school in genav. Now if you really can't afford and flying is your passion, go to PAF.
If you fly in avschool/CIA - expensive and a possibility of an airline job right away.
Gen.Av - not that expensive but does'nt guarantee an airline job right away, but if you get lucky and have connections then it is really for you. You can be a Flight Instructor, cargo or charter pilot for a while. Fly for a couple of years to gain much needed experience and hours then apply for a better company.
PAF - only for the disciplined and determined. Standards are very high and training is vigorous. If you made it and survived, then you are one of the best...or the best, eventhough our PAF is not in par with the rest. Most of the airlines prefer pilots from PAF.
Being an A/P mechanic is not bad especially if you work with a good airline company. Pay is good and can definitely support your family.
It's really up to you guys on what direction you want to go. Keep on asking people with experience for you will definitely learn something from them, that's what I did.
Goodluck to all of us and be safe
Godbless...
A6
Being a pilot really needs hardwork, dedication and money. If you are really filthy rich, go to PALavschool or CIA. If you don't have that much, go to any flying school in genav. Now if you really can't afford and flying is your passion, go to PAF.
If you fly in avschool/CIA - expensive and a possibility of an airline job right away.
Gen.Av - not that expensive but does'nt guarantee an airline job right away, but if you get lucky and have connections then it is really for you. You can be a Flight Instructor, cargo or charter pilot for a while. Fly for a couple of years to gain much needed experience and hours then apply for a better company.
PAF - only for the disciplined and determined. Standards are very high and training is vigorous. If you made it and survived, then you are one of the best...or the best, eventhough our PAF is not in par with the rest. Most of the airlines prefer pilots from PAF.
Being an A/P mechanic is not bad especially if you work with a good airline company. Pay is good and can definitely support your family.
It's really up to you guys on what direction you want to go. Keep on asking people with experience for you will definitely learn something from them, that's what I did.
Goodluck to all of us and be safe
Godbless...
A6
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SIRS....
i have a files in my p.c that i've downloaded in the internet...a year ago..
should i start now to read this documents....
but.....there are so many pages....
and what manual should i start to read on????
the files that i've downloaded are the ff:
1. 737-400 crew training manual - 274 pages
2. 737(including NG) manual - 20 pages
3. 737(including NG) Management Reference Guide - 40 pages
4. 737(including NG) Airplane Characteristics For Airport Planning -
686 pages
5. 747-400 Airplane Characteristics For Airport Planning - 224 pages
6. 777-200/300 Airplane Characteristic For Airport Planning - 162 pages
7. NASA: Using Engine Thrust For Emergency Flight Control
(MD-11 And B747) - 32 pages
8. Boeing 747-400 advance operations Tutorial (simulator) - 112 pages
9. Normal Checklist of 747-400 - 3 pages
Airbus manuals are very difficult to find in the web....
i have a files in my p.c that i've downloaded in the internet...a year ago..
should i start now to read this documents....
but.....there are so many pages....
and what manual should i start to read on????
the files that i've downloaded are the ff:
1. 737-400 crew training manual - 274 pages
2. 737(including NG) manual - 20 pages
3. 737(including NG) Management Reference Guide - 40 pages
4. 737(including NG) Airplane Characteristics For Airport Planning -
686 pages
5. 747-400 Airplane Characteristics For Airport Planning - 224 pages
6. 777-200/300 Airplane Characteristic For Airport Planning - 162 pages
7. NASA: Using Engine Thrust For Emergency Flight Control
(MD-11 And B747) - 32 pages
8. Boeing 747-400 advance operations Tutorial (simulator) - 112 pages
9. Normal Checklist of 747-400 - 3 pages
Airbus manuals are very difficult to find in the web....
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B734 sim in PAL
Hey guys,
Does anyone know who to contact in PAL if someone wants to do a recurrency in the B734 using the sim ?
I've seen the website and they seem to do it. Please let me know.
Otherwise, I'll pop my head in when I go there.
Thanks
D6
Does anyone know who to contact in PAL if someone wants to do a recurrency in the B734 using the sim ?
I've seen the website and they seem to do it. Please let me know.
Otherwise, I'll pop my head in when I go there.
Thanks
D6
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Hi Cessna1052 welcome back,
Things are really slow from the other end
.... if you know what I mean. This waiting is killing me. 
I'll fill you in when I have more info. Right now, they are "dragging their feet"... it's like watching paint to dry up.
Our friend ( from the hotel ) is still asking them everyweek to no avail.
Miami, Florida has better options for me and I'm very tempted.
D6
Things are really slow from the other end
.... if you know what I mean. This waiting is killing me. I'll fill you in when I have more info. Right now, they are "dragging their feet"... it's like watching paint to dry up.
Our friend ( from the hotel ) is still asking them everyweek to no avail.
Miami, Florida has better options for me and I'm very tempted.
D6
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kurimaw,
I also came from PATTS graduated last march wid a degree in AMT. and im currently applying for PAL av school batch 2007A. in the application process you will be required to pay 3800php for the psychologicak test and 6000+php for the final medical. i read at the application paper that they require pilot trainees to have at least a 4yr college degree. we young aspiring pilots are very lucky to advised by veterans in this forum hehe! thanks every1!
I also came from PATTS graduated last march wid a degree in AMT. and im currently applying for PAL av school batch 2007A. in the application process you will be required to pay 3800php for the psychologicak test and 6000+php for the final medical. i read at the application paper that they require pilot trainees to have at least a 4yr college degree. we young aspiring pilots are very lucky to advised by veterans in this forum hehe! thanks every1!
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New A319
Looks like PAL has a new kid in town. Saw and heard, couple of nights back around 2200 GMT from the tower, a brand new A319 fresh from hamburg for a full stop here in OMDB, just forgot the callsign.
Nice to see the national colors again
Nice to see the national colors again
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320 jobs paying $10750/month
So what is the news back home? Anyone leaving? If not.... why not? There are so many jobs paying X4 better than PAL AND treat you like human beings!!! Here are some interesting jobs for those who have the balls to experience new horizons. Those without need not apply!
Job Description
Job Description
JAR – ICAO FCL ATPL / Frozen ATPL
Current Type Rating on A320 / B757
Valid Class 1 Medical Certificate
Fluent English (written and spoken)
Requirements for Captains;
Preferably total 5.000 hrs multi engine
Minimum 3.500 hrs P.I.C
Minimum total 500 hrs on type
Requirements for First Officers;
Minimum total 1.500 hrs multi engine
Minimum 250 hrs on type
Salary and other benefits for A320;
Salary Captains: 10.750.- USD per month ( 8.500.- USD + 75.- USD per diem)
First Officers: 7.250.- USD per month ( 5.000.- USD + 75.- USD per diem)
Hotel or compound HB for Saudi Arabia
Hotel BB for all other lay over locations
Medical Insurance
Base in Saudi Arabia
Transportation from homebase to Saudi Arabia beginning and end of the contract
Work Period: 6 weeks on, 1 week off
Salary and other benefits for B757;
Salary Captains: 8.500.- USD
First Officers: 5.000.- USD
Medical Insurance
Base in Istanbul
Transportation from homebase to Istanbul beginning and end of the contract
A320 Type Rated First Officers by their own expences
Base in Istanbul
JAR ATPL
Current Type Rating on Airbus A319/320/321
Valid Class 1 Medical Certificate
Fluent English (written and spoken)
E-Mail : [email protected]
Fax : +90 212 573 7012
Job Description
Job Description
JAR – ICAO FCL ATPL / Frozen ATPL
Current Type Rating on A320 / B757
Valid Class 1 Medical Certificate
Fluent English (written and spoken)
Requirements for Captains;
Preferably total 5.000 hrs multi engine
Minimum 3.500 hrs P.I.C
Minimum total 500 hrs on type
Requirements for First Officers;
Minimum total 1.500 hrs multi engine
Minimum 250 hrs on type
Salary and other benefits for A320;
Salary Captains: 10.750.- USD per month ( 8.500.- USD + 75.- USD per diem)
First Officers: 7.250.- USD per month ( 5.000.- USD + 75.- USD per diem)
Hotel or compound HB for Saudi Arabia
Hotel BB for all other lay over locations
Medical Insurance
Base in Saudi Arabia
Transportation from homebase to Saudi Arabia beginning and end of the contract
Work Period: 6 weeks on, 1 week off
Salary and other benefits for B757;
Salary Captains: 8.500.- USD
First Officers: 5.000.- USD
Medical Insurance
Base in Istanbul
Transportation from homebase to Istanbul beginning and end of the contract
A320 Type Rated First Officers by their own expences
Base in Istanbul
JAR ATPL
Current Type Rating on Airbus A319/320/321
Valid Class 1 Medical Certificate
Fluent English (written and spoken)
E-Mail : [email protected]
Fax : +90 212 573 7012
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greetings... it's been some time since i've last posted.
anyway, good news.. i was accepted at CIA. my dad (was home a few days ago and did that thing with POEA) is still a bit skeptic about the MPL even though he likes the idea of the program. any thoughts about the MPL?
anyway, good news.. i was accepted at CIA. my dad (was home a few days ago and did that thing with POEA) is still a bit skeptic about the MPL even though he likes the idea of the program. any thoughts about the MPL?
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i guess when i post this, some of you might think i'm crazy, but i know this is really what i want.
i am currently a holder of an FAA CMEL w/ IR. i almost have 500tt, and i am looking to work there in the Phil even if i'm currently here in the US... wether its PAL or CP it doesn't matter. as long as i'll fly heavy jets there. i would also like to know what are the proceedures and requirements for me to work there.
i came here as a student only, specifically for flight training.
i wanna work there cause i still love my country very much and i want to stay there inspite of the woes of our country... at least for the meantime.
so in conclusion, i'm just looking for a way to get in biz there...
paging PAL and CP pilots...
Thanks!
i am currently a holder of an FAA CMEL w/ IR. i almost have 500tt, and i am looking to work there in the Phil even if i'm currently here in the US... wether its PAL or CP it doesn't matter. as long as i'll fly heavy jets there. i would also like to know what are the proceedures and requirements for me to work there.
i came here as a student only, specifically for flight training.
i wanna work there cause i still love my country very much and i want to stay there inspite of the woes of our country... at least for the meantime.
so in conclusion, i'm just looking for a way to get in biz there...
paging PAL and CP pilots...
Thanks!
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pay scales in the philippines
who has got detailed information for pay scales at SEBU & PAL? i'm curious coz i'm planning to pick up a job there flyin but have very little info.