PAL Pilot Exodus

[paolylo]

Originally Posted by eroplano

Hi there paolylo! The shortest distance between you and a cockpit is a straight line. I suggest you go on and apply directly to Av School. I think they are in need of cadet trainees and pilots (as this thread proves). Maybe your dad has his reasons otherwise. I Don't know if the fact that you are your dad's son would lessen the chances of you getting in (baka striker s'ya). I hope that wouldn't be the case.

Prepare yourself physically, psychologically, emotionally, and of course financially (2 Mil).

Go on....Submit that resume and pray. Now is the time!

Goodluck

thanks! i've been trying to look for information about the Av School but i don't think they have a website. all i know is that it's located in Clark(?). my dad will take care of the financial part of the deal (would there be quarters located in the premises of the Av School or do i look for a place to lodge around the area?). preparing for the rest is my problem .

about my resume, my current work isn't as technical as flying a plane. also, my college degree has nothing to do with math, sciences, or engineering. i'm also trying to gauge my chances (i've been trying out the MS flight sim on the PC) in even getting in the Av School.

[paolylo]

Originally Posted by kontra

Paolylo,

No harm in trying to go straight to PAL AvSch. Why dont you try? If it doesnt work out, then you apply for other positions in PAL, and you can try again applying for PAL AvSch

I heard they offer scholarships again. But only to a few per batch. And you will be tied with them for 15years. Im not sure of the length of the contract.

Nothing much to prepare for, just be physically fit, you must have 20/20 vision.

Good luck

my dad would also stress the necessity of physical fitness in the Av School... how long would the schooling be? 2 years or more? i still have 20/20 vision.

i'm not really counting on a scholarship although i would be intrested if i can apply for it. 15 years seems to be a pretty long time considering the PAL pilots' issues with management.

[kontra]

Originally Posted by paolylo

my dad would also stress the necessity of physical fitness in the Av School... how long would the schooling be? 2 years or more? i still have 20/20 vision.

i'm not really counting on a scholarship although i would be intrested if i can apply for it. 15 years seems to be a pretty long time considering the PAL pilots' issues with management.

Physical fitness is not as hard as it used to be. No more early morning jogging, pushups, sit ups, etc. It is just basic academics. But of course, you have to be in good physical condition when you apply.

The whole program lasts about 18-24months. Depending on the weather conditions in Clark. There are barracks in the Omni Aviation Compound, which they rent out for PAL Avschl trainees. Omni is just outside Clark Intl Airport, which has a parralel runway with CIA. This is where PAL does its flight training.

If you father still have a connection with PAL, ask him to contact Engr. Meneses. He is in charge of the PAL Avschl. His office is in the B737 Sim building in Gate 1

[mach.86]

paolylo, check out www.philippineairlines.com and click on PAL learning center link if you want to find out some info on avschool and engr meneses' (manager) contact nos. i just gotta say that guy is a piece of work. if you can find a way to get past him, say an endorsement from a management from training or flight ops, that would almost assure you of a slot in the next batch. flight training is at OMNI (clark) though there are rumors that they're planning to move it somewhere in batangas. a new batchof trainees was interviewed last month i think, expecting to start september or october. the fun part of flying with PAL is at avschool. good luck!

[r2d2rebel]

paolylo

Originally Posted by paolylo

my dad would also stress the necessity of physical fitness in the Av School... how long would the schooling be? 2 years or more? i still have 20/20 vision.

i'm not really counting on a scholarship although i would be intrested if i can apply for it. 15 years seems to be a pretty long time considering the PAL pilots' issues with management.

Just one question paolylo:are you really intereseted to be a pilot at all costs? If you are really that interested then go for it! Here's the number of PLC (PAL Learning Center) in Padre Faura, Manila - 5269123. Ask to be connected to Aviation School.
To be an airline pilot is a long process with lots of trials & possible downfalls along the way. Go ask your dad what he went through to get to where he is right now. Maybe that's the reason why he's not encouraging you because its a hard life... it just looks prestigous.
All the best!

[paolylo]

Originally Posted by r2d2rebel

Just one question paolylo:are you really intereseted to be a pilot at all costs? If you are really that interested then go for it! Here's the number of PLC (PAL Learning Center) in Padre Faura, Manila - 5269123. Ask to be connected to Aviation School.
To be an airline pilot is a long process with lots of trials & possible downfalls along the way. Go ask your dad what he went through to get to where he is right now. Maybe that's the reason why he's not encouraging you because its a hard life... it just looks prestigous.
All the best!

thanks for that info!

i know that following my dad's act would be the hardest to follow. he did it the hard way coming from the Air Force during the early 80's. he was one of the first B-737 FO's during the late 80's and became the youngest B-747 captain after the strike.

let's just say that i wanna be a pilot because i know of no other way how to raise a family .

[kontra]

Originally Posted by Cessna1052

Hi Paolylo,
you know bro theres no other person who is best to ask than your dad, he's been there and did it all, as you said he made some history for himself already. The question is, is he still there in PAL? I've heard guys who are affiliated to Pilots who left PAL recently for another company are either given a hard time joining or totally rejected during screening. The son of a 330 Capt working for Asiana was rejected because of this, then theres one expal pilot working for an airline in the Mid-east putting her daughter to the Avschool was told to write down some form of letter or whatever promise or excuse it is, just to let her daughter in.
If your Dad happens to be with another airline already, Ask him if he did nothing wrong to those Admin guys in PAL on his way out, otherwise your dad knows as well that he has to do something to put you in that course you want.

All the Best!!!

I agree. JA & JH are not the type of management people who you can call professionals. They act as if they own the company and the pilots who work for PAL. They have this sort of being a god mentality. Well, you cant blame them, they have to support their lifestyle that they are willing to sacrifice the whole pilots group to look good to the upper management.

So, if your dad is in good terms with these two, then you may have a chance. If not, or even if your dad is a good man and he left, those two will still give you a hard time. What they cannot do to your father, they will do to you. That's how things go in PAL. So, better ask your dad about this.

[DeltaSix]

Like gods

Originally Posted by kontra

They act as if they own the company and the pilots who work for PAL. They have this sort of being a god mentality.

hmmmm....... looks like you need to do some major sucking up with these two guys.

Enough said..... just play the game, get it over and done with. At least you get in.


D6

[eroplano]

Originally Posted by paolylo

thanks! i've been trying to look for information about the Av School but i don't think they have a website. all i know is that it's located in Clark(?). my dad will take care of the financial part of the deal (would there be quarters located in the premises of the Av School or do i look for a place to lodge around the area?). preparing for the rest is my problem .

about my resume, my current work isn't as technical as flying a plane. also, my college degree has nothing to do with math, sciences, or engineering. i'm also trying to gauge my chances (i've been trying out the MS flight sim on the PC) in even getting in the Av School.

Doesn't matter what you did in college as long as you don't have a lot of failures. Doesn't matter if your present work is not as technical as flying a plane as long as you have good study habits.

The tricky part is getting in....and the secret to staying in is a good attitude....towards work, others and yourself.

Stop wasting time....GO NOW!

[teeepee]

wanna be a pal pilot

Originally Posted by paolylo

thanks for that info!

i know that following my dad's act would be the hardest to follow. he did it the hard way coming from the Air Force during the early 80's. he was one of the first B-737 FO's during the late 80's and became the youngest B-747 captain after the strike.

let's just say that i wanna be a pilot because i know of no other way how to raise a family .

/////// if your dad working for a foreign airline and earning a good dough ask him to send you to USA to get your basic flying and learn the trade the right way having an FAA license is the ingredient to foreign employment which is everybody heading anyway,don't even think of sticking or being loyal to PAL its not worth it!good luck kid.....

[teeepee]

Originally Posted by richkidpoorkid

Heard through the grapevine
TAIPAN Lucio Tan is belatedly going into the mall and retail business himself, using a number of foreclosed Uniwide branches and the Ever-Gotesco branch in Ortigas as starting bases.

More money for this guy

How we wish he finally lets go of the airline

/////// if LT will let go of PAL now it will collapse virtually,the company is just a "SHELL" now with nothing in it, but Flt crews and employees....catering is gone and maintenance as well, sad part of it is nobody has the audacity to rectify the scam and that includes GMA GOVERMENT.LT is also now considering of taking the precious medical benefits from the employees he he he JH,JA,LL,and the rest of those guys in gate1 doesnt care as long as their ass covered,my sympathy.......

[eroplano]

Originally Posted by teeepee

/////// if LT will let go of PAL now it will collapse virtually,the company is just a "SHELL" now with nothing in it, but Flt crews and employees....catering is gone and maintenance as well, sad part of it is nobody has the audacity to rectify the scam and that includes GMA GOVERMENT.LT is also now considering of taking the precious medical benefits from the employees he he he JH,JA,LL,and the rest of those guys in gate1 doesnt care as long as their ass covered,my sympathy.......

JH, JA, LL - wonder what these guys say in their bedtime prayers?

[repapips]

I'm out of my wits now...been trying to figure out who this LL is. I know JH & JA but LL?

[psychomotorman]

Originally Posted by repapips

I'm out of my wits now...been trying to figure out who this LL is. I know JH & JA but LL?

LL = Koyang. just an educated guess...

[teeepee]

LL ?

Originally Posted by repapips

I'm out of my wits now...been trying to figure out who this LL is. I know JH & JA but LL?

///// LL? eh sino p d yun bestfriend ni pitek n pnagsimulan ng lahat gulo na kinunsinte n alpap sa tulong n bumbay

[rsajlk]

LL = Koyang

Originally Posted by psychomotorman

LL = Koyang. just an educated guess...

Thats absolutely correct!!

[kamikase88]

Phil Congress

totoo ba balita na pilot at cabin crew di puwede magresign before 6 months notice. parang holocaust ah!!

[kontra]

dats korek

Kamikaze,

Sad to say, but its true. Unfortunately, management decided overnight that you have to serve 6 months if you want to resign, with or without a contract / training bond. We are thinking, is it to make your recency and your atpl lapse? So you cannot work for another airline because you dont have a valid license and not current?

[DeltaSix]

Resignation

Cessna1052,

So, what happens if one resigns today ( for those not bonded ) and give them a months notice ? What damage can they do to you ?


D6

[kontra]

I have heard some of them were tried in a kangaroo court. Charged with awol. They will be charged with "damages that resulted in your awol". Because they will still give you a flight schedule after your 30days notice of resignation (which is the only time required under tha labor law)

Do you think things will be better after JH & JA retires? Or will they retire? Their positions are non-flying positions. So that means they can hold on to their posts parang tuko. After them it will be LL....what do you think of him?