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I'm to busy preparing for my stage II and III for next week, but after it, I shall post my experiences for stage I, II and III.
There must be different JKI tests, because some of the questions you mention, I did not get.
During which part is lift the greatest:
Normally in take off.
The amount of pressure difference determines the amount of lift produced.
The pressure difference is affected by the functions of lift, which are, configuration (flaps), air density, angle of attack (which is highest at take off), and the speed of airflow over the wing.
Predictive windshear and how does it work:
Normal the windshear is only detected when the aircraft flies into the windshear. Then the pilot will get visual and an aural warning. The predictive ones detects the windshear ahead of the plane. How it's working precisely I forgot, but it has something to do with the wx radar and the doppler frequency shift.
Cost index (CI):
performance management function that optimizes speed for minimum cost. Jet performance computers determining the best speed at which to travel in order to minimize the total operating cost of the flight.
MRC vs. LRC:
LRC is 99% of the MRC. Speeds are very unstable at the MRC. So you want to fly a bit faster. 1% of the range is used to fly at a higher speed.
WAT:
Weight, Altitude, Temperature conditions limits the aircrafts MTOW and MLW.
At take off you need to have enough power so that you meet the required second segment climb gradient or the missed approach climb gradient, with one engine inop.
Hope this helped
Blue skies, tailwinds and happy landings,
NFAM
There must be different JKI tests, because some of the questions you mention, I did not get.
During which part is lift the greatest:
Normally in take off.
The amount of pressure difference determines the amount of lift produced.
The pressure difference is affected by the functions of lift, which are, configuration (flaps), air density, angle of attack (which is highest at take off), and the speed of airflow over the wing.
Predictive windshear and how does it work:
Normal the windshear is only detected when the aircraft flies into the windshear. Then the pilot will get visual and an aural warning. The predictive ones detects the windshear ahead of the plane. How it's working precisely I forgot, but it has something to do with the wx radar and the doppler frequency shift.
Cost index (CI):
performance management function that optimizes speed for minimum cost. Jet performance computers determining the best speed at which to travel in order to minimize the total operating cost of the flight.
MRC vs. LRC:
LRC is 99% of the MRC. Speeds are very unstable at the MRC. So you want to fly a bit faster. 1% of the range is used to fly at a higher speed.
WAT:
Weight, Altitude, Temperature conditions limits the aircrafts MTOW and MLW.
At take off you need to have enough power so that you meet the required second segment climb gradient or the missed approach climb gradient, with one engine inop.
Hope this helped
Blue skies, tailwinds and happy landings,
NFAM
Last edited by NightFlightsAreMagic; 5th Nov 2010 at 11:06.
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Be very careful telling an aeronautical engineer or the interviewers that flaps increase lift. They don’t. To be precise they increase the lifting ability of a wing at lower speeds.
Generally lift is the greatest in a turn, not at take-off.
Predictive windshear works through the aircraft’s wx radar using Doppler shift, i.e. how much a particle moves over a given time. If they exceed a predetermined set of parameters, a visual and aural warning (WINDSHEAR AHEAD) is triggered in the cockpit.
Be very careful telling an aeronautical engineer or the interviewers that flaps increase lift. They don’t. To be precise they increase the lifting ability of a wing at lower speeds.
Generally lift is the greatest in a turn, not at take-off.
Predictive windshear works through the aircraft’s wx radar using Doppler shift, i.e. how much a particle moves over a given time. If they exceed a predetermined set of parameters, a visual and aural warning (WINDSHEAR AHEAD) is triggered in the cockpit.
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After thinking about it and opening my POF ATPL book this time, I agree with you that lift is greatest in a turn. The other book I uses, clearly answers 'lift is greatest at take off '. However, it is known that this book -ACE the technical pilot interview - contains some errors.
Thanks for pointing this out.
Blue skies,
Thanks for pointing this out.
Blue skies,
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Hey u guys, is my 1st post here, well 1st of all thx for all the information and experience u guys have shared in this post
Well i live in sydney, im an undergraduate doing accounting at a crappy uni, is my first year, my marks are reasonable. However I have decided to become a pilot, im sick of writing these few thousand words essays and reports for the rest of my life...
Looking at all my local options, I could either do a uni course on aviation(takes 3 years) with cost 100k++, or do a CPL tafe course and find a flying school to fly in. Then I looked at the Cathay Pacfic's site and thier Cadet Pilot Programme, cause I was grow up in HK, and my family is living there, I can speak cando well, but read only a little, it would be awesome to do a program there.
I have Zero flying experiences and no knowledge on anything. But i did study Physics and Mathematics in highschool till Yr12, marks are average. From the site it says "You need not have previous flying experience, but you should be ambitious and enthusiastic." But having some Hours or even some of u guys have got ur PPL or CPL already, will have a better chance to get in right?
Looking at the requirements from the site, one thing bothers me, HK university entrance qualifications or can be in Australia too?
I'm prepairing for my Application now, but I would like some advice by u guys out there who have got selected to interview.
Should I do some flying hours b4 applying? or even finish CPL first?
What is the due date for applying if I want to make it to the Dec HK interview, that i read someone was going? (I know if lucky it might take months for a reply form them) =/
Can I apply again after the reject me the 1st time?( thats why i dont want to waste my 1st chance)
I wear glasses, but it will help me get to 20/20 version, anyone in stage I seen anyone with glasses? hope they wont mind.
thanks in advance for the help, I hope I can have the same dream u guys do, to become a airline pilot. For you guys doing the interviews and stages, I wish u the best of luck ^^
Well i live in sydney, im an undergraduate doing accounting at a crappy uni, is my first year, my marks are reasonable. However I have decided to become a pilot, im sick of writing these few thousand words essays and reports for the rest of my life...
Looking at all my local options, I could either do a uni course on aviation(takes 3 years) with cost 100k++, or do a CPL tafe course and find a flying school to fly in. Then I looked at the Cathay Pacfic's site and thier Cadet Pilot Programme, cause I was grow up in HK, and my family is living there, I can speak cando well, but read only a little, it would be awesome to do a program there.
I have Zero flying experiences and no knowledge on anything. But i did study Physics and Mathematics in highschool till Yr12, marks are average. From the site it says "You need not have previous flying experience, but you should be ambitious and enthusiastic." But having some Hours or even some of u guys have got ur PPL or CPL already, will have a better chance to get in right?
Looking at the requirements from the site, one thing bothers me, HK university entrance qualifications or can be in Australia too?
I'm prepairing for my Application now, but I would like some advice by u guys out there who have got selected to interview.
Should I do some flying hours b4 applying? or even finish CPL first?
What is the due date for applying if I want to make it to the Dec HK interview, that i read someone was going? (I know if lucky it might take months for a reply form them) =/
Can I apply again after the reject me the 1st time?( thats why i dont want to waste my 1st chance)
I wear glasses, but it will help me get to 20/20 version, anyone in stage I seen anyone with glasses? hope they wont mind.
thanks in advance for the help, I hope I can have the same dream u guys do, to become a airline pilot. For you guys doing the interviews and stages, I wish u the best of luck ^^
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SloppyJoe,
Your last comment was for me, right?
Lol,
Maybe after being a SO for some time at CX, I will change it indeed.
However at the moment, I love night flights. I find them much more relaxed. Silence on the radio, you get more directs, less holdings, and than the view!!! Little lights everywhere, and if you are lucky a very spectacular sunrise. Love it.
Tailwinds,
NFAM
Your last comment was for me, right?
Lol,
Maybe after being a SO for some time at CX, I will change it indeed.
However at the moment, I love night flights. I find them much more relaxed. Silence on the radio, you get more directs, less holdings, and than the view!!! Little lights everywhere, and if you are lucky a very spectacular sunrise. Love it.
Tailwinds,
NFAM
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I have a question. I'm a tourism student without any aviation knowledge or background.. In the meantime, I wanted to be a pilot as well... R there any percentage for me to get accepted by CX cadet pilot programme?
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The closing date for the Dec HKG interviews I think was around 8 months ago or there abouts. Read this whole thread, get a feel for what is expected. Having grown up in HKG and having family here is a big plus. You do not need any previous flying experience. If you really want this and prepare you have a better shot than most due to your HKG links as they will see it as you being more likely to stick with it rather than leave when you have some experience. Apply, you have enough time to prepare, prepare as best as you can but dont put your life on hold, start whatever it is you are planning to.
NFAM,
Yes directed at you. Guess you have never flown in India. But yes it is pretty, and yeap sunrises are nice. Beds are nicer though. :-)
Eugene,
25000+ applicants and I think there have been 150 cadets or there abouts so you can work out the percentage. As you are asking a strange question and have no understanding of the scheme maybe divide that percentage by 10.
The closing date for the Dec HKG interviews I think was around 8 months ago or there abouts. Read this whole thread, get a feel for what is expected. Having grown up in HKG and having family here is a big plus. You do not need any previous flying experience. If you really want this and prepare you have a better shot than most due to your HKG links as they will see it as you being more likely to stick with it rather than leave when you have some experience. Apply, you have enough time to prepare, prepare as best as you can but dont put your life on hold, start whatever it is you are planning to.
NFAM,
Yes directed at you. Guess you have never flown in India. But yes it is pretty, and yeap sunrises are nice. Beds are nicer though. :-)
Eugene,
25000+ applicants and I think there have been 150 cadets or there abouts so you can work out the percentage. As you are asking a strange question and have no understanding of the scheme maybe divide that percentage by 10.
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FutureTP, NFAM,
Thank you very much for your information. It really helps.
Regarding the question about predictive windshear, in Hong Kong, windshear is either detected by radar or LIDAR. Radar works by calculating the Doppler frequency shift as NFAM has mentioned. The down side of using radar, however, is that it only works in rainy days (or when there is water droplets in the air).
LIDAR (Light Detection and Ranging system) works in a similar manner. The only difference is that it utilizes Laser detection so it still functions perfectly in the absence of water droplets. I am not sure if this system is used worldwide or only in places like Hong Kong where windshear is a very common phenomenon.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Chase
Thank you very much for your information. It really helps.
Regarding the question about predictive windshear, in Hong Kong, windshear is either detected by radar or LIDAR. Radar works by calculating the Doppler frequency shift as NFAM has mentioned. The down side of using radar, however, is that it only works in rainy days (or when there is water droplets in the air).
LIDAR (Light Detection and Ranging system) works in a similar manner. The only difference is that it utilizes Laser detection so it still functions perfectly in the absence of water droplets. I am not sure if this system is used worldwide or only in places like Hong Kong where windshear is a very common phenomenon.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Chase
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hey initial vin,
no flying experience is necessary, and even having experience doesn't guarantee you an interview, it all depends on whether or not you can convince them you are a suitable candidate in your application - so do think about what you want to tell them carefully before sending it off
however that said, imo i believe having some flying experience, even if it is only a few hours, is better than none for 3 reasons
firstly, it will be easier to convince them you are serious about a career as a pilot
secondly, you will learn so much more about flying in general
and thirdyly, getting flying lessons should not be seen as something you should do, but something you must do if you are trully set on becoming a pilot
obviously it will depend on a person's circumstances whether or not they can get any flying under their belt such as location and their financial situation, but i think you get what i am trying to say.
But most importantly, don't base your entire career on this program. if you really want to be a pilot, then you will go and be a pilot regardless of if you make it into the program or not. This brings me to my next point, make sure you have a clear idea of how you intend on becoming a pilot because they will ask you this in the interview, if you just say the cadet programme, then it doesn't really show any true enthusiasm to becoming a pilot.
since you're in Sydney, i would go to bankstown aiport and talk to a few flying schools and get a feel for what it takes and roughly costs and the timeline involved in becoming a commercial pilot - take a trial introductory flight and see if flying really is for you - does it live upto your expectations etc. it should cost about 100-150 max for this.
anyways goodluck, the best place to start reading up on planes in general is to use the flying training manuals and Basic Aeronautical Knowledge books that most people use when they start actual flight training, then move on from there.
oh, and its no problems if you wear glasses, so long as you don't have something wrong with your eye, not everyone has 20/20 vision
no flying experience is necessary, and even having experience doesn't guarantee you an interview, it all depends on whether or not you can convince them you are a suitable candidate in your application - so do think about what you want to tell them carefully before sending it off
however that said, imo i believe having some flying experience, even if it is only a few hours, is better than none for 3 reasons
firstly, it will be easier to convince them you are serious about a career as a pilot
secondly, you will learn so much more about flying in general
and thirdyly, getting flying lessons should not be seen as something you should do, but something you must do if you are trully set on becoming a pilot
obviously it will depend on a person's circumstances whether or not they can get any flying under their belt such as location and their financial situation, but i think you get what i am trying to say.
But most importantly, don't base your entire career on this program. if you really want to be a pilot, then you will go and be a pilot regardless of if you make it into the program or not. This brings me to my next point, make sure you have a clear idea of how you intend on becoming a pilot because they will ask you this in the interview, if you just say the cadet programme, then it doesn't really show any true enthusiasm to becoming a pilot.
since you're in Sydney, i would go to bankstown aiport and talk to a few flying schools and get a feel for what it takes and roughly costs and the timeline involved in becoming a commercial pilot - take a trial introductory flight and see if flying really is for you - does it live upto your expectations etc. it should cost about 100-150 max for this.
anyways goodluck, the best place to start reading up on planes in general is to use the flying training manuals and Basic Aeronautical Knowledge books that most people use when they start actual flight training, then move on from there.
oh, and its no problems if you wear glasses, so long as you don't have something wrong with your eye, not everyone has 20/20 vision
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Keep it rolling~
Hi Ladies and Gentlemen,
This is my post in the forum and I must admit it is helpful to any potential pilot wannabes. Thank you for all the constructive posts. Keep it rolling!
This is my post in the forum and I must admit it is helpful to any potential pilot wannabes. Thank you for all the constructive posts. Keep it rolling!
Chase3139
The question relates to the predictive windshear which is in the aircraft not the windshear detection system at HKIA. Predictive windshear systems in aircraft use Doppler through the aircrafts wx radar, not laser. The windshear detection at HKIA also uses Doppler. One of the sights is near my home.
The question relates to the predictive windshear which is in the aircraft not the windshear detection system at HKIA. Predictive windshear systems in aircraft use Doppler through the aircrafts wx radar, not laser. The windshear detection at HKIA also uses Doppler. One of the sights is near my home.
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ay guys, did 1st stage (adelaide) 3 weeks ago and all ive heard is from their medical staff asking for a full doctors report on my acnea (3 days ago). Any one got any idea from this information whether I am likely to make it to 2nd stage if i havent heard anything yet?
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404 Titan,
Thanks a lot for clarifying this. I misunderstood the question and I thought that it was asking about the windshear detection and prediction in the airport.
Thumbs up!
Chase
Thanks a lot for clarifying this. I misunderstood the question and I thought that it was asking about the windshear detection and prediction in the airport.
Thumbs up!
Chase
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@irok... I have a CPL but all the other guys with a PPL were asked similar questions. CX can and will ask you questions that are beyond your knowledge, so try and learn as much as you can cope with!
@coobg... the fact that CX are asking for more medical clarification is only a good thing some of the others have been asked the same, so I'm guessing you passed stage 1 and just need the medical side to give the green light!
@roxy... no medical at stage 1 just a questionnaire that you fill in!
FTP
@coobg... the fact that CX are asking for more medical clarification is only a good thing some of the others have been asked the same, so I'm guessing you passed stage 1 and just need the medical side to give the green light!
@roxy... no medical at stage 1 just a questionnaire that you fill in!
FTP
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Hello everyone,
This is my first post ever on a forum. I am currently residing in the UK and selected HK as my first preference when I applied in June of this year with the reason that:
1. I did not think I would be in the UK after my studies and,
2. That people who selected HK will be selected a bit sooner.
I have been a bit busy and have finally got upto speed with this forum and noticed that there were already invitations to stage 1 in HK and London (London was my 2nd preference) and was not invited to either locations.
Should I be worried??
I have also just recently changed my first preference to UK seeing as I will be staying here for quite some time.
Your input is greatly appreciated.
Regards.
This is my first post ever on a forum. I am currently residing in the UK and selected HK as my first preference when I applied in June of this year with the reason that:
1. I did not think I would be in the UK after my studies and,
2. That people who selected HK will be selected a bit sooner.
I have been a bit busy and have finally got upto speed with this forum and noticed that there were already invitations to stage 1 in HK and London (London was my 2nd preference) and was not invited to either locations.
Should I be worried??
I have also just recently changed my first preference to UK seeing as I will be staying here for quite some time.
Your input is greatly appreciated.
Regards.
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nope, thats normal, most people wait about 6-12 months before being invited for an interview, some lucky ones get an invite a few months after they apply, so stick tight study up and wait patiently until that magical invitation comes along
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Originally Posted by 8-Ball
Hello everyone,
This is my first post ever on a forum. I am currently residing in the UK and selected HK as my first preference when I applied in June of this year with the reason that:
1. I did not think I would be in the UK after my studies and,
2. That people who selected HK will be selected a bit sooner.
I have been a bit busy and have finally got upto speed with this forum and noticed that there were already invitations to stage 1 in HK and London (London was my 2nd preference) and was not invited to either locations.
Should I be worried??
I have also just recently changed my first preference to UK seeing as I will be staying here for quite some time.
Your input is greatly appreciated.
Regards.
This is my first post ever on a forum. I am currently residing in the UK and selected HK as my first preference when I applied in June of this year with the reason that:
1. I did not think I would be in the UK after my studies and,
2. That people who selected HK will be selected a bit sooner.
I have been a bit busy and have finally got upto speed with this forum and noticed that there were already invitations to stage 1 in HK and London (London was my 2nd preference) and was not invited to either locations.
Should I be worried??
I have also just recently changed my first preference to UK seeing as I will be staying here for quite some time.
Your input is greatly appreciated.
Regards.
i applied in April, also nothing..
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Has anyone who recently got the thumbs up for Stage 1 gotten a time for Stage 2? As I am thinking we must be getting towards the time where I am unlikely to get my stage 2 done this year as it seems people tend to get about 4 - 6 weeks of notice for stage 2...