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it took them over a month to get back to me, only after i emailed asking if there was any updates, the initial response was that i have been shortlisted for the 2/3rd round however, they cannot give me a interview date..
only just received the email today;
anyone doing 2+3rd stage on the 15/16 November?
only just received the email today;
anyone doing 2+3rd stage on the 15/16 November?
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Crwjerk's fact is correct, and part of my point was to convey to everyone that living accomodations will be much smaller than they are used to, as money for property in HK does not buy the same amount it would in another country - my example of the lower class family in toronto is one instance. It is important for any prospective cadet to understand and realize that this will affect their lifestyles, as having a spacious accomodation maybe important to some, and perhaps less so for others. I only ask that we also understand that the price of property affects everyone and anyone of any profession, including doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc. And to consider what is important to you, The salary for this position is what it is, for some it maybe too low, for some it maybe more than enough depending on which part of the world you are from and what kind of lifestyle you are used, will dictate how you ultimately perceive it.
Simply said, if you want to live in a 1000 sq ft condo, to supporting your spouse and children, with the lifestyle you are used to at home (driving in a sedan everywhere, eating imported foods) it will be hard for an expat SO even with the housing allowance, and unrealistic for cadets without it. The same salary however, will definitely afford you that elsewhere (definitely able in Canada, Thailand is another). This is not to say that the cadet with a family should give up because they wouldn't be able to support their family, but rather to warn candidates from western countries (again particularly Canada, and US) that the standards of living are going to be difficult at the beginning of this career, once again because of the housing allowance. But with the allowance or not, the standards of living simply are not the same, and thus cannot be compared.
My final note with that regards is that Hong Kong is not for everybody, even though there is something for everybody. This has been true even since the A scale existed for pilots, where as for some the money offered by the A scale was enough to offset the the price of leaving home, but others whom value being at home or were not at all attracted to the lifestyle in Hong Kong, then no amount of money would have lured them to make the move.
Make sure you know what you are getting yourself into, money being one factor, but it is not the only factor that affects lifestyle. I've decided to throw in some links as to further understand the real costs of living in Hong Kong. To know if Hong kong is for you or not is important, because the career at cathay is only worth it if it is a career and not a stepping stone.
Some of these links may be useful to provide a look into what you're monthly expenses may be. Once again, good luck to everyone who is pursuing this program, and all the best to those that decide that this is not for them.
All These links can be found with a simply google search (i.e. gym membership cost in HK). The only thing that does not have it's own website are groceries. I don't believe it is possible to understand the culture and setup of street groceries markets other than to actually see them. However park n shop is one of the largest chain supermarkets in HK and offer some insight into the price of food (http://www1.parknshop.com).
On a funny note with regards to groceries: pork is another meat that is relatively much more expensive than surrounding countries (again Canada, US). It was actually worthwhile when my grandmother would go back to our little town in mainland China to buy a large bag of pork feet (a chinese cuisine) cook and preserve them and bring it back to Hong Kong so she didn't have to pay Hong Kong prices... again just a different standard of living.
Here are just some links to start you off on your way.:
Internet, television, and telecommunications
??????
<- pccw is one of Hong Kong's largest provider of broadband and telecommunications, there are many many others at competition makes prices cheap. But pccw is a good start to figuring out your monthly tv/internet/phone bill
www.fortress.com.hk
<-fortress is a large chain franchaise for electronic and home appliance products, again there are MANY smaller dealers that you may find cheaper deals. As some apartments may not be furnished, this would be a good site to look into getting started in basic home appliances
To understand a bit more about the utilities and basic services in HK such as gas,electricity,water expatfocus.com has several links:
Hong Kong - Utilities (Electricity, Gas, Water)
and finally here is another excellent post from a internet blogger with regards to living in HK as an expat.
Cost of Living in Hong Kong
Crwjerk's fact is correct, and part of my point was to convey to everyone that living accomodations will be much smaller than they are used to, as money for property in HK does not buy the same amount it would in another country - my example of the lower class family in toronto is one instance. It is important for any prospective cadet to understand and realize that this will affect their lifestyles, as having a spacious accomodation maybe important to some, and perhaps less so for others. I only ask that we also understand that the price of property affects everyone and anyone of any profession, including doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc. And to consider what is important to you, The salary for this position is what it is, for some it maybe too low, for some it maybe more than enough depending on which part of the world you are from and what kind of lifestyle you are used, will dictate how you ultimately perceive it.
Simply said, if you want to live in a 1000 sq ft condo, to supporting your spouse and children, with the lifestyle you are used to at home (driving in a sedan everywhere, eating imported foods) it will be hard for an expat SO even with the housing allowance, and unrealistic for cadets without it. The same salary however, will definitely afford you that elsewhere (definitely able in Canada, Thailand is another). This is not to say that the cadet with a family should give up because they wouldn't be able to support their family, but rather to warn candidates from western countries (again particularly Canada, and US) that the standards of living are going to be difficult at the beginning of this career, once again because of the housing allowance. But with the allowance or not, the standards of living simply are not the same, and thus cannot be compared.
My final note with that regards is that Hong Kong is not for everybody, even though there is something for everybody. This has been true even since the A scale existed for pilots, where as for some the money offered by the A scale was enough to offset the the price of leaving home, but others whom value being at home or were not at all attracted to the lifestyle in Hong Kong, then no amount of money would have lured them to make the move.
Make sure you know what you are getting yourself into, money being one factor, but it is not the only factor that affects lifestyle. I've decided to throw in some links as to further understand the real costs of living in Hong Kong. To know if Hong kong is for you or not is important, because the career at cathay is only worth it if it is a career and not a stepping stone.
Some of these links may be useful to provide a look into what you're monthly expenses may be. Once again, good luck to everyone who is pursuing this program, and all the best to those that decide that this is not for them.
All These links can be found with a simply google search (i.e. gym membership cost in HK). The only thing that does not have it's own website are groceries. I don't believe it is possible to understand the culture and setup of street groceries markets other than to actually see them. However park n shop is one of the largest chain supermarkets in HK and offer some insight into the price of food (http://www1.parknshop.com).
On a funny note with regards to groceries: pork is another meat that is relatively much more expensive than surrounding countries (again Canada, US). It was actually worthwhile when my grandmother would go back to our little town in mainland China to buy a large bag of pork feet (a chinese cuisine) cook and preserve them and bring it back to Hong Kong so she didn't have to pay Hong Kong prices... again just a different standard of living.
Here are just some links to start you off on your way.:
Internet, television, and telecommunications
??????
<- pccw is one of Hong Kong's largest provider of broadband and telecommunications, there are many many others at competition makes prices cheap. But pccw is a good start to figuring out your monthly tv/internet/phone bill
www.fortress.com.hk
<-fortress is a large chain franchaise for electronic and home appliance products, again there are MANY smaller dealers that you may find cheaper deals. As some apartments may not be furnished, this would be a good site to look into getting started in basic home appliances
To understand a bit more about the utilities and basic services in HK such as gas,electricity,water expatfocus.com has several links:
Hong Kong - Utilities (Electricity, Gas, Water)
and finally here is another excellent post from a internet blogger with regards to living in HK as an expat.
Cost of Living in Hong Kong
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and to add to that, your electricity bill will be quite expensive. This mainly due to the hot and humid climate here, which means the will be at least one A/C unit running 24/7 (living room in the day and bedroom at night) for at least 6 months of the year. My last bill was $2500 for 2 months for a small flat. It also gets surprisingly cold in January and February (considering we are in tropical latitudes) and the apartments are concrete and glass, so no insulation; which results in heaters being on in the winter. The last couple of years the govt has subsidised, but unfortunately that has finished.
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Anyone know whether Cathay have a min or max BMI? Or min or max weight? Obviously your height has to be above 160cm just wondered if anyone knew about their BMI requirements? If they have any?
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Hey,
i'm guessing the BMI requirements, at least at this stage, would be that you lie within what is considered underwieght and overweight according to BMI calculations, with a more thorough grilling at the real medical.
Does this sound about right to those who have already been through the process?
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i'm guessing the BMI requirements, at least at this stage, would be that you lie within what is considered underwieght and overweight according to BMI calculations, with a more thorough grilling at the real medical.
Does this sound about right to those who have already been through the process?
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i'm guessing the BMI requirements, at least at this stage, would be that you lie within what is considered underwieght and overweight according to BMI calculations, with a more thorough grilling at the real medical.
hey can anyone tell me a bit more about the numeracy test in stage two...how hard is it? what sort of questions? what should be studied beforehand etc.?
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Well I sent them an email because its been 2 weeks or so since my Stage 1 interviews and still no word of a result from them and got a response back saying they could not tell me as they still have to do a medical screening which is part of the stage 1 process so I assume that is the bit of paper with the 6 questions on it.
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Stage 1
Well I got rejected after Stage 1 day in Hong Kong.
Do some of you guys believe they would reject people to see if they would reapply another time? There were experienced guys as well who got rejected, and they thought they did pretty good on Stage 1?
I will however reapply later, continue improving myself and complete my PPL and start ATPL theory shortly.
I now understand that I probably did not meet the high standards they are looking for. Somehow I will have to prove to them that I will be worth another round
And another thing, I did a lot of reading but perhaps on the wrong things, read up on my aircraft (c172) and on the company (everything to the price of the stocks last year!) and got cornered anyway (they did not ask one question about cx or the aicraft)
They will find a way ..
However I enjoyed the experience very much and wish all the others the best of luck!
Do some of you guys believe they would reject people to see if they would reapply another time? There were experienced guys as well who got rejected, and they thought they did pretty good on Stage 1?
I will however reapply later, continue improving myself and complete my PPL and start ATPL theory shortly.
I now understand that I probably did not meet the high standards they are looking for. Somehow I will have to prove to them that I will be worth another round
And another thing, I did a lot of reading but perhaps on the wrong things, read up on my aircraft (c172) and on the company (everything to the price of the stocks last year!) and got cornered anyway (they did not ask one question about cx or the aicraft)
They will find a way ..
However I enjoyed the experience very much and wish all the others the best of luck!
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Malov
Do some of you guys believe they would reject people to see if they would reapply another time?
And another thing, I did a lot of reading but perhaps on the wrong things, read up on my aircraft (c172) and on the company (everything to the price of the stocks last year!) and got cornered anyway (they did not ask one question about cx or the aicraft)
Good luck with your re-application. It took me 2 years of preparation leading up to my second attempt at the CX cadetship... try hard, and never give up!
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Hi Malov,
sorry to hear you didnt make it to stage 2, i'm not sure how they chose people as its a pretty difficult assessment with both experienced and non experienced candidates being assessed on pretty much the same thing.
When did you have your assessment for stage 1? I ask this as I know that London stage 1 results havent been released yet so it might give an indication of what kind of timescale to expect? Has anyone heard from CX re. london assessments?
Good luck with your future app and flying!
sorry to hear you didnt make it to stage 2, i'm not sure how they chose people as its a pretty difficult assessment with both experienced and non experienced candidates being assessed on pretty much the same thing.
When did you have your assessment for stage 1? I ask this as I know that London stage 1 results havent been released yet so it might give an indication of what kind of timescale to expect? Has anyone heard from CX re. london assessments?
Good luck with your future app and flying!
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holdmetight: I understand what you are saying and I also know very well now what my weak areas are and what I should be focusing on
ap_797: I got the mail before two weeks had passed.
Also, if I should complete the ATPL theory before my next attempt then I would assume the interview questions will be of a totally different character as well - so I will only have to study harder and use all of my time ahead to really nail the interview the next time around. And try to get a good pass grade on all the subjects!
If I should be rejected the second time I will only be well prepared for any other interviews with other airlines don`t you think?
ap_797: I got the mail before two weeks had passed.
Also, if I should complete the ATPL theory before my next attempt then I would assume the interview questions will be of a totally different character as well - so I will only have to study harder and use all of my time ahead to really nail the interview the next time around. And try to get a good pass grade on all the subjects!
If I should be rejected the second time I will only be well prepared for any other interviews with other airlines don`t you think?
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Malov, what did they ask you on stage I?
I wasn't questioned about the aircrafts I've flown in the first interview - I think they will grill me on that in my next stage-, but they did ask a lot CX-related questions. CX-related questions, JKI booklet questions, and some ATPL stuff.
I wasn't questioned about the aircrafts I've flown in the first interview - I think they will grill me on that in my next stage-, but they did ask a lot CX-related questions. CX-related questions, JKI booklet questions, and some ATPL stuff.
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Malov, what did they ask you on stage I?
I wasn't questioned about the aircrafts I've flown in the first interview - I think they will grill me on that in my next stage-, but they did ask a lot CX-related questions. CX-related questions, JKI booklet questions, and some ATPL stuff.
I am under the impression now after having had some thoughts on the interview that I read on things I thought I was supposed to know and maybe was asked, rather than the things I should have known and read through
They asked me everything, as soon as you have answered a question they fire one right back - and if I post some of the questions here I will only mislead others and I don`t want to do that. Just know the stuff thoroughly, especially the JKI and any CX-related stuff of course
I wasn't questioned about the aircrafts I've flown in the first interview - I think they will grill me on that in my next stage-, but they did ask a lot CX-related questions. CX-related questions, JKI booklet questions, and some ATPL stuff.
I am under the impression now after having had some thoughts on the interview that I read on things I thought I was supposed to know and maybe was asked, rather than the things I should have known and read through
They asked me everything, as soon as you have answered a question they fire one right back - and if I post some of the questions here I will only mislead others and I don`t want to do that. Just know the stuff thoroughly, especially the JKI and any CX-related stuff of course
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coobg002, after stage I you will get a mail saying that you passed or failed. If you passed they will call you a couple days/weeks later, asking of date X and Y suit you to come to HK. Than you'll receive another mail which will give you more explanation, and they send the tickets to HK via fedex.
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CX assesments
Hi.Its almost year end. It has been almost 8 months since CX held their interviews in Africa(Jo'burg South Africa to be exact).I applied in June this Year but no feedback yet though Im still patient.I was wondering if it's possible for CX to have more overseas assesments before end year.