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Old 9th Nov 2010, 01:01
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Ddobin... I managed to find out that they dont have any dates for Nov or Dec they are all full expect early next year! I hope this helps...

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Old 9th Nov 2010, 05:24
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hey man let us know if u get a time for stage 2. I got the thumbs up yesterday and I got lots of stuff happening for example getting my commercial, travelling etc. Would like to know a roughly when Im gonna need to be free to go to hk
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Old 9th Nov 2010, 07:11
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Thanks futuretp, I thought as much really. But will still prepare like Coob I had the acne thing also, which is what delayed my Stage 1 results, Tbh although they don't say it I think it is more an image thing for them rather than them being worried about some acne drug which for me was years ago!
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Old 9th Nov 2010, 14:51
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Are they hiring pilots or models?

Actually, given the lack of housing allowance, the latter may help as a second source of income!

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Old 9th Nov 2010, 19:16
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Not sure if this has happened to anyone before but here goes. I didnt make it at Flight Grading after the first 4 flights. I was on the advanced entry flight grading and believe I was not given a fair chance to show my potenttial. I was getting 3s and 4s throughout out of 5 and one 2 which was me having not the greatest of days in the circuit. Bit of a premature decison made by Cathay to be honest. Has anyone appealed against this kind of decision before? Thanks
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Old 9th Nov 2010, 21:46
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SW1,

I've certainly heard of people failing flight grading before. There was someone on my FG who was sent home before the sims because he wasn't performing. This isn't to say you weren't hard done by, but perhaps they are holding a pretty high standard for advanced entry. I know the advanced entry guys and girls who got through were averaging 4.5 out of 5 the whole time. My advice would be to email Cathay, and make your self available for the ab initio course. Its only an extra 8 months, and the standards at flight grading will be lower

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Old 9th Nov 2010, 22:23
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Thanks a lot mtcaust. Ive already sent them an email. But I dont think they'll allow me to do the short course. This has happened before with some people but in my case theyve told me I cant do the short course due to my hours and licences. I would suggest anyone who has advanced entry grading or who has not flown for a while get a few hours before you go. I hadnt flown an SEP for a year and was majorly rusty. Not what you want to be before being assessed to CPL skills test tolerances.
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Old 9th Nov 2010, 23:43
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Do Cathay give you the option of the ab-initio or the advanced course? Or do they decide?

Could someone who already has a CPL request the ab-initio course?
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 00:20
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doesn't it depend on how many hours you have?

i thought i read someone saying earlier that under 250 hours you go and do the full course, and over 250 you do the short course.

sorry to hear about your result SW1
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 01:07
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Its 250 hours for the short course (6-8months) and the full 61 week course for less than that. It doesnt matter what kind of licence you have. There were people with CPL ME/IRs down there and some had PPLs grading for the long course. Its purely an hours thing that determines what course you will go on.
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 01:20
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hahahahaha its definitely not an image thing. U cant even see my acne, like i got one red dot and thats it. Its just that i like to take doxycyclin for it because it reduces the redness and itchiness etc. haha image... what a joke. Aviation is bloody scared of medicine, thats all. Im kinda annoyed if i missed the november/ december boat because i mentioned that i take a drug for acne but atleast it gives me more time to prep i guess which is good
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 10:16
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make your self available for the ab initio course. Its only an extra 8 months, and the standards at flight grading will be lower
What makes you think that?
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 11:50
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they have to be at a commercial standard from the get-go. the normal flight grading is a partly a test of your capacity to be taught. if you are a commercial pilot, you will be tested on your ability to fly at an expected standard onto which they can mould an airline pilot in a much shorter time frame. therefore the standard is higher. if SW1 did not meet these standards, then grading for the longer course will not be as stringent... a lower standard.
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 18:50
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they would surely still base their assessment on how much actual flying experience you have?

for example, since 250 hours is the cutoff between the long course and short course, and there are 2 candidates, one with 30 hours experience and one with 220 hours, then wouldn't the 220 hour pilot still be expected to fly to a higher standard than the 30 hour pilot, regardless of if they both are going for the long course? So i would imagine that even though the 220 hour pilot might theoretically find it easier to do the assessment than the 30 hour pilot, they wouldn't be able to take it for granted since the flying assessors will still expect the 220 hour pilot to fly to a certain level, they surely couldn't fly to the standard of the 30 hour pilot and still expect to pass.

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Old 10th Nov 2010, 19:50
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is there a best time to apply? I havnt applied yet. Am i too late? I am in US. Anyone else in same boat as me?
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 20:03
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Any people in Hong Kong for stage 2/3, 15 and 16 November?
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 21:23
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Hi all...

Applied ages ago, and haven't heard a thing so far. Its been about 4 months now.

Any ideas on what is going on? Do they not reply if youre not successful, or are they working their way round by country and haven't got to the UK yet?

Any advice or info would be helpful...

Thanks..

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Old 10th Nov 2010, 22:54
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tu144, no specific time of the year to apply - just do it when you feel you are ready, you probably will have to wait for 6 or so months atleast to hear anything back for an interview though, goodluck
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 23:05
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i see. Has it always taken this long? Is it better to put hk for interview preference or doesnt matter? Thanks for your response
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Old 11th Nov 2010, 01:38
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With the opening of the cadetship to international applicants, you could imagine they'd just get flooded with a gazillion applications, so processing all those prospect cadets is not a short or quick process. 6 months seems to be about the norm, but its not unusual to wait upto nearly a year aswell. Some lucky people do managed to get called slightly earlier. HK probably will give you a better chance of getting an interview earlier, how much earlier? who knows, that and you will also have to be prepared to fork out for your plane ticket there for the first interview.

it really is just a matter of applying, then sitting and waiting patitently, in the mean time, take it as an opportunity to prepare.

Superjet, don't worry, 4 months is nothing! it can take upto a year before hearing anything back although its normally 6-12 months going by most folks experience on here.
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