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Old 3rd May 2012, 19:26
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I got an email from a recruiter today as well. I still have to call him/her to get the details. In the email, they want me to return to HK for the interview. Does anyone know if they will fly you out since they do have daily flights to/from Canada.
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Old 3rd May 2012, 22:02
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I applied as new entrant... have no flying experience or background.
Yes I am a HKID holder.

I saw someone got an interview at YVR... wonder why the recruiter wants me in HK in the email and not YVR instead. Guess I need to call them tonight to find out the details.
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Old 4th May 2012, 02:01
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I received the invite to YVR today. I have about 400 hrs but no HKID, just a Canadian Citizen.
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Old 4th May 2012, 03:09
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Hey Dex, just wondering when your interview in YVR is?
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Old 4th May 2012, 05:32
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@DexIkesa,

Hi,

Can you inform us please that when did you apply?

Have you applied on the S/O Advanced Entry form what they sent us to complete until 12 May or you just applied online on their webpage???

Thanks in advance.
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Old 4th May 2012, 07:09
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@ocanadaperfect

I have 40 hours on the C172.

Where did you get the book "ace the technical pilot interview" and the "preparing for your cathay pacific interview"?

They didn't e-mail me any of those?

Cheers!
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Old 4th May 2012, 14:01
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I hve been asked to YVR on the 31st of May, Yes I would be applying under the advanced entry (30 week) program. My only application so far has been on the website but I was emailed that Advanced entry form with the invite.
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Old 4th May 2012, 16:18
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@Brandon8

Google my friend.
They only e-mail you the "Aviation Knowledge" PDF.
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Old 5th May 2012, 02:11
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Dear all,

In fact, there is no clear statement saying that there is any difference between a 20-hour or 40-hour flying experience. However, I have done more than 2 years on my preparation. And I guess the reason why there is a technical interview is simply because you guys were interviewing outside HK. One of my friends who was interviewed outside HK also got this 'technical session'. What he was expected to know is:
Meteorology and Jet engine these two big topics. And these topics are kinda hot recently. So I would suggest you guys pay more attention to these areas.

For me, I am going to be interviewed in HK, I only got 4 sessions to go:

1. Reasoning test
2. Personality test
3. JKI
4. Personal interview

By the way, just by any chance anyone will be interviewed on the 23rd of May? If so, wanna meet up?

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Old 5th May 2012, 03:02
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Respectfully declining the offer

Yeah I spent the whole day reading this thread, crunching number, doing my own research. Not a chance. Not even going to go to the interview. A few tips. You are ALL over thinking this process. I went through the process of becoming a pilot for the Canadian Military. I went through Aircrew selection, all the interviews, testing medicals. I passed everything and was deemed ready to be trained as a Pilot. (however with little to no pilot positions available per year. They offered me Armoured Officer instead) I did all the same tests. math, WOMBAT, apititude etc. If you look at the military forum you see the same 17/18 year olds as you asking basically all the same questions and worrying their minds off about High school marks and extra curricular activities, and sports, volunteer time etc. Anything to give them an edge. I was an 86% average student graduating from high school. I was on no High school sports teams, never part of student council, had no community volunteer time. I didn't spend weeks with flash cards practising interview questions (just answer what they ask, no more, no less.) I sailed through the application and was Sworn in as an Officer in the Canadian forces (I have since Released/ retired) Now I know that all of you are likely type A personalities, prefectionists prone to panic, but CHILL. Enjoy life. My life has been far from easy (looking at the housing in Hong Kong that everyone complains about they are actually a lot better than where I currently live and I barely get paid enough to still have food left over at the end of the month.) For anyone with prior flight experience I strongly suggest passing on this. Even for those with no flight experience. If you do decide to do this. Relax, read the material, do NOT stress about those test. They test basic math, reflexes and hand eye coordination, learning curve, spatial orientation. Not exactly things you can study for (except math). Life is a journey not a destination. Cathay was never my destination, now I don't really even want it part of the journey. I'll be much happier on a navajo in the frozen north than on a 777 in HK touching nothing. In the 4 years till my upgrade to FO I could be at Westjet/ Aircanada or wherever I choose.
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Old 5th May 2012, 06:06
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@DexIkesa

Why would you ever want to work for Air Canada? They are on the verge of bankruptcy. A whole bunch of labour situations where pilots were calling in sick and flights were delayed last month. Seems like flight crews are not too happy to be working for AC.

Westjet, on the other hand, is probably a solid choice. I just wish they also had some kind of cadet program also. If they had long-haul flights that would be awesome!

Cathay Pacific is one of the top airlines in the world and you all know that. I have ab-initio in a week and cannot wait to go through the process, although I am a bit nervous. Being able to be in the cockpit for Cathay is my dream. They are a solid airline that constantly make profits despite the economic recession and I think that speaks for itself.

Anyone who hates on CX most likely were candidates who were rejected or never invited for an interview.

Whatever happens with my interview, if I get hired or not, I will still be a fan of Cathay and will always fly with them.

Whenever I travel to Hong Kong from Vancouver I have always had a pleasant time. Don't get me started on the Vancouver - Hong Kong flights with Air Canada. The 777 seats are cramped and uncomfortable. The flight attendants are horrible and their labour situations speak for itself.

GO CATHAY PACIFIC!
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Old 5th May 2012, 06:31
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Cathay Pacific is one of the top airlines in the world and you all know that.
Cathay Pacific WAS one of the top airlines.
 
Old 5th May 2012, 07:03
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@bond737

High fuel costs affect all airlines.

This is not a matter of poor management or no capital or no cash flow in the company.

This company made record profits after the 2008 recession and also during the late 1990 recession in Asia.

Air Canada, on the other hand, is poor management and workers are not satisfied at all. Now that is a problem!
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Old 5th May 2012, 14:08
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I am not sure who is right and who is wrong and I am trying to figure this out on my own, because I can see that many people write something here with no proof at all. I think maybe some of people on this forum want to mislead other young cadets whose only chance to become a pilot is through this cadet pilot programme. I am not saying some of you are not right, I just want to say to other fresh pilots here, do not believe everything is true what other say. Go and find out on your own. I intend to do so too, I am new here and as far as I am concerned I am going to prepare for the ab-initio test as much as I can eventhough I might not get all things as good as some say, but this is my best chance to become a pilot and I will take it with pleasure
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Old 5th May 2012, 14:45
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If you do not hold a permanent HKG id card you are not able to apply for the ab-initio course.
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Old 5th May 2012, 14:57
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In the 4 years till my upgrade to FO I could be at Westjet/ Aircanada or wherever I choose.
Well Brandon first you could learn to read. I said Westjet, Aircanada, or wherever I choose. I'm not sure I would work for either WJ or AC, they are examples. Second put down the Kool aid and think for a second. I have spent weeks at a time eating nothing but 1 bowl of oatmeal a day, because I was between paycheques. This would be that...for 5 years.

If you are from Canada or the US the options for you are MANY to become a pilot, the cadet program (once you have researched it) should never even be considered. Get a student loan, go to one of the subsidized colleges. Hell get a trade become a plumber or electrician or a welder and buy your own plane. Chase the lifestyle not the Iron, as they say. Most of you considering this program are young, have likely never left home, and just finishing high school, maybe college. IF you are finishing high school, use the money you would spend on university (40k+) and get your CPL multi IFR and floats. (did mine for $35k)
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Old 6th May 2012, 03:01
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So let's say I am able to afford a CPL or even a frozen ATPL on my own. I'm assuming I will still join CX as an SO. Will the payscale still be the same? And the time to promotion (even though it is still seniority-based) is still the same as an ab-initio?

While I'm here, how does promotion work? Do they look at SOs in order of entry and then send them notice of a test? If they pass, they progress? If they fail, they stay?

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Old 6th May 2012, 03:42
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Mathematics

Hi guys,
I'm new to this thread. I was wondering if anyone knows what the stage 2 mathematics test involves. An example question would be really helpful. I don't have a stage 2 interview as of now, but I am hoping I will get one.

Thanks guys
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Old 6th May 2012, 05:18
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Annual Increment?

Can someone please tell me how much is the value of annual increment in the salary of an SO? and is there any increment at all in the HKPA or does it stay constant at 10k $ throughout?
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Old 6th May 2012, 06:19
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Brandon08

HM......I don't have a doubt that you said CX its a good company....And everyone has a different definition of a 'decent' lifestyle. So theres really no point of arguing on these topics.

But what I wanna suggest you is you should really think of 'Why you wanna be a pilot?' Is that because CX can offer you some good $$ and give you training? etc etc.....I mean for me, or for most of the people here that who really wanna be a pilot, they actually look for some real FLYING TIME. I really dont see theres an issue of bush flying. Because that what real flying is about. You navigate yourself you learn how to handle different types of situations! Its an experience! It is a very valuable experience when you look back if you can become a captain one day. While you might wanna just WATCH two experience pilot flying and you sit at the back of watching, maybe i guess you love to see people fly or just because you love the benefits of being a CX cadet. But not actually 'FLYING' itself.

To be honest if you really love flying or i should use the word dedicate for flying, you should have used all your $$ to learn flying CPL etc etc and not complaining it cost a lot of money. Because you love it thats why its worth it. But seems you are not thinking this way.....

Anyway one last suggestion for your interview. If they ask you why would you wanna join CX and you say all these benefits etc etc. I am sure you wont pass stage 1.

Best of luck
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