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Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

Old 9th Jul 2011, 06:17
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I couldnít care what 49 out of 50 analysts are saying. Most have a vested interest in peddling a particular position.
Whereas you of course have no vested interest at all.
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Old 9th Jul 2011, 07:14
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crwjerk

Your figures are a little misleading. Most people joining the cadet scheme now will not have any experience with property in hong kong.

The way it works here and I am sure what the figures above are based on is incorrect to determine the size of a place. The actual area you get is not as large as in the adds as they include maybe some or all of the following, lift and lobby area split between units, huge windowsills as are common in hong kong, the walls, yes the thickness of the walls, outside ledges, balconies, etc.

The best you can hope to get is about 80%, so the 515sq/ft place listed above will be at most about 400sq/feet, think about it for a second, in fact better still measure out a 10 foot by 40 foot rectangle. Then imagine putting a bed into that square, a washing machine, fridge, kitchen, table, wardrobe, toilet, shower, wash basin, tv, book case, chest of drawers, maybe can still squeeze in a small sofa.

This is the reality of living in Hong Kong whilst trying to live in a cheap place in an area that is pleasant (for an expat). You have to buy a thin tv and most hotel rooms you stay in with work are bigger than your flat.

Not trying to put guys off as think it is an excellent scheme for a young, single, guy/girl who has little or no experience. If however you are married, have kids, think very carefully about what you are doing. A LOT of marriages break up at CX because the partner does not like HKG, this is whilst they are living in a really nice place with disposable income.
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Old 9th Jul 2011, 11:52
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Yeh, my motives are to improve the lot for all cadets at CX, not just the ones joining now. Whatís you motive? The race to the bottom after reading some of your posts would best describe your motives.
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Old 10th Jul 2011, 01:29
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CX CPP Application Query

Calling all North American applicants for this one.

On the Education Screen under "Examination / Level Achieved 1", has anyone experienced problems with the application successfully capturing any entry other than "HKCEE, HKALE, GCSE, GCE A Level, IB, OAC, HSC etc." under the "Subject" column?

Just curious if the entries you used other than those mentioned above were able to be captured / populated into the "Subject" fields.

Thanks ahead of time, and good luck to every one of you that has applied.


Standing by....
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Old 10th Jul 2011, 04:38
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My figures are not misleading. You do not go into an agency and ask for the net floor space, you get GROSS, what is on the window/brochure that is advertised. Voiceofreason has alluded to 1000 sqft in Disco Bay as being available for 18k, maybe so, my figures are what the brochure says as of now. In gross floor area, as advertised, and as paid for. I do not disagree with you that the net area is much smaller, it's just doesn't come into the figures.
 
Old 10th Jul 2011, 08:59
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Thanks for changing my mind

Disclaimer: I am currently enrolled in a University level program, part of which includes an integrated course to CPL/MECIR/Frozen ATPL. I have also elected not to continue on to stage two with CX; yes, it was offered.

Firstly, I'd like to thank those of you who have presented the current 'package' that is on offer in terms of not just the financial reward compared to what was once available, but also in terms of future prospects, lifestyles, and integrity of the profession.

Several days ago I started reading this thread with the intention of finding out a bit more on the cadet scheme and what it entailed. I have taken the time to read through every post and what I found was truly astonishing to me. I'm not speaking of pay and conditions - crappy as they are - either. I'm speaking of the utter nonsense that the people CX are actually taking the time to deal with are spewing forth here. It really does boggle the mind.

Much has been posted in a comical style 'pulling the piss' out of these kids so I won't even get into that, what I will get into is my shock that we have people on here who are 'training really hard on ms flight simulator', fatties asking about medicals, people saying "I've read everything and done so much research, but anyway, can you tell me what happens at the first interview" when there is hundreds of exactly the same types of posts answered ad nauseum! So many of the questions are things that anyone with one iota of interest in flying would know by now. I'm 34, I knew about class one medicals, license types, even bloody pressure level calcs before I was half way through High school *because it was interesting to think about how to get to my ultimate aim and what I needed to do to achieve it* - God help us if this is the best research they are capable of (it's not of course, they just want to be spoon fed instead of even taking the time to read a thread).

It was this never ending stream of garbage that turned me off the whole application process. Frankly I find the patience of most of those in the know on here exceptional; it's no wonder some snapped ;-)

I might be going through one of the integrated programs that so many on here pooh pooh, but at least it will be backed by a degree, and at least I spent the last 10 years working my backside off to be able to afford it. I'm glad I came here, I really am, at least now when all is said and done I will be getting my flight instructors license, enjoy the new people I will meet through that avenue, learn the ropes and move onto flying around the bush for a few years. By the time I've got the hours and experience I'll probably be to old for the airlines (thus the temptation of the scheme) but stuff it at least I'll be getting to where I'm going the way I always thought I would. Rant over
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Old 10th Jul 2011, 16:46
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^ like a lot
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Old 10th Jul 2011, 22:50
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But in most of the world you would not expect (as the following link outlines), this to apply when renting a flat in a high rise block. Most people who are looking at this cadet deal will be thinking they can get a 700 square foot place for what is advertised. Understand you were replying to a post about prices for a place in HKG but it is misleading due to HKG property practices. Not the comparison you made but what you get for your money.

Gross Floor Area | ExpatFlats
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Old 11th Jul 2011, 09:18
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CX interview stage 1

Had interview today for Stage 1. (I am for the 61 week-ab inito)
Practice reasoning test as much as you can. They are very challenging especially towards the end of the test. I did not finish, I left about 10 questions in my test.

JKI is like BAK, know it well and you will do ok.

Interview was good, know HK, lifestyle pros and cons. Why are you suited there??
Technical interview for me was ok, know the aircraft inside out, you dont need to no thrust output and all that other mumbo jumbo, just name of engine, differences between the AC, 777 vs A330..

Good luck to everyone!
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Old 11th Jul 2011, 11:14
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I have been reading through this thread for ages, from what I have seen so far is that this deal sounds pretty good! The pay you get is much higher then i would get starting at any job after uni. Also Hong kong sounds like an awesome place to live although i have never had the chance to visit, My friend from HK told me that i can easily get a decent place in mid-levels for 20 grand which leaves me adequate money for a comftable lifestyle. I just finished Oxford and I have over 200 hours and i think this is a better opportunity then paying for my own type rating with the likes of EZY and FR.
Anyway, i just thought I would voice my 2 pennies in order to reduce some of the negativity which is very apparent in this thread
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Old 11th Jul 2011, 14:52
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Stage 1 interview

Hi All,

I have a stage 1 interview coming up with Cathay in Hong Kong.

Im struggling to find info on the engine types used by the a/c at Cathay. Could anyone pass on the info please.

Also, AndrewNorris 1987 said to know the a/c inside out. Ive read up on them, seat capacity, number in fleet, long haul, short haul. What other things are they looking for?

Any help is much appreciated.

Kind regards
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Old 11th Jul 2011, 15:42
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If you read this thread you will find out what engines CX aircraft have.
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Old 11th Jul 2011, 19:02
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stage 1 V's Stage 2

Canvasing for opinions, did anyone feel that there was a reoccurring theme between stage 1 and stage 2 interviews?

Iím pretty sure they will ask further questions on the subjects you are weak on in stage 1, but is this as far as it goes?

For example, if you stated that you'd like to fly the 777, will they drill you on the 777 in stage 2?
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Old 13th Jul 2011, 11:41
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Out of interest, what is the average time from putting in your application into reviving contact to organising an interview?
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Old 14th Jul 2011, 10:09
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Cathay Applications

Congratulations on getting through to the first stage of interviews. Unfortunately I'm unable to help you with your question but perhaps you could help me?

I sent my application to Cathay's Cadet Programme last week. How long would you expect it to take before I got a response? My first choice interview location was England, Hong Kong was my second choice.

Thank you and the best of luck with your interview!
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Old 14th Jul 2011, 12:29
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18 months depending on the amount of applicants in your area.
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Old 14th Jul 2011, 17:25
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As per the hundreds of other responses on this subject, it varies wildly. I was 2 months, others wait years. Luck of the draw im afraid.
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Old 14th Jul 2011, 18:29
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CX stage 1 interview

AndrewNorris1987 is right. Yeah, you can wait for up to 18 months before you get that crucial email or call inviting you for the stage 1 interview. For me, I applied last year May 2010 (to be specific) and to date,14 months later, I haven't heard anything from CX except the usual automatic 'Your application is being processed...You application will be considered among with others on your Geographical location...' until lately when I have realized they have stopped replying to my emails. However, I understand that they will be coming to Jo'burg South Africa on August 2011, so I have my hopes up that I will make the initial cut. If you are one of those who chose Jo'burg SA as your initial interview location, and you got that interview-invite call, please let us know.
Finally, how can one know if your application was terminated even before the stage 1 interview? Thanks.
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Old 15th Jul 2011, 04:15
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Anyone know if they will/are offering Aussie bases to successful candidates?
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Old 15th Jul 2011, 04:32
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Anyone know if they will/are offering Aussie bases to successful candidates?
Yes, of course they are.

You can have your pick of any base you want, ahead of all the Captains, FOs and SOs currently in Hong Kong who've been waiting years to move home.

Oh. Wait a minute. The company doesn't save any money by offering you a base, so forget all that.
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