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Old 2nd Nov 2008, 11:14
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READ ALL THE THREADS AND THE ADVERTISMENT PAGE OF THE SIA WEBSITE!!!!

hope the company dont hire you guys whom do not show any interest and initiative to find out the ****** job that you guys are apply for!!!!

NEVER want to see such person in my cockpit asking me where the QRF are when in a crisis situation.....

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Old 2nd Nov 2008, 12:19
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cool it babe. yes, there's been quite a number of chaps asking qns that they can find answers to if they had bothered to search more thorougly. Unfortunately, most people nowadays are used to being spoonfed every damn thing. and of course, I'm pretty sure they do not know a particular 'Captain' who is like a living encyclopedia..

And yes, because of this recent recruitment drive in this particular region that you are referring to, a lot of incompetent buggers (from this sector) are asking a lot of such nonsensical qns. but you gotta know, when SIA has a recruitment drive here (i.e. SG, M'sia) we do have a fair share of idiots that ask (even more) qns of an equal level of (un)intelligence too, sometimes even surpassing that of our Indian friends..

But don't worry, even if these buggers make it to the 1st round, they will not make it through to the 2nd. Reason? Because they are simply too ignorant.

Hope that helps, our dear wannabe friends.

Good luck, or maybe, good bye.
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Old 2nd Nov 2008, 14:11
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Thanks FurtherMathematics. The Flight simulator thing looks really interesting..was hoping that it'll be below $100 though. Oh well..hopefully someone can feedback on whether it's worth it or not.

Quite surprised to see this in such a prominent area like the Flyer though at least it gives hopeless (hopeless as in no-SQ-chance) wannabes like me something to try out.
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Old 2nd Nov 2008, 14:15
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yah, not even cadets and expect to be spoonfed. Wouldn't want to fly with anyone of these who cant even be bothered to do a search.
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dude, u don't need to pay a single cent. but u wont be paid much either. i hope u r joking anyways. gd luck
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Old 2nd Nov 2008, 14:20
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erm sorry i was refering to Avesh. Avesh, just apply online. u may need to pay for the initial eye test. but with regards to the flying program, u dun need to pay anything.
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Old 2nd Nov 2008, 15:09
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And yes, because of this recent recruitment drive in this particular region that you are referring to, a lot of incompetent buggers (from this sector) are asking a lot of such nonsensical qns. but you gotta know, when SIA has a recruitment drive here (i.e. SG, M'sia) we do have a fair share of idiots that ask (even more) qns of an equal level of (un)intelligence too, sometimes even surpassing that of our Indian friends
Sir I wouldn't generalise a whole country on just one example. I agree that candidates should do ample research before asking questions. People are excited at this opportunity in a country where there are plenty of jobless pilots, so lets cut him some slack shall we?

Good luck to us all.
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Old 2nd Nov 2008, 17:16
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I agree with Mike Kilo Sierra...!

Well, Whoever gets selected will be efficient and on par with SIA standards, whether they're Singaporeans, Malays, Indians, Australians or from anywhere else!

But airbus_a380 & doraemoney are right in that they say that anyone who hopes of joining SIA does some research work without being lazy.

Doraemoney, thanks for pointing out that people who ask stupid questions, are not necessarily from any one country...they cud be from any country.

All the Best' to All!
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Old 2nd Nov 2008, 23:56
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i bet more such buggers will ask such qns in the future.

It's very unfortunate that there are such a high number of wannabes from a sector where the aviation industry has created so many unrealistic wannabes. But the applicants should have a minimum idea of what they are applying for, and not jumping into it without finding out what the career/training entails. Don't just follow the crowd. It's a mentality of 'monkey-see-monkey-do'..

Anyway, to all who have applied, happy waiting (and I mean it's a long long wait..) and good luck.

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Old 3rd Nov 2008, 04:12
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@doraemoney

well I am a bit new to this forum.. but certainly i liked it so much that i have browsed through a whole lot of threads.. and let me tell u my friend it is not only indians who ask such questions there are others as well and more in numbers.. generalizing the whole country for a bunch of people is surely a wrong move.. that too in such a professional portal.. i do not knw wht your qualifications are.. but let me tell you tht there are indian on this forum with some good airline flying experience and are offended by your statement.. but surely would not be commenting on it because sometimes dignity is maintained by remaining silent, but i thought atleast someone should point out

@Airbus_380

"NEVER want to see such person in my cockpit asking me where the QRF are when in a crisis situation..... "

well my thoughts are a bit contradicting than yours on this.. i believe if a person is sitting on the right seat with you in the cockpit .. you company has found him competent enough to be there.. and you should respect there decision... a captains job is not to point out mistakes and scold the **** out of his FO but his job is to bring that person sitting on the right seat to the left.. although the example you have given is a bit extreme but I did understood what u were trying to say..
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Old 3rd Nov 2008, 05:19
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Dear Psnake,

if you would read my previous post more carefully, I said A380 should not attack that particular sector, as we do have our fair share of ignorant applicants here in SG and M'sia:

"And yes, because of this recent recruitment drive in this particular region that you are referring to, a lot of incompetent buggers (from this sector) are asking a lot of such nonsensical qns. but you gotta know, when SIA has a recruitment drive here (i.e. SG, M'sia) we do have a fair share of idiots that ask (even more) qns of an equal level of (un)intelligence too, sometimes even surpassing that of our Indian friends.. "

Never did I try to generalise. In fact, I was telling A380 not to (but his/her thread had been edited after seeing my reply). I suppose you have misunderstood. Anyway, it's alright.

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Old 3rd Nov 2008, 06:31
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a captains job is not to point out mistakes and scold the **** out of his FO but his job is to bring that person sitting on the right seat to the left..
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If Captain's job is not to point out mistake? Get real! If u do not expect to be scolded by Capt, then good luck to you is all I can say.

If an FO makes a mistake with respect to safety, u expect the Captain to do nothing and pretend nothing happened?
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Old 3rd Nov 2008, 06:40
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Hi,

My thoughts were just merely towards the quality of people here whom just want to be spoon feed with information without even reading throught the advertisment for recruitment.

yes definetly flight crews are to work together and all will have the basic requirements for being a pilot. but take a look that any industry worldwide will have black sheeps around.... in schools in anywhere, doctors etc...therefore people with requirements doesnt mean they will perform as you perceive. Thus there is no point arguing about this point as you will experience what i meant if you have such situation before.

is there any point in time where you think that your teacher is not qualified yet he or she HOD or some senior personnel?

just my thoughts... yes cpts and fo work together but its cpts who are teaching the fo and with time to come the fo will be a capt in which the cycle will repeat.

great way to fly
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Old 3rd Nov 2008, 13:02
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doraemoney wateva......I hate your comment''sometimes even surpassing that of our Indian friends''Just wat the hell do you think of yourself ?If SIA comes to India, That makes you feel so insecure ?If you do not possess the intellect on how to speak in a public forum, you could just maintain a dignified silence .... Guys no freakin racist comments........!Lets just maintain the decorum.
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Old 3rd Nov 2008, 13:51
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@Avesh

@ Avesh

I got a mail for the additional asesment that they had added for candidated applying after the 23'rd of Oct, things like "Q. Are u afraid of murky water"

anyone got a reply back or an interview date btw?
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Old 3rd Nov 2008, 14:38
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doraemoney wateva......I hate your comment''sometimes even surpassing that of our Indian friends''Just wat the hell do you think of yourself
@Avesh: You dont need to get all heated up,just relax...You dont need to bring in racism into the topic. Its just a simple misunderstanding. The guy was just trying to be a sciolist. He just could not phrase what he wanted to say properly.

If SIA comes to India, That makes you feel so insecure ?
I beleive it does. Just ask any singaporean wannabe out there and they will tell you its unfair, atleast i know a couple who would.
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Old 3rd Nov 2008, 16:59
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I don't think there is any racism or insecurity involved. We are in this together. So lets not argue. Lets work together. We are all anxious and it is understandable, but doing a bit of research will go a long way, not only here but also ahead in life. All our questions have been answered here before in this thread itself.

After reading this thread and others, it seems the cadet selection process is a long one. Once shortlisted, SIA will contact you. Two interview rounds are held. 1st round comprises of basic questions depending on the interviewers and your educational background.

Second round is held over two days with group exercises, psychometry tests and it ends with a tea party wherein the candidates are still being rated. Successful candidates are sent for medicals. If selected SIA will inform you about which batch you will join and the fleet you are headed to. And yes SIA sponsors the training Avesh.

Hope this helps.
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I would like to clarify I had never meant to be degoratory nor racist in my comments. If anyone had misintepreted it as such, that's just too bad.

Yes, I believe all of us will try to find out the interview questions beforehand, but we will not ask it outright in a professional forum like this, at least not before we did a thorough search of it online.

To prevent any further misunderstanding, I have also said my piece and shall choose to remain silent from now on.

Cheers and good luck to all potential applicants.
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Old 4th Nov 2008, 03:36
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@doraemoney

well I understand that you were only trying A380 to not to attack that particular sector.. but i think maybe you phrased it in a bit offending words.... never mind its all fine if your intentions were right..

cheers

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If Captain's job is not to point out mistake? Get real! If u do not expect to be scolded by Capt, then good luck to you is all I can say.
well .. what I was trying to say is that captains job is not ONLY to point out mistakes but also to teach his FO the right things as well. Pointing out mistakes is not difficult.. even if you go jump seat some FO after just doing a type rating course you may be able to point out one or two mistakes.. but its the solution which is important.. and the way you encourage your FO to learn more.. if your idea of teaching is kick the **** out of your student.. good luck to you and your FO.!!

If an FO makes a mistake with respect to safety, u expect the Captain to do nothing and pretend nothing happened?
thats what you interpret of my statement.. !!


I beleive it does. Just ask any singaporean wannabe out there and they will tell you its unfair, atleast i know a couple who would.
if that is the case it is infact very sad.. from the inception of the aviation boom in India we have seen so many expats flying for us even FO's not just captiains.. although people who protest are always there.. but what I believe why we hired them was because of our own need.. and believe me even SIA is not out for social work and welfare for india.. they might be having some requirement for indian citizens.. who knw's they want to expand their operations in India.. and who do you think will be the best person to fly and be based in India.. a singaporean or an Indian.. would you be happy to stay away from home.. its all about personal choice.. what i am trying to say is there is no question of being against it.. but if you are its your choice.. no offence to anyone..

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PSnake

not trying to hit back or watever, in case u think i am

truth is, I wish all line capts are nice and provide me with solutions for my mistakes in the past. But in reality..... its another matter. Its just like u have nice teachers who point out your mistakes nicely, and u also have teachers to scream the hell out of you for the slightest mistake u make.

I subscibe to theory X in management theory, but also there are theory Y captains around. I do hope when u are in the left seat, you are a theory X cos that is wat I personally believe.

Lets move on. But for potential wannabes, it'll do many people a favour by doing a search before posint any questions.
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