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MidgetBoy,
SIA wants the best training possible for their cadets/pilots.
So what did they do? They set up their own flying school, Singapore Flying College. Say what you want but, when it comes to training ab-initio to the RHS of a widebody, no other school/academy/college comes close.
I don't doubt the capability of your prefered school but dude, the cost of 'your' training proposal doesn't give SIA much control of the training of pilots that they want to create. They are not going to short-change the training of their pilots. In this training aspect, it's not the money they are worried about.
SFC motto. 'Bene Docere' 'Teaching it Right'
SIA wants the best training possible for their cadets/pilots.
So what did they do? They set up their own flying school, Singapore Flying College. Say what you want but, when it comes to training ab-initio to the RHS of a widebody, no other school/academy/college comes close.
I don't doubt the capability of your prefered school but dude, the cost of 'your' training proposal doesn't give SIA much control of the training of pilots that they want to create. They are not going to short-change the training of their pilots. In this training aspect, it's not the money they are worried about.
SFC motto. 'Bene Docere' 'Teaching it Right'
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Midgetboy: name of user & AC Schnitzer are right, SIA training only in Singapore and Australia. School fee is of no problem to the world biggest airline.
There are people selected for SIA cadet, to be short listed, you will need a Hong Kong degree in honours (if I m not wrong, should be engineering background)!!! Since you are holding Hong Kong identity card there are only a handful selected from Hong Kong, the interview is in Hong Kong as well.
Since you can get your father to teach you to course in Canada, just get the training and flying hours to apply CX or other LCCs.
SIA continues to employ cadet fr singapore, hong kong, india and malaysia...so can you imaging how many people applying???
unlike the CX cadet interview you went last week, HKCEE or HKALE or diploma or Degree and you juz have to be 18 yrs hong kong citizen.
SIA education requirement is definitely higher: in addition to degree/diploma/A level, u needs Cambridge O level 5 pass in one sitting with English, maths, science.
For your information,
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There are people selected for SIA cadet, to be short listed, you will need a Hong Kong degree in honours (if I m not wrong, should be engineering background)!!! Since you are holding Hong Kong identity card there are only a handful selected from Hong Kong, the interview is in Hong Kong as well.
Since you can get your father to teach you to course in Canada, just get the training and flying hours to apply CX or other LCCs.
SIA continues to employ cadet fr singapore, hong kong, india and malaysia...so can you imaging how many people applying???
unlike the CX cadet interview you went last week, HKCEE or HKALE or diploma or Degree and you juz have to be 18 yrs hong kong citizen.
SIA education requirement is definitely higher: in addition to degree/diploma/A level, u needs Cambridge O level 5 pass in one sitting with English, maths, science.
For your information,
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Yeah, I understand that, but I have to wait a year to apply for Cx again. Though, if 26 is the min age for SIA's CPP, then I'll have to do something else for 12 months until I can apply for Cx..
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How strict is SIA about its 'pure science' requirement?
I did combined science at O levels, thinking there qoud be no hope to fly since my eyesight (short-sighted) is about 300 degrees. But recently it seems the eyesight requirement has been relaxed somewhat, so my hope of getting into the cockpit has been renewed.
And the minimum age is 26 for cadet pilots? Wouldnt it make more sense to get younger people who can serve them longer? (im 22 btw, studying in alocal uni).
I did combined science at O levels, thinking there qoud be no hope to fly since my eyesight (short-sighted) is about 300 degrees. But recently it seems the eyesight requirement has been relaxed somewhat, so my hope of getting into the cockpit has been renewed.
And the minimum age is 26 for cadet pilots? Wouldnt it make more sense to get younger people who can serve them longer? (im 22 btw, studying in alocal uni).
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if you are singapore citizen holding pink IC, pls note the minimum to enter the profession is 26, this is a agreement with republic of singapore air force with the government, it is stipulated in civil aviation regulations, there is no such thing as serving them longer, there are people inside SIA that are previously doctors, dentists, lawyers, economists which have worked many yrs outside before joining them.
you can have myopia 500 but if your visual acuity is more than 6/60 unaid then pardon to say you are out.
i know of ppl with 400 but visual acuity more than 6/60. it really depends how man rows of letter you can see the snellen chart without your spectales. i m having 450 but visual acuity just nice 6/60 unaid.
but if you are trying for airforce pilot application, you will just need 500 and below for both eye.
but one thing i m very sure, you must have 5 O level passes in one sitting with english, maths, science plus your 2A 2AO or diploma or degree and more than 1.65m in height as i have seen people sent off by SIA HR home before the interview as these information are not captured during your online applicaiton.
hope all is clear...
you can have myopia 500 but if your visual acuity is more than 6/60 unaid then pardon to say you are out.
i know of ppl with 400 but visual acuity more than 6/60. it really depends how man rows of letter you can see the snellen chart without your spectales. i m having 450 but visual acuity just nice 6/60 unaid.
but if you are trying for airforce pilot application, you will just need 500 and below for both eye.
but one thing i m very sure, you must have 5 O level passes in one sitting with english, maths, science plus your 2A 2AO or diploma or degree and more than 1.65m in height as i have seen people sent off by SIA HR home before the interview as these information are not captured during your online applicaiton.
hope all is clear...
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hello guys, new here.
Regarding "the minimum age to enter the profession is 26", does that mean that one should apply only when he is 26?
Does eyesight play a big part in getting selected?
Regarding "the minimum age to enter the profession is 26", does that mean that one should apply only when he is 26?
Does eyesight play a big part in getting selected?
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nazri,
SIA will call you up for the interview even if you have combined science and you meet all the requirements as stipulated by benedictz. Your eye sight doesnt seem to be a problem, go get it tested and make sure you dont exceed 6/60.
The age limit of 26 is not decided by SIA they would rather take you as young as 18. However, RSAF has given them some leeway to take cadets in starting from late 24s and 25. I guess you can submit your application if you're one or two month away from your 25th birthday. No harm.
For those who have gone for RSAF pilot scheme and got dropped, you are eligible to join SIA even before 24. But the way the candidates are shortlisted in SIA, they wouldn't know if you have gone for the RSAF scheme or not. Best if you write in and clearly state that you have gone for RSAF and not made it.
SIA will call you up for the interview even if you have combined science and you meet all the requirements as stipulated by benedictz. Your eye sight doesnt seem to be a problem, go get it tested and make sure you dont exceed 6/60.
The age limit of 26 is not decided by SIA they would rather take you as young as 18. However, RSAF has given them some leeway to take cadets in starting from late 24s and 25. I guess you can submit your application if you're one or two month away from your 25th birthday. No harm.
For those who have gone for RSAF pilot scheme and got dropped, you are eligible to join SIA even before 24. But the way the candidates are shortlisted in SIA, they wouldn't know if you have gone for the RSAF scheme or not. Best if you write in and clearly state that you have gone for RSAF and not made it.
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just to add: before the interview commence, there will be a questionnaire for you to fill up: whether are you afraid of dark places, can you swim, one thing you afraid most, afraid of choppy water, your previous state in airforce whether you make it to 8 or 12 yrs or drop during training or air-grading...? blah blah blah...
meeting the bare minimum is easy: (5 O credits - 1 Sitting only! plus your 2A&2AO/diploma/degree) the higher the qualification, the more favourable you are as you know this is Singapore culture!
(during my 30 months of national service with airforce, i was lead by a 'monkey' from local university grad...i believe it is not just my unit, it happens everywhere in the armed forces around the world!)
the task is to find an academically inclined and passion for aviation person for this job!
Cheer & Happy New Year to all....
meeting the bare minimum is easy: (5 O credits - 1 Sitting only! plus your 2A&2AO/diploma/degree) the higher the qualification, the more favourable you are as you know this is Singapore culture!
(during my 30 months of national service with airforce, i was lead by a 'monkey' from local university grad...i believe it is not just my unit, it happens everywhere in the armed forces around the world!)
the task is to find an academically inclined and passion for aviation person for this job!
Cheer & Happy New Year to all....
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urgent matter
Hello everyone, I have just been called to do a medical test prior my first interview in Hong Kong ( I have applied SQ Cadet Pilot Programme (Hong Kong) ) . Unfortunately, I am born to be colour-deficient
and I have failed the Ishihara test for my Class 2 Medical in Australia. I would like to know whether Singapore Airlines cockpit crew medical (or CAAS class 1 medical) would accept any alternative methods for testing colour vision? say farnsworth lantern test or light gun test. My interview is scheduled on the next week. Now I am thinking of going to make an appointment to do a lantern test or something, and send them the results as well and see how it goes.
and I have failed the Ishihara test for my Class 2 Medical in Australia. I would like to know whether Singapore Airlines cockpit crew medical (or CAAS class 1 medical) would accept any alternative methods for testing colour vision? say farnsworth lantern test or light gun test. My interview is scheduled on the next week. Now I am thinking of going to make an appointment to do a lantern test or something, and send them the results as well and see how it goes.
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No 18 year old is going to have a degree in engineering though. And if they did, they probably weren't thinking about airlines to begin with.
Out of curiosity, the RSAF sounds like the airforce so it's okay to assume that the 26 age limit is only for SIA applicants? What about applicants applying for Hong Kong and such?
Out of curiosity, the RSAF sounds like the airforce so it's okay to assume that the 26 age limit is only for SIA applicants? What about applicants applying for Hong Kong and such?
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Hello everyone, I have just been called to do a medical test prior my first interview in Hong Kong ( I have applied SQ Cadet Pilot Programme (Hong Kong) ) . Unfortunately, I am born to be colour-deficient and I have failed the Ishihara test for my Class 2 Medical in Australia. I would like to know whether Singapore Airlines cockpit crew medical (or CAAS class 1 medical) would accept any alternative methods for testing colour vision? say farnsworth lantern test or light gun test. My interview is scheduled on the next Friday. Now I am thinking of going to make an appointment to do a lantern test or something, and send them the results as well and see how it goes.
However, I doubt you can skip the Ishihara test though. It's standard testing and i don't think they'll make exceptions. However, the cards used by the docters here may be different from the ones in Australia. I mean it's the same stack, but just different cards from the same stack. Anyway, good luck.
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No 18 year old is going to have a degree in engineering though. And if they did, they probably weren't thinking about airlines to begin with.
Out of curiosity, the RSAF sounds like the airforce so it's okay to assume that the 26 age limit is only for SIA applicants? What about applicants applying for Hong Kong and such?
Out of curiosity, the RSAF sounds like the airforce so it's okay to assume that the 26 age limit is only for SIA applicants? What about applicants applying for Hong Kong and such?
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Hello everyone, I have just been called to do a medical test prior my first interview in Hong Kong ( I have applied SQ Cadet Pilot Programme (Hong Kong) ) . Unfortunately, I am born to be colour-deficient and I have failed the Ishihara test for my Class 2 Medical in Australia. I would like to know whether Singapore Airlines cockpit crew medical (or CAAS class 1 medical) would accept any alternative methods for testing colour vision? say farnsworth lantern test or light gun test. My interview is scheduled on the next Friday. Now I am thinking of going to make an appointment to do a lantern test or something, and send them the results as well and see how it goes.
http://www.caas.gov.sg/caasWeb/expor..._Amendment.pdf
Refer to Section 3:
3 COLOUR PERCEPTION REQUIREMENTS
3.1 The applicant shall be required to demonstrate the ability to perceive readily those colours the perception of which is necessary for the safe performance of duties.
3.2 The applicant shall be tested for the ability to correctly identify a series of pseudoisochromatic plates in daylight or in artificial light of the same colour temperature such as that provided by CIE standard illuminants C or D65 as specified by the International Commission on Illumination (CIE).
3.3 An applicant obtaining a satisfactory result as prescribed by the evaluating medical examiner shall be assessed as fit. An applicant failing to obtain a satisfactory result in such a test shall be assessed as unfit unless able to readily distinguish the colours used in air navigation and correctly identify aviation coloured lights. Applicants who fail to meet these criteria shall be assessed as unfit.
3.3.1 Sunglasses worn during the exercise of the privileges of the licence or rating held shall be nonpolarizing and of a neutral grey tint.
An interpretation of these requirements are therefore:
3.2. The Ishihara test will be the standard test.
3.3. The opinion of the examining doctor as to whether your result is satisfactory or not is the final decision.
If you can't pass the Ishihara test you should not be flying. You are a hazard to your fellow pilots if ever you get a license by memorizing the plates.
You may like to know that your first medical examination will be conducted at the Civil Aviation Medical Board, and then thereafter at least once every four medicals. For sure they will make yo do the Ishihara test. They also rearrange the sequence of the plates at near random. Your chances of passing that test using memorisation techniques are very slim indeed.
It is better to never qualify than to qualify based on trickery and then discover that you may have to pay back the training bond. SIA views such attempts at circumventing regulations very seriously and will not hesitate to sack you particularly if you are only a cadet.
As a matter of interest the Farnsworth Lantern test is not much more successful than the Ishihara test (ie in rare cases someone who fails the Ishihars may pass the Farnsworth Lantern Test):
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...12/ai_n9009350
SIA is not so desperate that it will invest in salvaging potential cadets who have failed the Ishihara on the rare chance that he might pass the Farnsworth.
In any case, even if they do put up c ase for you, CAAS still does not accept the Farnsworth test.
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Well there is an application form for HK Cadets, and it doesn't seem to say anything about age on any of the application forms.
The website says Hong Kong, Penang, Kuala Lumpur are the different cities that SIA offers it's cadet program to.
So there's HK (China) and Malaysia, can't Singaporeans apply? =P
The website says Hong Kong, Penang, Kuala Lumpur are the different cities that SIA offers it's cadet program to.
So there's HK (China) and Malaysia, can't Singaporeans apply? =P
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Hi all...
I'm a Singapore PR originally from Indonesia. I did not take any GCE O level subjects because I graduated my junior and senior high school in Indonesia and I already have a degree in Computer Science. I'm thinking of taking the O level exam to fulfill the cadet pilot requirement. Do you guys think that is possible?
Could anyone pm me the number of SIA HR dept or help me ask them about it? I highly appreciate your help. Thanks...
I'm a Singapore PR originally from Indonesia. I did not take any GCE O level subjects because I graduated my junior and senior high school in Indonesia and I already have a degree in Computer Science. I'm thinking of taking the O level exam to fulfill the cadet pilot requirement. Do you guys think that is possible?
Could anyone pm me the number of SIA HR dept or help me ask them about it? I highly appreciate your help. Thanks...
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i was led to believe that if i met the minimum requirements, SIA would at the very least grant me an interview. but nooo, guess what, I didnt even get a sniff.
some background info, I'm 26, 1.8m, 7 'O's (pure physics), 3'A's, 2'AO's, last year in uni reading e.eng. eyesight, R: 200 astig 175 6/24 L: 150 astig 175 6/18.
2 days after i submitted the online application, it was rejected. i'm miffed.
at the same time, i found out that i passed the RSAF computer test and now waiting for them to schedule an interview.
some ppl have mentioned in another forum that it could be my astig. and that it has to be lower than 150.
i'm quite sure it's not about my eyesight, hell, i represent my division for shooting competition.
having a parent in SIA doesnt help either.
some background info, I'm 26, 1.8m, 7 'O's (pure physics), 3'A's, 2'AO's, last year in uni reading e.eng. eyesight, R: 200 astig 175 6/24 L: 150 astig 175 6/18.
2 days after i submitted the online application, it was rejected. i'm miffed.
at the same time, i found out that i passed the RSAF computer test and now waiting for them to schedule an interview.
some ppl have mentioned in another forum that it could be my astig. and that it has to be lower than 150.
i'm quite sure it's not about my eyesight, hell, i represent my division for shooting competition.
having a parent in SIA doesnt help either.
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