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Old 16th May 2008, 09:23
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Exactly “Reality.”
Anyone who doesn’t feel 100% should seek a Doctors opinion.
If the Doc says you need a few days off, then so be it.
Just keep letting that annual leave accumulate.
If this is the game QF want to play, then play it their way.
No Goodwill….. but lots of sick days owed to me.
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Old 16th May 2008, 09:30
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Be very careful about shiftchanges or the company may decide to enforce shift changes for who they please to fill gaps with 2 days notice ( policy )
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Old 16th May 2008, 10:38
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Why does GD keep mentioning fuel prices. Does he expects his workforce to pay for the increases and not the customer??

Im sure he wouldnt be prepared to pay for QANTAS fuel bill out of his take home pay.
Oh thats it, If we pay for it with a pitiful wage rise and keep profits from falling then he still gets his massive, self appreciating "By God Ive done more for the company than anyone and Ive God damn earned it, bonus"

Whose fault is it that you only hedged 25% of fuel after July. Its not the workers so why should we pay for it????

GD is obviously determined to spend as little as he can on internal infrastructure and employee relations to make the books look good but all this does is build a house of cards
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Old 16th May 2008, 10:42
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Also Interesting fact, Newport aviation, start up company by founder of another company known to many.

FORSTAFF
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Old 16th May 2008, 21:12
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I see Resumedomain is advertising for LAMES with heavy jet experience again. Have a look on seek.com.au

Although if you look at the advertisement closely it is only a contract/temp position.

Gee, I wonder who the employer is??????????????????
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Old 16th May 2008, 22:59
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Newport

Maybe a former HM Mgr KC is the face of Newport not Forstaff
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Old 16th May 2008, 23:20
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Maybe a former HM Mgr KC is the face of Newport not Forstaff
Today 21:12
71trident, he was involved with the training and reactivation of the group they got late last year. It would seem that after his consultancy with State Rail he was lured in to organise as many LAMEs' as possible, not two years after kneecapping SYD Heavy Maintenance.

Numbskull, you are quite correct in your inference, and it would suggest to me that probably mid way through last week, David Cox has realised "I aint got no LAMEs' in reserve!!!!" I find it quite amusing the reference in the print media to this "group from Malaysia" that have been organised to save Qantas Engineering and keep the network in the air. There is at best 28 blokes, most washed up has-beens and malcontents. This is hardly the Patricks stoush re visited. There is not enough trained engineers.
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Old 16th May 2008, 23:55
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LAMEs, I have just been asked a question that was also put to me in a different version yesterday. In today's instance LAMEs are being asked to fly oveseas for an engine change. We have said we do not have a problem with overseas postings. We also have a complete protected action ban on overtime for your days off.

In conclusion you do not travel to an overseas posting or aircraft recovey on your day off. You do not accept a shift change to facilitate the company wishes as you have an ALAEA agreed extended hour roster. You do not accept time in lieu as this is not part of any agreement and to put it simply, you do not go unless the outbound travel is on a day that you are rostered for normal duty and you want to go.

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Old 16th May 2008, 23:59
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Manpower Shortage

Exactly right company spy. The few scabs they have in place wont get many aircraft flying. With the support of the pilots the transit authority scabs will be useless. Dixon doesnt realise that all staff are on our side and will do as much as they can to help our cause. The comment the other day "there will be no balaclavas and no dog's" was only made because there is insuffient staff to replace us.G.D would love to lock us out but cant.He needs us more that we need him. We will stick together and we will win.Lets spend the first few dollars of our well deserved pay rise on a few cold ones.
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Old 17th May 2008, 01:59
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In conclusion you do not travel to an overseas posting or aircraft recovey on your day off. You do not accept a shift change to facilitate the company wishes as you have an ALAEA agreed extended hour roster. You do not accept time in lieu as this is not part of any agreement and to put it simply, you do not go unless the outbound travel is on a day that you are rostered for normal duty and you want to go.

That is unless you want your section to go to an eight hour roster

Nice one Bexley boys
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Old 17th May 2008, 02:03
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Mandatory Listening

http://www.mytalk.com.au/aspx/pages/...t=audio&w=5751

2UE RADIO. IS THIS HOW YOU FEEL? A MUST LISTEN! ENJOY!
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Old 17th May 2008, 03:53
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With regards to the overseas engine change,
DON'T GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what will really hurt the company.
They don't have enough aircraft as is, and having
one grounded will just add to their pain.
All we need to do is our normal duties and
the fleet will do the rest for us.
Now is the time that QF's budget overseas checks
will come back to bite them HARD.
It's time to make those lying incompetent lackeys
pay for all the harm they have done to ours, and
QF engineering's reputation, all in the name of personnel
bonuses.
Oh yeah, I wouldn't mind a 5% pay rise either as my fuel
costs have gone up as well, and unlike Qf management I
don't have a corperate expense card.
I have to pay for my own fuel and most of my fuel gets
burnt driving to work
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Old 17th May 2008, 04:02
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Regarding engine changes away or AOG aircraft,what alaea fedsec and murray atwell are saying is dont go, Due to O/T pia bans.
Is this correct ?

Also the threat of 8 hr rosters, Is this across the board or only for the 330 crews ?
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Old 17th May 2008, 04:02
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Fuel is not the only cost now rising!

Now morale costs have gone up overnight!
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Old 17th May 2008, 04:11
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Chemical - If you are on shift for the Overseas engine change, Yes go. If you are not on shift, you don't go. Simple as that. PIA is for the benefit of all LAMEs, think of the whole and stay united.

Acute Instinct - Absolute exceptional listening. Shows how morally bankrupt QF / QE management are.

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Old 17th May 2008, 04:24
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If QE management are stupid enough to bring in an 8 hour shift, let them. They can do it anytime they want. Don't worry about having threats hanging over your head.

MH tried that one in Perth, it was he who backed down not the LAMEs.
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Old 17th May 2008, 04:24
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Guess if you were on shift you would have to have a passport handy, Now i dont remember where i put mine.
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Old 17th May 2008, 05:36
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If QE management are stupid enough to bring in an 8 hour shift, let them. They can do it anytime they want. Don't worry about having threats hanging over your head.

MH tried that one in Perth, it was he who backed down not the LAMEs.

LOL Let them bring in the 8 hour shift,I'll spend the first 20-30 maybe 40 mins of every day logging on to the company emails.First up,do password resets,15 minutes. Next log on and get an up to date thourough understanding of any and all read and signs and continuos training.

****,sorry boss,did I cause a delay to the pushback,I'm sorry(NOT)

Better fill out the delay report- (30 minutes)

8 hour shift, lol, bring it on.

****,is that my next aircraft thats been standing off at the gate for the last 30 minutes.
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Old 17th May 2008, 08:21
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engine change overseas

please tell me no one has gone to singapore on overtime for the engine change, it will be pretty easy to track who has gone considering the such lack of 330 license coverage in base.
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Old 17th May 2008, 08:51
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Resumedomain.com ads on seek

http://www.seek.com.au/jobsearch/ind...ccupation=1329


On a slightly different note... In true QF management style, it is not really 'cost effective' having the scabs flying around and staying in hotels while waiting in desperate anticipation of the ALAEA's next move. So some bright spark has come up with the ingenious idea of hiring the scabs and keeping them at their home base. Problem is where are they going to come from? You got rid of a heap of dedicated people and most of them with a conscience. Most have moved on and I am sure that when they know they'll be used for scabbing, they will steer clear. I have faith in them. Sure some of them may have already signed up, but they haven't stepped foot in the place,and I don't think that they will have a very likeable work environment. Is it really worth the scab money???


Also, don't be a hero for the Singapore Junket. Stay clear of it and maintain the pressure. These incidents happen for a reason. We must use them to our advantage...

It's got to make you laugh but how often do you get a tailpipe fire in a foreign port needing an engine change? What timing...

Stay home and enjoy your family. The time will never return but the money you can make another day.

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