Merged: QANTAS/ALAEA EBA

[Sunfish]

I heard Mr. Dixon on ABC radio yesterday, to put it mildly, I was unimpressed. He refused to confirm or deny the Newport Aviation allegation and he waffled on about QF dealing with "a lot of contractors and agencies". Three times the interviewer tried to pry this out of him.

He also repeated the allegation that the union had "reneged" on an agreement struck in February. You could hear the contempt for his workforce in his voice, which to me is unsurprising because the Board and his senior management is populated by narcissists (The media has now woken up to this phenomena and now terms them "Industrial Psychopaths") who care not a jot for the "little people" that work for them.

BTW, brilliant post by Take Five, and that bit about positioning JAL at stand 92, much to JAL's displeasure, is a classic narcissistic ploy by someone who now feels much more important as a result.

[wanty]

Huge workload coming up in Melbourne base this week,with everyone feeling ill and fatigued,no one working OT,however will they cope ????

Ring Ring Ring Ring. I'm sorry,we are not home at the moment,if you'd like to leave your name and number we'll get back to you as soon as possible.

NOT. ROFL

QF

US

[sydney s/h]

Well if you look at just some of the departures out of SIT yesterday it appears that the go slow is working! Good luck guys!


QF163 Auckland 07:15 10:53 Departed
QF167 Cairns 08:05 Cancelled
QF327 Papeete 09:05 16:06 Departed
QF367 Seoul 09:10 13:17 Departed
QF129 Shanghai 09:25 10:02 Departed
QF81 Adelaide 09:30 10:29 Departed
QF107 Los Angeles 10:20 14:38 Departed
QF127 Hong Kong 10:45 13:42 Departed
LA800 Auckland 10:55 15:20 Departed
QF19 Brisbane 11:10 13:11 Departed
JQ17 Osaka 11:30 12:25 Departed
JQ65 Kuala Lumpur 12:15 13:16 Departed

[employes perspective]

i just rewarded my staff with a 15% to 26% pay increase for the last 18 months,they are a semi skilled workforce,and my cost has been rising also for that period(transport,cost of capital,rents,new taxes,capital expenditure),but i see my staff as my most valuable asset,oh and at there Christmas party they got a bit more than a $10 voucher.
Before long my staff will be on wage parity with a grade 3 LAME and don't forget they are semi skilled,perhaps in the near future i will be able to offer you guys a better paying position.cheers

[PIOT Bord]

Round 1 Win By ALAEA

Excellent work SP, PC, WV and others.

- Prominent positive coverage in all major Aussie newspapers and TV networks

- Forced Dixon to become personally involved via a press meeting (Couldn't give a straight answer on Newport Aviation, or if they were going to use sc@bs)

- Kept public on side by not causing too much inconvenience

- Qantas' costs to prevent a fair and reasonable pay rise becoming excessive

- Engaging ACTU and other unions into renumeration negotiations escalates size of headache Qantas now has to deal with.

- First major financial institution has expressed concern to Qantas about the damage this issue is causing.

[division1]

All this talk of Newport Aviation has got my attention,
wondering why i can't find any internet links to the company.
It seems the business name is already in use as well,

NEWPORT AVIATION LLC
NEWPORT AIRPORT FOREST AVE
MIDDLETOWN,Rhode Island
02842

So the only references to them seem to be media reports, hmmm,
now there's a bad smell hanging around this scab hiring affair.

[Pist n Broke]

Newport Aviation

Straight off the ABR

ABN: 14 127 617 396
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[shaftedagain!]

Big Picture

Brothers,
Firstly, I'd like to congratulate our Executive on the fantastic job they've done so far, okay we had a hiccup with the first round of PIA but hopefully lessons have been learnt.
Secondly, I'd like everyone to think about just what you want from this EBA. Sure, I'd love a straight 5% basic increase (which is certainly no more that we deserve) but with GD worried about the flow on effect to other Unions (a possible $360 million wages blow-out) I'm pretty sure the Company will go as far as it can to ensure this goal is not achieved. This is why I believe we need to be flexible in how we achieve a fair outcome, maybe 3% plus a Level for everyone, the lifting of quota's, 1% Super for all, LAME's start at Level 4 etc Remember this dispute is not about crushing the LAME's, it's about keeping a 3% wage cap on all non-managerial QF staff.
Lastly, I'd like to remind us all to read the ALAEA Notices carefully (and read between the lines where necessary), this PIA O/T ban may well be the precursor to wider action but I think it's pretty obvious that we should all only be carrying out the required duties of a LAME and any goodwill shown towards the Company will just prolong the dispute. Think long and hard before you step into the breach by carrying out Higher Duties and Secondments, we're all in this together, support each other, support the ALAEA Executive and carry out your job to the best of your ability.
Remember there's more than one way to skin a cat (in this case a very fat cat!)
SA

[The cougar]

Make sure all the Sydney engineers do a quick stopover at admin 1. Take the elevator to the 11th floor and take the fire stairs to the 12th floor. I hear there is lots of glass, it is poorly gaurded and you can have a good look at their crisis responce center! The fat controller is on some serious ulcer medication now.

[wanty]

lol............

[YOSHI]

Good to see some action at last. By being united we will get a better outcome than the silly offer that QF has made.

I will have to agree that LAMEA380 has a piont that there may be a 'new player' out there! And that QF may be entitled to use outside contractors to perform work on its behalf!

But QF would have to first get rid of it's existing workforce, by makeing them all redundant.

The question I have for LAMEA380 is this , considering that QF employ at least half of the country's LAMEs, where can any 'new player' get it's workforce from? Bearing in mind that there is a skills shortage generaly, and QF(or any other company) has failed to train any significant numbers of AMEs over the last several years, the 'new player' would depend on ex QF workforce to join them. The older LAMEs will be looking for semi-retirement jobs and the younger guys will look overseas for the better paying contracts, while others will look at other industries. This will leave QF in a very vulnerable position, one that could cause the company to collapse, all of it's own doing. Now where would that leave the shareholders?

[Short_Circuit]

I would be very worried about refusing higher duties unless directed to by the association as part of PIA.
It is part of the normal duties of LAME & Snr LAME especially if on the same day & shift.
You would have to have a real good excuse to say no to it, then continue working as a LAME.
In fact, by doing the higher duty, this takes a LAME off the floor and
further reduces the workforce at the coal face.
If it required O/T or shift change, the answer is obviously, NO, I have plans made.
You don't have to bust your guts working just because you are doing H.D.

PS

take 5 (%)

[shaftedagain!]

Higher Duties

I have to disagree Shortie, if you are not a Senior, when have you had the appropriate training to carry out the responsibilities of L/H? If you are not confident enough to carry out the position then you don't have to. Of course if you're a permanent actor then you have no choice, I myself have been asked to do this role during a dispute and have simply declined.....they had to get a DMM to step down while the Manager sat in his office, now that causes issues.
SA

[Short_Circuit]

Of course if you're a permanent actor then you have no choice

I thought that was a given in my statement.

For the rest of your comment spot on .

Refusing higher duties for permanents may come, awaiting the order from Bexley.

[wanty]

LOL, I could handle BL stepping down to a l/hand role,not a problem,he is a great bloke, but certainly not T..y L....r filling the DMM role.

TL has no idea about engineering whatsoever.

[PIOT Bord]

Higher Duties

I would rather have my actor in charge than a step down manager, or some go-getter trying to impress. My actor fully supports the ALAEA, believes in 'Take 5' (particularly now), makes sure everyone has a new manual printout for each and every job (even if we do have to queue to use the computer), will not take short-cuts, and if feeling fatigued or tired insists we take a break. Yep, I can't think of a better person to be in-charge if the boss is unable to attend due to stress.

[sickofqf]

LAMEA380,

I can think of approximately 1700 lames who will be gutted if "newport Aviation" ( who don't exist as a registered company by the way) become the main subcontractor for QF.

$100k every six months will kill us. And it would be so much cheaper for QF of course.........
dude you are getting desperate with your lies and so much more far fetched..........MH is going to fall on his sword after telling DC and GD is was all sorted back in Jan.......trust me, there will be plenty of fall-guys after this debacle is over and when they are gone the "boot laces" will go with them or find themselves back on the floor with a very hostile workforce!!

You will NEVER get willing help or support from us at an aeroplane EVER again.

[blackbook]

Good faith by A.L.A.E.A
But Shafted By Management

Fridays good faith by alaea over shadowed by managements hard line tactics to get us offside.
An engineer which had previously applied for a z day this weekend for personal reasons has had it canceled by management due to the overtime bans. This policy by the company is known to every lame by now.

So an alternative was sought by the engineer to have a shift swap with another engineer on the opposite crew who was in the middle of his 4 day break. This would cost the company no money or be in conflict of alaea bans.

But management would not come to the party he was told there would be no good faith or solutions to this problem until the alaea lifted their bans.

This lame try to do the right thing but clearly the company play dirty and expect us to do the same.


take 5
Play Safe

[Ragnar Benson]

Security Guards with cameras out and about on the Bne Tarmac

Smile for the Camera

[REALITY]

Blackwood

The lack of goodwill can make one terribly ill.