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D Cox is banging on about the engineers again. When will the BUGGERY CAMPAIGN stop?
To the Fed Sec, to restore some of the work ethics at SYD base, simply bring the Bus Boys back to the crews and do some training on A330's.
How simple, problem solved, Oh cr@p, would have to amalgamate Boeing & Bus business.
Fine, keep your A380 sh!t but restore normality to the real world of Base Maintenance!!!!!
How many segmented groups do you want till it fails completely !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(or is it already tooooooo late)
To the Fed Sec, to restore some of the work ethics at SYD base, simply bring the Bus Boys back to the crews and do some training on A330's.
How simple, problem solved, Oh cr@p, would have to amalgamate Boeing & Bus business.
Fine, keep your A380 sh!t but restore normality to the real world of Base Maintenance!!!!!
How many segmented groups do you want till it fails completely !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(or is it already tooooooo late)
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More anti-competitor anti-customer behaviour exposed
Khoa Huynh catches Qantas out | Herald Sun
"Qantas is certainly not being weakened by international competition. In fact, the international air transport market has grown and Qantas has taken advantage of that growth," the study adds.
The paper, which draws on recognised data, reveals that Qantas now controls 71 per cent of the trans-Pacific market.
Its 350-seat 747 Boeings continue to fly 82 per cent full on the route.
The data mounts a strong case for the Federal Government to allow another carrier to operate the lucrative route.
The 22-year-old Mr Huynh's evidence contrasts markedly with Federal Transport Minister Anthony Albanese's recent decision not to open open the route to new competition.
In his study Mr Huynh found that Qantas commands double-digit fare premiums on the Pacific compared with what it earns on Kangaroo route services to London.
He also points out that Qantas reaps a higher yield from business class sales on the US route than Singapore Airlines can from selling a first class fare in the super luxury section of an A380 jumbo from Sydney to London.
The paper, which draws on recognised data, reveals that Qantas now controls 71 per cent of the trans-Pacific market.
Its 350-seat 747 Boeings continue to fly 82 per cent full on the route.
The data mounts a strong case for the Federal Government to allow another carrier to operate the lucrative route.
The 22-year-old Mr Huynh's evidence contrasts markedly with Federal Transport Minister Anthony Albanese's recent decision not to open open the route to new competition.
In his study Mr Huynh found that Qantas commands double-digit fare premiums on the Pacific compared with what it earns on Kangaroo route services to London.
He also points out that Qantas reaps a higher yield from business class sales on the US route than Singapore Airlines can from selling a first class fare in the super luxury section of an A380 jumbo from Sydney to London.
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Hasn't Big K Md been given the @rse yet. It would be a great day to see him go and then watch the infighting amongst his underlings as they lose their sweeteners and jollies.
I have said it before, E and M management needs to be gutted from Leading Hand and above. Then fill the places with the help of an outside HR firm to try and eliminate the jobs for the boys.
How is Robbo going anyway?
I have said it before, E and M management needs to be gutted from Leading Hand and above. Then fill the places with the help of an outside HR firm to try and eliminate the jobs for the boys.
How is Robbo going anyway?
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Manager's meeting in SYD recently. Anyone got any goss on what might have transpired?
Plans to continue buggery campaign
Continued plans to negate any customer aircraft contracts
Plans to continue buggery campaign
Continued plans to get more aircraft serviced by the the cheeeaapest ! MRO we can find as soon as the media find another story to follow. (considering Sarah Palin and her WW III statement may help our cause)
Plans to continue buggery campaign
Continued plans not to make any decisions on rosters, redundancy or a future model for HM engineering beyond next week.
Plans to continue buggery campaign
Continued plans provide inferior IT support for all engineering.
Keep pi$$ing our customers off, reduce revenues we go backwards on income statement, slip third party work to JH and co. Keep pi$$ing off employees, keep kicking heads. Ban all employee-engagement text books from ACS.
Plans to continue buggery campaign
Eventually show how engineering is just a losing cause. Segment the business and sell it. De-unionise the industry and wait for the thud!
Continue to offer all CASA senior officials free tickets, Capt's club membership and a free course on cartel trading in USA. (revised edition).
Did I say we voted to continue the buggery campaign?
Oh I almost forgot. We decided on an inaugural award called the Buggery Cup. It will be awarded to the MACS with the best buggery record in any one year. I hope I can win. I will be doing my best I know that.
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Offshore support failing?
Heard that the nasally well endowed one up in pineapple land has a nice impression of Mr Dixon's Julius Marlow on his behind for not providing enough LAME's in Hong Kong, Singapore and Manila for the A330 and 767 outsourced aircraft.
It appears some crews in his empire are running at a strength of one LAME to 10 non-LAME's comprised of several contractors, a few apprentices and an AME if they are lucky. Can't afford to send any more LAME's O/S.
Contractors coming, most with very little to no large jet aircraft experience. Get trained up, have the crews running around checking their work and fixing their stuff ups for several months then leave. The cycle begins again.
How this can be an efficient way to run a HM operation, I don't know.
Could it be that there are no AME's out there willing to work for the scraps of senior managements gourmet remunerations? Contractors are all they can they can attract?
It appears some crews in his empire are running at a strength of one LAME to 10 non-LAME's comprised of several contractors, a few apprentices and an AME if they are lucky. Can't afford to send any more LAME's O/S.
Contractors coming, most with very little to no large jet aircraft experience. Get trained up, have the crews running around checking their work and fixing their stuff ups for several months then leave. The cycle begins again.
How this can be an efficient way to run a HM operation, I don't know.
Could it be that there are no AME's out there willing to work for the scraps of senior managements gourmet remunerations? Contractors are all they can they can attract?
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Anyone got any goss on what might have transpired?
But in the grand scheme of things, I think their days left in management are coming to an end sooner than they may think, and these plans may not get enough time to materialise, before the whole joint collapses into a giant s*!t heap.
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Here we go again ...
Qantas says it is disappointed that long-haul pilots have voted against the airline's most recent pay proposal.
A majority of members of the Australian and International Pilots Association who took part in the vote on Friday were against the offer.
A spokeswoman for Qantas says the airline believed it had reached an in-priniciple agreement with pilots after 18 months of negotiations.
A majority of members of the Australian and International Pilots Association who took part in the vote on Friday were against the offer.
A spokeswoman for Qantas says the airline believed it had reached an in-priniciple agreement with pilots after 18 months of negotiations.
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There is a timetable on the intranet regarding the eba backpay etc.Cant remember the exact dates but 14th Oct rings a bell for application of the new grades and rates, so I guess the pay period following that.Super changes available in November.Pls chk the dates as I said I'm not sure of the above.
I believe the eba has been made effective in the last few days.
I believe the eba has been made effective in the last few days.
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Qantas accused of safety cover-up
Here's a story from yesterday's Sydney Morning Herald about a cover-up by senior QF management and editing reports by engineers.
This is just a snippet:
I would not expect an internal investigation to be unfavourable toward QANTAS management, and I wouldn't expect CASA to be any better.
One would have thought that if a crack "developed" underneath the paint, the paint/sealant above it would be cracked. If the paint is not cracked/damaged, then this would most likely indicate that it has been painted over or "covered up" as the article suggests. Typical of CASA to be not clear about this issue, as it may jeapordise QF's business. I guess passenger and the general public safety is nothing to worry about, and the pesky engineers should not be bothering management with problems ageing aircraft. This may cloud the arrival of the A380 and and dampen the toss session that will take place with all of the office staff oohhing and aahhing at the big aeroplane arriving at SYD later this morning.
Anyway, to anyone who's interested in the article, here's the link:
Qantas accused of safety cover-up - Travel - smh.com.au
This is just a snippet:
SENIOR management at Qantas have been accused of covering up a serious maintenance flaw on a Boeing 747-400 by pressuring an engineer to change his finding that a crack in the jet's frame had been painted over.
The original safety report, completed after a check on the aircraft at Qantas's heavy maintenance base at Melbourne's Avalon Airport in May, and obtained by the Herald, shows that an engineer found a crack that "appears to have been previously covered over with sealant and paint".
The original safety report, completed after a check on the aircraft at Qantas's heavy maintenance base at Melbourne's Avalon Airport in May, and obtained by the Herald, shows that an engineer found a crack that "appears to have been previously covered over with sealant and paint".
The airline investigated the matter and found the report had been altered but that this was "acceptable practice" because it found "no evidence" the crack had been painted over.
"The fact that the management requested the information to be changed in a Qantas Engineering report is an acceptable practice and the prerogative of management," the report says.
The airline's head of engineering and maintenance, David Cox, said in a statement yesterday there was "no issue". "We are more than confident in our processes and run an open and transparent operation. It is a shame that some people are not able to abide by the umpire's decision."
However, engineers from the Avalon base are adamant that the crack had been painted over.
"The part should have been quarantined until a proper investigation into the painting over took place, but that didn't happen. It basically sat in the manager's office," a Qantas engineer, who asked not to be named, told the Herald.
A spokesman for the Civil Aviation Safety Authority said it was not clear "whether the crack had developed underneath the paint or whether it was painted over".
"The fact that the management requested the information to be changed in a Qantas Engineering report is an acceptable practice and the prerogative of management," the report says.
The airline's head of engineering and maintenance, David Cox, said in a statement yesterday there was "no issue". "We are more than confident in our processes and run an open and transparent operation. It is a shame that some people are not able to abide by the umpire's decision."
However, engineers from the Avalon base are adamant that the crack had been painted over.
"The part should have been quarantined until a proper investigation into the painting over took place, but that didn't happen. It basically sat in the manager's office," a Qantas engineer, who asked not to be named, told the Herald.
A spokesman for the Civil Aviation Safety Authority said it was not clear "whether the crack had developed underneath the paint or whether it was painted over".
One would have thought that if a crack "developed" underneath the paint, the paint/sealant above it would be cracked. If the paint is not cracked/damaged, then this would most likely indicate that it has been painted over or "covered up" as the article suggests. Typical of CASA to be not clear about this issue, as it may jeapordise QF's business. I guess passenger and the general public safety is nothing to worry about, and the pesky engineers should not be bothering management with problems ageing aircraft. This may cloud the arrival of the A380 and and dampen the toss session that will take place with all of the office staff oohhing and aahhing at the big aeroplane arriving at SYD later this morning.
Anyway, to anyone who's interested in the article, here's the link:
Qantas accused of safety cover-up - Travel - smh.com.au
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Force Majeure -Customer contracts
You may recall this term used by management during the buggery campaign (BC) to forgo all customer contracts on the eastern seaboard.
It would appear these business guru's are in a legal bindi patch.
For those that haven't heard the term before Force Majeure is legal jargon.
This option worked find during BC however since EBA settlement MACS's around the country have hinted at their desire to only have profitable contracts. Thus the transfer of labour from Int ramps to base maintenance etc to attend outstanding OSIP and repairs. Contracts supported by overtime due to misaligned rosters or license coverage would go and only profitable contracts kept. Good in theory but legally, it has it's problems.
Technically Force Majeure is over. The dispute is no longer, no more overtime bans and no more hindrance. That is from the union side, as we all know the BC continues on like a Spanish Armada.
So why are we not working the contracts and getting back to earning 3rd party revenue? ACS have a backlog of maintenance we know and can see that. They need available manpower. If ACS chose which customers they operated the complement of contract owners who were told "we can't (don't want to) do your aircraft" would have a field day.."Breach of contract" $$$$
We all know the truth. Three blokes hanging off a spanner doesn't make the job faster. It's paperwork, time on the ground, inventories etc and DC and MH in their wisdom to curtail Int customer contracts is just another revenue burning decision to come out of head office.
We've seen them waste 150m-200m on BC to save 2-3m in wage expense. We've seen them send aircraft to cheap MRO's only to spend $$$$'s getting them back to Aust standards after their return to service.
If the past performance of these inept business minded numskulls is any guide we will be 'productive time lost' for several months. At least until all backlog maintenance is cleared or unwanted contracts have lapsed. Whether ACS wants commercial relationships with other operators who knows. It's a global market and we are a small international operator, a reasonable person may consider commercial relationships important considering the remoteness of our markets.
Funny attitude. We went from overtime bans during the BC, now with work to be done they have created a ACS overtime ban to save money. Until this whole management is swept out, engineering will continue to be a inefficient, low moral, immovable cost burden for the parent company. One day senior corporate management will realise that engineering did not have a history like we have seen in the last 3 years. They are embarrassing.
It would appear these business guru's are in a legal bindi patch.
For those that haven't heard the term before Force Majeure is legal jargon.
Force Majeure
8.1 The company is not liable for any failure in performance of any obligations under the contract caused by factors outside its control. In the event of such failure, the company may terminate the contract without liability to the customer.
8.1 The company is not liable for any failure in performance of any obligations under the contract caused by factors outside its control. In the event of such failure, the company may terminate the contract without liability to the customer.
Technically Force Majeure is over. The dispute is no longer, no more overtime bans and no more hindrance. That is from the union side, as we all know the BC continues on like a Spanish Armada.
So why are we not working the contracts and getting back to earning 3rd party revenue? ACS have a backlog of maintenance we know and can see that. They need available manpower. If ACS chose which customers they operated the complement of contract owners who were told "we can't (don't want to) do your aircraft" would have a field day.."Breach of contract" $$$$
We all know the truth. Three blokes hanging off a spanner doesn't make the job faster. It's paperwork, time on the ground, inventories etc and DC and MH in their wisdom to curtail Int customer contracts is just another revenue burning decision to come out of head office.
We've seen them waste 150m-200m on BC to save 2-3m in wage expense. We've seen them send aircraft to cheap MRO's only to spend $$$$'s getting them back to Aust standards after their return to service.
If the past performance of these inept business minded numskulls is any guide we will be 'productive time lost' for several months. At least until all backlog maintenance is cleared or unwanted contracts have lapsed. Whether ACS wants commercial relationships with other operators who knows. It's a global market and we are a small international operator, a reasonable person may consider commercial relationships important considering the remoteness of our markets.
Funny attitude. We went from overtime bans during the BC, now with work to be done they have created a ACS overtime ban to save money. Until this whole management is swept out, engineering will continue to be a inefficient, low moral, immovable cost burden for the parent company. One day senior corporate management will realise that engineering did not have a history like we have seen in the last 3 years. They are embarrassing.
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Hmm, a backlog of osip, that might be the case in main base.
Up in the sunny state the guys are busy polishing grease guns
while the other operators own lames, amsa, jhas and anyone
with a ute service our customer aircraft.
Up in the sunny state the guys are busy polishing grease guns
while the other operators own lames, amsa, jhas and anyone
with a ute service our customer aircraft.
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This may cloud the arrival of the A380 and and dampen the toss session that will take place with all of the office staff oohhing and aahhing at the big aeroplane arriving at SYD later this morning.
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Heard that on Sunday when the A380 arrived in Syd that no one in Base even looked up from their Cornflakes in the Smoko Room to see it land!
I think it will take a long time for the effects of the past few months to be resolved. It will have to start with a few heads rolling, from DC and MH to even maybe some other bad boy managers.
Money alone will not fix the mess that this management has created. It will take some fresh faces in the right places, and with the right attitude to getting the place back to where it should be.
Qantas Engineering (the name should never have been changed!) should be turned back into the efficient, well run organisation it once was. This I feel cannot happen when the workforce does not trust it's leaders.
I think it will take a long time for the effects of the past few months to be resolved. It will have to start with a few heads rolling, from DC and MH to even maybe some other bad boy managers.
Money alone will not fix the mess that this management has created. It will take some fresh faces in the right places, and with the right attitude to getting the place back to where it should be.
Qantas Engineering (the name should never have been changed!) should be turned back into the efficient, well run organisation it once was. This I feel cannot happen when the workforce does not trust it's leaders.