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Agree with Big M. (how can you call yourself that)
Big M, I don't like your choice of tag BUT we all need to have the same attitude. Follow the AMM and the Local Proceedures and we won't need any PIA. It's that simple brothers.
e-mail for rowers meeting!!
are all the members of the alaea going to be informed of what is actually happening or do we go on guessing like we have been since the last known meeting between alaea exec and gd/jb. think its time for someone to update us!!
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While it's good to have "feedback" meetings, I understand why EBA information/strategy has not been broadcast. My ALAEA rep has answered most questions when asked.
I would assume it is now time to take action. We have voted, we have seen the commish, we have been patient. Qantas does not want to play ball. Bring it on!!!!
N.B. I note Jetstar pilot's have knocked back there EBA offering. All is not well within the Qantas Group!
I would assume it is now time to take action. We have voted, we have seen the commish, we have been patient. Qantas does not want to play ball. Bring it on!!!!
N.B. I note Jetstar pilot's have knocked back there EBA offering. All is not well within the Qantas Group!
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I agree, send us all a notice of what is going on, or not, and continue on with
the PIA notification as we all voted on way back a few months ago if there
is nothing worthy of consideration.
the PIA notification as we all voted on way back a few months ago if there
is nothing worthy of consideration.
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since this is not a paid meeting ,i suggest that it will be a report back and see what avenue to take next style.remember 81% voted in favour of pia action.which included o/t bans,secondment bans and no higher duties.time has been afforded to both parties to meet, discuss and come to some sort of agreement.one can only hope this has happened.
if it has not,then the only option left to the lames is to envoke all three pia immediately and dig in,no more time wasting meetings 15 months is enough.
if it has not,then the only option left to the lames is to envoke all three pia immediately and dig in,no more time wasting meetings 15 months is enough.
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Back pay
They can't refuse back pay. One of the last clauses in EBA 7 says that the new agreement will commence on the first pay period after 31 Dec 2006. So any pay rise will be effective from then.
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No back-pay, you've stuffed that by dragging the negotiations on "too long".
No "sign-on bonus", that was a once-off for the pilots
No extra % for superannuation, that was a once-off offer for the ASU, but we may yet still offer it to the TWU.
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A rumor I heard was that a 3% wage rise for a level 13, as a dollar figure, would be passed on to all grades. Meaning that lower levels would get a comparatively greater than 3% increase in wages.
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One can only guess what was said at the managers phone
hookup, but the word is an inprinciple agreement has been
made, details TBA.
So speculation and leakage from qf put a smile on about
60% of the faces briefed, especially it seems for lower level
lames and those stuck in the grading level system with a
license they are not being paid for.
Backpay, super and travel grade fiddles topped it up.
oh, nearly forget the 3%, lol.
Some quick calculations gave an initial raise in salary of
between 4.5% to 14% depending on individual circumstances.
The official real offer will be disclosed monday, so they say.
hookup, but the word is an inprinciple agreement has been
made, details TBA.
So speculation and leakage from qf put a smile on about
60% of the faces briefed, especially it seems for lower level
lames and those stuck in the grading level system with a
license they are not being paid for.
Backpay, super and travel grade fiddles topped it up.
oh, nearly forget the 3%, lol.
Some quick calculations gave an initial raise in salary of
between 4.5% to 14% depending on individual circumstances.
The official real offer will be disclosed monday, so they say.
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Yeh, heard today 3% plus sweetners.
Which will mean 1% - 5% depending on current grade, regrade and super plus a priority upgrade on staff travel.
Though it sounds immediately enticing, some guys will get very little, some guys get much more but MOST will get something in between. But remember that this is a once of in a 3 year agreement, meaning the same increase does not apply at 1/1/09 .. it's only 3% from there onwards.
But the objective of the Executive was to get more than 3% for the majority of LAMEs and they have succeeded there, but Q has also won in having pleased a majority of LAMEs - but not all.
Will that be enough to get this agreement over the line?
Which will mean 1% - 5% depending on current grade, regrade and super plus a priority upgrade on staff travel.
Though it sounds immediately enticing, some guys will get very little, some guys get much more but MOST will get something in between. But remember that this is a once of in a 3 year agreement, meaning the same increase does not apply at 1/1/09 .. it's only 3% from there onwards.
But the objective of the Executive was to get more than 3% for the majority of LAMEs and they have succeeded there, but Q has also won in having pleased a majority of LAMEs - but not all.
Will that be enough to get this agreement over the line?
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Capitulation?
The cracks seem to be showing in the armour now.
Have you capitulated?
Do we need to get the cowboy boot wearing crusader to come and appease the troops and convince them that this is a good deal?
Guys you could have done better than this had you persisted.
OHHHHHHH well better luck next time.
Have you capitulated?
Do we need to get the cowboy boot wearing crusader to come and appease the troops and convince them that this is a good deal?
Guys you could have done better than this had you persisted.
OHHHHHHH well better luck next time.