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Sfojimbo 19th July 2023 11:07

The town of Stary Krym in Crimea has a problem. In fact, the entire town of 2,000 has been evacuated because the ammo dump next door has gone off. Highway P-23 has been shut down too.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66242446
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...or-2023-07-19/

BTW Stary Krym is only 15 miles from the Feodosia S-400 site, it doesn't look like those S-400s are doing their job very well.

NutLoose 19th July 2023 11:11

Ammo dump hit last night in Crimea and still burning.




petit plateau 19th July 2023 11:29

ZNPP update

"In its latest update on the situation at what is Ukraine and Europe's largest nuclear power plant, and which has been under Russian control since March 2022, the IAEA said that the steam generated from the one unit - currently unit 5 - in hot shutdown, is used "for various nuclear safety purposes including the processing of liquid radioactive waste collected in storage tanks".The State Nuclear Regulatory Inspectorate of Ukraine issued regulatory orders last month for all six units to be placed in cold shutdown, given its situation on the frontline of the war, and the breaching of the dam that had helped ensure plentiful cooling water supplies.The Russian operators of the plant say such a move is not required from a "legal or technological point of view" and the IAEA said the plant's operators are currently preparing to move unit 4 from cold shutdown to hot shutdown, after which unit 5 will be placed in cold shutdown "to carry out preventative maintenance activities that are only possible in cold shutdown".

The IAEA added that its experts stationed at the plant "are strongly encouraging the ZNPP to investigate all possible options to install an external boiler to generate the steam required, which would enable the site to bring all units into a cold shutdown state"."

etc

https://world-nuclear-news.org/Artic...-allow-cold-sh

NutLoose 19th July 2023 11:30

Ukrainian CV90's


NutLoose 19th July 2023 11:33

Russia light up the sky of Odesa with ermmmm standard fireworks?


Loved the comment...



Russians logic is that if Ukrainian have no firework left they cannot have a victory as they won't be able to celebrate it. Well anyway fireworks are replaced by drone shows nowadays, and Ukraine have plenty of those.

NutLoose 19th July 2023 12:05

Dell Boy getting his "holy" white wine blessed has nothing on this guy.


And


NutLoose 19th July 2023 12:11

I wouldn't fancy being in the trench at the other end.



Beamr 19th July 2023 12:56

Even though governments are providing Ukraine lots of heavy stuff, it's the personal equipment that is needed as well. Private contributors and donations are more than welcomed by the troops. Latest delivery to Finnish volunteers by Finnish donators included night vision gear.



arf23 19th July 2023 13:38


Originally Posted by fdr (Post 11470033)
somedays, the world seems to grow a conscience....

e.g. Turkish delight - Turkey continuing the grain trade

Lucky Luciachenko - luck running out on war crimes


https://t.co/13ZfqIfTeA

If any Russian ordanance hit a Turkish naval ship, would that drag NATO into the war directly?

ORAC 19th July 2023 14:22

More on that mass missile attack on the port grain loading facilities in Odesa last night.

60,000 tons of grain were destroyed at the “Chornomorsk” port as a result of russian shelling on the night of July 19, according to Ukraine's Minister of Agrarian Policy and Food, Mykola Solskyi.

These photos were taken in the ports of Odesa and Chornomorsk. At night, Russia purposefully attacked grain terminals. The grain infrastructure of international and Ukrainian traders and carriers Kernel, Viterra, CMA and CGM Group were damaged.…


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ORAC 19th July 2023 15:17

Stonking… story on how the Russian oil trade has relocated in Dubai, is pretending not to be Rosneft, and is doing just great

https://www.ft.com/content/7ac92047-...1-ddde5c916dd6

How Dubai became ‘the new Geneva’ for Russian oil trade

When Switzerland joined sanctions against Moscow, a chunk of the world’s oil trade relocated to the Middle East. Some predict it will stay there

Beamr 19th July 2023 15:17

"From July 20, all ships sailing in the Black Sea to Ukrainian ports will be considered as potential carriers of military cargo. Countries on the flags of such ships will be considered involved in the Ukrainian conflict on the side of the Kyiv regime," Russian Defense Ministry.




ORAC 19th July 2023 17:51

PRIGOZHIN IS ALIVE - AND HE’S ANGRY

⚡️⚡️⚡️The first post-rebellion video of Evgenii Prigozhin - the founder of Wagner Group - speaking with his soldiers in Belarus has appeared.

Key points:

📌 "What is happening now at the front is a disgrace in which we do not need to participate."

📌 “We are going to start a new journey - to Africa";

📌 “Maybe we will return to the war in Ukraine - at the moment when we are sure that we will not be forced to disgrace ourselves";

📌 "We will stay in Belarus for some time and, I am sure, we will make the Belarusian army the second army in the world."

Sfojimbo 19th July 2023 18:07


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11470291)
PRIGOZHIN IS ALIVE - AND HE’S ANGRY

⚡️⚡️⚡️The first post-rebellion video of Evgenii Prigozhin - the founder of Wagner Group - speaking with his soldiers in Belarus has appeared.

Key points:

📌 "What is happening now at the front is a disgrace in which we do not need to participate."

📌 “We are going to start a new journey - to Africa";

📌 “Maybe we will return to the war in Ukraine - at the moment when we are sure that we will not be forced to disgrace ourselves";

📌 "We will stay in Belarus for some time and, I am sure, we will make the Belarusian army the second army in the world."

He's sort of like Hitler without the Germany.

Beamr 19th July 2023 18:21

More regarding F16's

“There will be F-16 planes, this is already good news," Reznikov said.

"We will train pilots and technical engineers in several countries at the same time. Meanwhile here in Ukraine, we will do our homework, we will assess the capabilities of our airfields where they (F-16) will be used and we will build the infrastructure for them," he adds.



NutLoose 19th July 2023 18:29


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11470217)
"From July 20, all ships sailing in the Black Sea to Ukrainian ports will be considered as potential carriers of military cargo. Countries on the flags of such ships will be considered involved in the Ukrainian conflict on the side of the Kyiv regime," Russian Defense Ministry.

And of course Ukraine could say the same thing and lob a few Neptunes in the direction of anything sailing towards Russian ports, that should see the insurance companies disappearing over the horizon and ship owners ceasing to operate in and out of Russian ports.

Beamr 19th July 2023 18:40


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11470312)
And of course Ukraine could say the same thing and lob a few Neptunes in the direction of anything sailing towards Russian ports, that should see the insurance companies disappearing over the horizon and ship owners ceasing to operate in and out of Russian ports.

I wonder what would happen if ships to Ukraine would be flagged to Turkey, or the US. I reckon Russkies would do exactly nothing about it.

NutLoose 19th July 2023 19:49


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11470314)
I wonder what would happen if ships to Ukraine would be flagged to Turkey, or the US. I reckon Russkies would do exactly nothing about it.

The trouble is, a mine does not differentiate and you then have to prove whose mine it was post explosion out at sea.

Beamr 19th July 2023 19:57


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11470340)
The trouble is, a mine does not differentiate and you then have to prove whose mine it was post explosion out at sea.

If options are a country with a navy or a country without a navy, it wouldn't take very long to figure out.

NutLoose 19th July 2023 20:02

Russia designing quad riding synthetic soldier also known in the west as the remote controlled old age shopping trolley with a dressed manikin plonked on top.

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