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hugh flung_dung 18th July 2023 12:48


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11469520)
Well that's laying his cards on the table./

Nutloose,
You're generally doing a grand job but that link is from 9 months ago, and the recent "Russians are advancing" post was a laughable fake. I thank you for providing all the info that you do, but a little scrutiny might be appropriate before posting things that are clearly old or garbage.

HFD (returning to receive mode)

Video Mixdown 18th July 2023 12:57


Originally Posted by hugh flung_dung (Post 11469526)
Nutloose,
You're generally doing a grand job but that link is from 9 months ago, and the recent "Russians are advancing" post was a laughable fake. I thank you for providing all the info that you do, but a little scrutiny might be appropriate before posting things that are clearly old or garbage.
HFD (returning to receive mode)

I take a different view. I do not believe he should filter content, but present it on this forum for our interest. We can all judge for ourselves what is fake or otherwise. Given the repeated threats to use nuclear weapons by various Russian mouthpieces, I think a reminder of a possible US/NATO response is apposite.

DaveReidUK 18th July 2023 13:36


Originally Posted by Video Mixdown (Post 11469531)
We can all judge for ourselves what is fake or otherwise.

Clearly we can't all.

NutLoose 18th July 2023 13:52


Originally Posted by hugh flung_dung (Post 11469526)
Nutloose,
You're generally doing a grand job but that link is from 9 months ago, and the recent "Russians are advancing" post was a laughable fake. I thank you for providing all the info that you do, but a little scrutiny might be appropriate before posting things that are clearly old or garbage.

HFD (returning to receive mode)


Does it being 9 months old make it less relevant?

As for the Russians advancing in the Kupyan region, that contained two separate post from two separate individuals. But hey ho, there are lots of links referring to it.... read below


NutLoose 18th July 2023 13:59

Mastiff hit by two mines, all survived, looks repairable.



NutLoose 18th July 2023 14:10

F-16 training heads up



NutLoose 18th July 2023 14:17

Looks llike they are attempting to lift the twisted bridge span and the factory at the other end is open judging by the car park, that was the place that produced the last repairs IIRC


Spunky Monkey 18th July 2023 14:47


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11469563)
Looks llike they are attempting to lift the twisted bridge span and the factory at the other end is open judging by the car park, that was the place that produced the last repairs IIRC



https://twitter.com/Feher_Junior/sta...68666912976896

I am always amazed that people are so desperate for "Likes" and attention that they post up to the minute intelligence for the enemy to use.
The Ukrainians are pretty hot on stopping this, but not always successfully. The Russians however are just dumb.
Remembering the old WWII posters, "The Walls Have Ears," the Russians need to start their own campaign.
"Idiots have phones too."

Here's hoping the Ukrainians hit the bridge again soon and take out that crane at the same time. As a crane that powerful will likely be in short supply, with no civi human shields in the way.

antheads 18th July 2023 14:52

russian su-25 crashed in yeysk on the azov sea... the pilot ejected but ended up drowning.

now russians on telegram are bvtthurt that none of the people on shore seemed to care, they just kept on drinking beer and swimming even though there were a lot of jet skis around and an enterprising person could have reached the pilot and helped bring him to shore....

this is the result of conscious russian government policy for 20 years telling people to stay out of politics and don't look out for each other and if you do show initiative you'll be punished....

twitter.com/clashreport/status/1681256017286381569

as for the pilot, I won't say I'm happy he died but at least he won't be attacking any Ukrainian civilians now....

Andrewgr2 18th July 2023 14:58


Oligarchs could pay for the restoration of Kerch bridge - it would be an example of social justice, propagandists think.
I like “we have ways to incentivise these people”! As developed and practiced on the frontline with reluctant conscripts perhaps?

talby33 18th July 2023 15:55


Originally Posted by jolihokistix (Post 11469489)
Are you suggesting it was posed?

Not at all.

Beamr 18th July 2023 15:57


Originally Posted by Andrewgr2 (Post 11469578)
I like “we have ways to incentivise these people”! As developed and practiced on the frontline with reluctant conscripts perhaps?

Herr Flick with a new employer, perhaps?

talby33 18th July 2023 16:01


Originally Posted by Fortyodd2 (Post 11469485)
"Doesn't look like any of those present offered the girl any help or comfort".

That's not a priority - Sadly. Far more important to get it all on camera and onto Farcebroke/Twatter/Instercrumb to boost one's own profile :sad:

Yes, unfortunately.

ea200 18th July 2023 16:01


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11469563)
Looks llike they are attempting to lift the twisted bridge span and the factory at the other end is open judging by the car park, that was the place that produced the last repairs IIRC



https://twitter.com/Feher_Junior/sta...68666912976896

Not sure what you mean by the twisted span? Looks to me as if that crane is connected to the Northern (Westbound) carriageway. They may be trying to shift it back or just to support it to stop it going further.

FUMR 18th July 2023 16:25

With regard to the bridge, I am puzzled as to why Ukraine doesn't finish the job? Perhaps I'm naively missing something?

jolihokistix 18th July 2023 16:30

Putin: “If you destroy my bridge…”

The Ukes: “Well, we could, anytime. Mind if we just bend it a little to show you, then?”

soarbum 18th July 2023 16:33


Originally Posted by ea200 (Post 11469604)
Not sure what you mean by the twisted span? Looks to me as if that crane is connected to the Northern (Westbound) carriageway. They may be trying to shift it back or just to support it to stop it going further.

I'm no expert but that crane does not look hefty enough to me to lift a bridge span, especially angled that far from its base. I think it more likely that they are leaving the offset between sections of the far span as is for now and just dropping some plate steel across the gap so that vehicles can continue to drive over.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e18f2a1327.jpg

rixt 18th July 2023 16:36

Or a manbasket to do inspection.

Ninthace 18th July 2023 16:41

The naughty boy in me wants to put another bomb under a bit ot the bridge somwhere behind all that plant and leave it marooned.

Andrewgr2 18th July 2023 19:02


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11469626)
The naughty boy in me wants to put another bomb under a bit ot the bridge somwhere behind all that plant and leave it marooned.

I think your bomb might be better placed on the railway line!


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