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Beamr 11th Sep 2022 07:46

Awesome if true, a testimony of the Ukrainian capability to adapt.



NutLoose 11th Sep 2022 09:45

It says it all really.



NutLoose 11th Sep 2022 09:56

Blimey, all I can assume is they either had no fuel left or the crews were in the building that was struck.



rattman 11th Sep 2022 10:07


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11294683)
Blimey, all I can assume is they either had no fuel left or the crews were in the building that was struck.

Believe the road out of Izyum was virtually impossible to get vehicles down, only way out was on foot, there was ukrainian heavy guns only 20km from the road and while UA couldn't get to the road they could get close enough to prevent heavy vehicles.

peter we 11th Sep 2022 10:27


Originally Posted by rattman (Post 11294689)
Believe the road out of Izyum was virtually impossible to get vehicles down, only way out was on foot, there was ukrainian heavy guns only 20km from the road and while UA couldn't get to the road they could get close enough to prevent heavy vehicles.

Pretty much abandoned equipment for 10k men who were in Izyum.

rattman 11th Sep 2022 12:01

Rybar and the Grey Zone are reporting russian forces are withdrawing from all of the Kharkiv Oblast

ORAC 11th Sep 2022 12:03

Seems confirmed…


Low average 11th Sep 2022 12:24

I think there should be a healthy dose of caution attached when Russia "confirms" anything...

Hope they keep something back, and don't overstretch. What a spectacular effort - worthy of nationhood.

ORAC 11th Sep 2022 12:24

Big Russian ammunition depot was hit tonight near “Chumak” factory in Kakhovka region of Kherson oblast. Detonation still ongoing for ~ 5-6 hours already

ORAC 11th Sep 2022 12:59

Girkin comments on the rumoured concentration of forces at the Vuhledar direction (says Uglegorks but I think it's a typo?), says it makes sense and can lead to similar results as in Kharkiv Oblast.

albatross 11th Sep 2022 13:29

When I see the destruction of myriad ammunition depots I am reminded of the classic line from the “Final Battle” scenes of the movie “Water-world” .
Scene: Tanker exploding in flames
Little girl to the frantic pirate leader : “Is this part of your Big Plan?”
One wonders if some sycophant has thought of posing that question to Putrid when reviewing “progress” at the front. ( while, of course, keeping well away from any high windows.)
The atmosphere at The Headquarters must be a bit strained these daze, not unlike the last days in the Fuhrerbunker.

Stockportcounty 11th Sep 2022 13:31

Regroup going well !!


NutLoose 11th Sep 2022 14:20

Nice to see..


NutLoose 11th Sep 2022 14:20

Wow, mass exodus,why not hit the temp bridge so they would have to abandoned the transport.


NWSRG 11th Sep 2022 14:52


Originally Posted by uxb99 (Post 11294463)
Worrying my ass. Putin has failed and the Wolves will be closing in. I suspect already the Russian political system is working on how to eliminate Putin and extract themselves out of this mess.

So what do we get in place of Putin? It could be better or worse, and none of us knows which yet. My point was not about worrying about Putin, it is that we ought to worry about the uncertainty that comes with a new regime.

Tartiflette Fan 11th Sep 2022 15:13


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11294817)
Wow, mass exodus,why not hit the temp bridge so they would have to abandoned the transport.



https://twitter.com/u_me_reality/sta...29261502750721

Is it maybe in Russia ?

Tartiflette Fan 11th Sep 2022 15:16


Originally Posted by NWSRG (Post 11294831)
So what do we get in place of Putin? It could be better or worse, and none of us knows which yet. My point was not about worrying about Putin, it is that we ought to worry about the uncertainty that comes with a new regime.

What is the point in worrying about uncertainty when you have no way of settling it ?

NutLoose 11th Sep 2022 15:27

I wonder if this is true?


NWSRG 11th Sep 2022 15:30


Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan (Post 11294838)
What is the point in worrying about uncertainty when you have no way of settling it ?

I think it's called Scenario Planning. Probably better to assess the risks (and your possible responses) to a range of potential outcomes.

Wokkafans 11th Sep 2022 15:36

Usual caveats etc:


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