Good point, although i might have imagined that they would>

Combat forklifts…..

But when you are struggling to even supply basics such as fuel and food to your troops, niceties such as this are a long way down your list of prorities, even if it was in Russian service, which it is not.

manatou (manortwo) for australians or a telehandlers for overseas

I would put it the other way round. It is because they cannot provide such essential equipment in the first place, let alone maintain it and prevent it from being stolen, that their whole operation is such a s**t show. It is a microcosm of Russian society.

Interesting logistics train and interception mentioned here.

I infer from that brief post that someone figured out that it was going through Qatar, not to Qatar. ;)

Nothing new. Didn't we loose a Tornado in Afghanistan in similar circumstances?

Yup, a known issue with the IFF failing to warn the crew of it failing. Still pressed into service against urgent advice to the contrary, blue on blue as sure as night follows day. Result, two more avoidable deaths as well as the loss of a valuable aircraft to boot.

UXB99, Chug,
That was Kuwait 2003 but your sentiment is correct.
RIP Kev and Dave

There is a strange and deluded narrative emerging in the media, suggesting that, if Russia causes a European winter crisis by cutting off energy, the Ukraine will somehow be persuaded to seek terms.

The leverage is very thin: the principal countries providing help to Ukraine are either not likely to budge because of conviction, and/ or because of less vulnerability. The likes of Germany and Italy easing sanctions would certainly help Russia, but not to the extent of influencing the Ukraine. France, who wisely retained nuclear energy when most others flinched, might make soothing noises from the side-lines, but only to drown the sniggering at Germany's come-uppence. Merkel has a great deal to answer for.

Red on Red
 

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Tornado ZG710 23 March 2003

An historic office decision that it was not necessary to warn the crew that their IFF was not working. A known problem, identified and condoned, around five years earlier.

"Breaking the Military covenant - Who speaks for the Dead ?" by David Hill.

Chapter 20

More than two years earlier (Jan 2001) ....

"XD1 ruled that it was acceptable to:

• Deliver an aircraft with the IFF failure warnings not integrated.
• In the knowledge it was unsafe, falsely declare that it was safe.
• Permit a non-engineer to overrule the engineering design/safety decisions of the person holding airworthiness and technical delegation."

Killed by official default. Glossed over by the Board of Inquiry. No-one called to account. One of many similar ignorant or stupid office decisions that inevitably ended badly on real-world operations.

I doubt whether Russian military short-comings involve such a high level of sophistication.

IIRC - Ironically, about the same time, a returning F-16 was lit up by a Patriot radar. Pilot fired off an ARM which destroyed the Patriot radar. "That's the way to do it."

LFH

And I’ll guarantee nothing much changed between 2010 and 2022…

Russian Army 2010 era ammunition storage practices photo thread shot with a DC Elite stupidity, money & power politics on parade chaser….


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Macron substantially toughening France’s position…

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...ssia-x95thvcvz

President Macron pledges all-out French effort to help Ukraine defeat Russia

President Macron warned France today that the war in Ukraine will turn “very hard” by autumn and pledged an all-out French effort to stop Russia winning.

After reviewing a Bastille Day military parade led by contingents from the former Soviet-bloc Nato states, Macron accused Moscow of using its energy supplies as a weapon and said all Russian gas supplies to France would soon be stopped.

Macron, who has been accused by eastern Europeans of seeking to appease President Putin, used his first television interview since his re-election in April to strike a tough tone in support of Kyiv and the “unbelievable courage of the Ukrainians”.

“We have to prepare ourselves for the war to last for some time. The summer and the beginning of autumn are no doubt going to be very hard,” he said, referring to Russia’s grinding offensive in the eastern Donbas region.

France would not falter in supplying weapons and supporting international sanctions, he said. “We want to stop this war without getting involved in the war ourselves. We have to do everything possible so that Russia cannot win and for Ukraine to defend its territory. We don’t want a world war, so we don’t want it to be extended [beyond Ukraine],” he added……

Macron warned France to brace for difficult times on the energy front. “Russia has already started to cut off gas supplies” by closing the Nord Stream 1 pipeline that delivers gas to the EU, he said. “That’s a very clear message: It will use gas as a weapon of war,” he said. “We will need to do without Russian gas completely.”

Only dependent on Russia for about 20 per cent of its gas, France is in a stronger position than Germany and other countries that import energy, he noted, but France must “enter a collective logic of restraint”, and reduce its consumption…..

Russian mindset is that the Great Powers of Russia, Germany/UK and France decide everything between themselves. The little countries are puppets in their spheres of influence and therefore irrelevant. The very concept of these non countries having a say, is unimaginable.
Yet again reality has tripped up Russias invasion plans as it did in 1919-1921 when the attempt to invade Germany and France ran into Poland .
There is s dozen countries who will not back down

I have the greatest respect for the Germans, they are a wonderful people. It should be remembered, however, that the world, at great sacrifice and suffering, helped to free them from their own home-grown tyrant. I would hope that the Germans (and other European nations) are now ready to repay the favour by helping the moral world to free the Russians from theirs. This will require a great deal of sacrifice all round, but it is the right thing to do.

July 15 (Reuters) - A British aid worker who was detained by Russian-backed separatists in Ukraine and accused of being a mercenary has died, an official in the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) said on Friday.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ss-2022-07-15/

We simply cannot allow Putrid to bully us into submission. If we do, the future will be even bleaker, much bleaker! The western population need to be resilient no matter what the hardships are. Governments will need to work on convincing their people that appeasement failed and will do so again.

Ukrainian Defense Minister Reznikov hinted at the possible delivery of ATACMS to Ukraine in an interview for Financial Times. That's a 190 mile range and could possibly bring the likes of Sevestapol into range, it would also be able to be positioned outside artillery range while it hits targets such as fuel and ammo dumps.



and still they take out more Russian stockpiles. It looks like they are going after the stuff Russia needs to support the frontlines.

https://twitter.com/Flash43191300/status/1547519412940541953


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To the famous Belgian waffles we now add the infamous French waffle. :p (OK, only served up at Chez Macron).