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NutLoose 9th Sep 2022 11:06


Originally Posted by rattman (Post 11293635)
Link the confirmation I have seen no official statement one way or the other. Pretty sure Girkin said they reviewing the identity on the person in question

I posted a link ages ago to him, translation


A "lieutenant colonel" was taken prisoner, this is Lieutenant General Andrei Sychevoi, commander of the "WEST" grouping. Like, he changed into the uniform of a lieutenant colonel and wanted to quietly leave the city. Looks like..?

Seems the orc that was shown in the video on his knees is Lieutenant General Andrei Sychevoi (Андрей Сычевой) commander of the "West" group. He changed into lieutenant uniform and attempted to escape unrecognized (that's why he looks away from the camera)



TAKEN: Yesterday, videos featured a RU officer captured on the Kharkiv front. He was assumed to be a local commander-- he was, in fact, Lieutenant General Andrei Sychevoi, General in command RU’s “West” Group. Sychevoi is the most senior Russian officer captured since WW II.
https://twitter.com/search?q=Lieuten...rc=typed_query




https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7d8ce6ebde.png


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....dccdb10b9.jpeg

Rank in above image is Major general

Though balder in this, personal grooming not available in the field? has looted some Regain??
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c25459163c.png


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e2b0dee79d.jpg

Beamr 9th Sep 2022 11:11


Originally Posted by rattman (Post 11293635)
Link the confirmation I have seen no official statement one way or the other. Pretty sure Girkin said they reviewing the identity on the person in question

I can't be sure since information conflicts, but there was info that the Lieutenant General Andrei Sychevoi was already transferred to Western military district a month ago hence very unlikely to be in Balakliya.
I am more than happy to be corrected, once eg Ukrainian officials or Russian officials confirm this.

rattman 9th Sep 2022 11:22


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11293647)
Russia is even sending prototypes to war!

And guns from 1948, maybe they heard on the grapevine that the allies were sending lancaster and B-17's



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FlightDetent 9th Sep 2022 11:47


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11293650)
I am more than happy to be corrected, once eg Ukrainian officials or Russian officials confirm this.

To my observation of the Twitter feeds last night, Nutty's links are 3rd tier echo chamber. When the first pictures of the captured officer appeared nobody suggested it's a general at all. Especially that tweet 'now confirmed' only links from a disussion which explicitly said it is not the same person.

FlightDetent 9th Sep 2022 11:51

Recent updates on the Izyum opetation:



Here is the account itself, posting very fresh reflections of the involved Telegram channels.

https://mobile.twitter.com/warmonitor3

NutLoose 9th Sep 2022 11:52

By appointment to the late Her Majesty the Queen


Pali 9th Sep 2022 12:00


Originally Posted by Wokkafans (Post 11293329)

When watching this video English speaking folks will not recognise one important fact – liberated ladies speak pure Russian and soldiers speak Ukrainian. There goes Putin's fallacy that Russian army invaded Ukraine to protect Russian speaking inhabitants. Even Ukrainian citizens of Russian nationality know very well who is the enemy.

NutLoose 9th Sep 2022 12:01

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8a05d6ec86.png

ORAC 9th Sep 2022 12:02

Looks like it’s now a riot, limited by the speed at which UKR forces can advance….

“Kupyansk” - Good lord, what’s going on.


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ORAC 9th Sep 2022 12:06

Getting heated.

Russian channel: "No Ukrainian groups entered Kupyansk".

A channel with 450k responds: "Stop lying you f*cking c*nts. What is happening is all due to dump lying. In reports, motherf*cking slides and other sh*t, r*tards".


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FlightDetent 9th Sep 2022 12:08

This was a priceless find.

Reporting clearly and to the point, 5 minute summaries. Always released 1 day later and aiming to paint a realistic view.

https://youtube.com/c/ReportingfromUkraine

Well worth reviewing a few days back (5 at least).
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ORAC 9th Sep 2022 12:10

Aviation content

So far, we have only seen AGM-88 HARM in use with Ukrainian MiG-29 jets.

However, evidence has now emerged showing the powerful Su-27S (Notably in an older colour scheme) apparently carrying two HARM missiles; another boost to UkAF SEAD capability.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7c4224e5e.jpeg


FlightDetent 9th Sep 2022 12:20


ORAC 9th Sep 2022 13:57

Morale…..

A Russian Telegram channel claims that the commander of the 2nd Motorized Rifle Division evacuated from Izyum two days ago even though some of his forces are still in the area.

uxb99 9th Sep 2022 14:56

This is both exciting and amusing. Hope it's true.

ORAC 9th Sep 2022 16:28

Russian war correspondent Evegeny Poddubny says that Ukraine has damaged the bridge in Kupyansk, potentially limiting the ability of Russian reinforcements to arrive in the city or for its forces to retreat.


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NutLoose 9th Sep 2022 16:33

I rather like this, I wonder how he feels now.


NutLoose 9th Sep 2022 16:41

:(


NutLoose 9th Sep 2022 16:45

So satifying to watch, it reminds me of the start of Dads Army, just a shame it is people dying.


Recc 9th Sep 2022 17:50


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11293802)
I rather like this, I wonder how he feels now.


Let's not be too harsh on those early predictions. Indeed, the OP of this thread made the suggestion that Ukraine was preparing an all out offensive on Russian held areas of Eastern Ukraine. Turns out he was correct, just a little premature!


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