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golfbananajam 3rd Mar 2022 11:06


Originally Posted by dead_pan (Post 11193870)
the EW environment does seem to be rather benign, possibly another consequence of their comms limitations?

What makes you say this? Do you expect that EW capabilities and associated results to be made public? Personally, from past experience, I can imagine the EW environment to be very busy.

dead_pan 3rd Mar 2022 11:17


Originally Posted by golfbananajam (Post 11193900)
What makes you say this? Do you expect that EW capabilities and associated results to be made public? Personally, from past experience, I can imagine the EW environment to be very busy.

I was referring to Russian EW activities. I would have expected there to have been an EM blizzard there by now - no TV or phone signals etc.

admikar 3rd Mar 2022 11:42

Regarding Russians treating prisoners fairly, I guess both sides are lying through their teeth.
I am guessing for every prisoner that is shown being fine, there are at least ten being beaten up.
One thing that does make me wonder, if everything is going that fine for UKR forces, why the release of military experienced prisoners few days ago?
Heard today that Moscow admited 500 KIA abd 1500 WIA. I'm sure it's a lot more than that. Do we know what are Ukrainian military losses? Both personel and material?

Beamr 3rd Mar 2022 11:53

This sounds interesting, coming from a Belarusian media. No confirmation however from other sources so far. If you dont count Linda Thomas-Greenfield making a statement in the UN yesterday of Putin threatening Finland and Sweden with an invasion.


NutLoose 3rd Mar 2022 11:55

Lexif has posted this on jetblast, it is the AN225 on fire in its shed :*


NutLoose 3rd Mar 2022 12:09


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11193931)
This sounds interesting, coming from a Belarusian media. No confirmation however from other sources so far. If you dont count Linda Thomas-Greenfield making a statement in the UN yesterday of Putin threatening Finland and Sweden with an invasion.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499227333688975365


Don't forget Finland discovered a secret Russian base on one of their islands a couple of years back with barracks, 9 piers, a helipad, and CCTC covering the whole island owned by a Russian.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8612161.html

Beamr 3rd Mar 2022 12:15


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11193939)
Don't forget Finland discovered a secret Russian base on one of their islands a couple of years back with barracks, 9 piers, a helipad, and CCTC covering the whole island owned by a Russian.

When the russian owner was asked why he built all those dock there he said he likes to swim around the island :D

fab777 3rd Mar 2022 12:16


Do we know what are Ukrainian military losses? Both personel and material?
Probably huge. But they die defending their country, which is different from dying invading another.

[email protected] 3rd Mar 2022 12:44

It's still young men dying in wars started by old men.............

Flyhighfirst 3rd Mar 2022 12:45


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11193931)
This sounds interesting, coming from a Belarusian media. No confirmation however from other sources so far. If you dont count Linda Thomas-Greenfield making a statement in the UN yesterday of Putin threatening Finland and Sweden with an invasion.

Cant see it really happening. Finland and Sweden are both part of the EU. The EU has a binding mutual defence clause in the charter.

Doing so would have him start a conflict with the entire EU, and given what we have seen so far even without the US he wouldn’t stand a chance against the combined militaries of the EU.

Brewster Buffalo 3rd Mar 2022 12:53

..France “strongly” urged its citizens on Thursday to leave Russia if their presence there was “not essential”, following Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine and the closure of airspace between Russia and the European Union.
....
From France24.com...perhaps HMG should give the same advice?

Flyhighfirst 3rd Mar 2022 12:53


Originally Posted by dead_pan (Post 11193833)
The US is to set up a 'Kleptocapture' task force in Monaco to go after the assets of oligarch's linked to Putin's regime. Looks like a fun job.

On which note, I bet Abramovich is sweating about liquidating his assets in London and elsewhere in Europe, him now being a 'person of interest'.

That's why he is selling Chelsea. It’s hard to move a football club offshore. Quick
sell of his assets here and sent offshore to be hidden QuickTime.

Tartiflette Fan 3rd Mar 2022 12:56


Originally Posted by tartare (Post 11193679)
Yep - it's a 40-60 percent hit to Germany's energy supply and others, and short/medium term will create huge economic problems.
?

A few days ago I read in focus.de that gas reserves are good until springtime with no mention of any restrictions.

Tartiflette Fan 3rd Mar 2022 13:05

RETURN TO SENDER

Germany sending 2 700 Strela missiles from DDR stocks to Ukraine.

This is very strange. I didn't think Germany had the same mentality as Russia about holding on to old weaponry and would also have thought they would be time-limited in some way, as i can't believe that the BRD would have ordered any updates from Russia;

https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland..._59208600.html

fab777 3rd Mar 2022 13:10

"Putin tells Macron Russian military operation 'will be completed'

In their phone call Thursday, President Putin told French counterpart Emmanuel Macron that the tasks of Russia's special military operation in Ukraine would be fulfilled in any case, and urged him to join efforts to ensure the safe evacuation of foreign citizens from Ukraine.

Putin explained that it was about demilitarization and the neutral status of Ukraine, so that a threat to Russia would never come from its territory, and that attempts to gain time by delaying negotiations would only lead to the emergence of new demands on Kiev."

It looks like no one told Vlad that the invasion is not going on schedule, and that the cost of fulfilling those tasks is rapidly rising.

A French ex-military analyst told "Le Monde" today, that, according to him, the Russian army has engaged 2/3rd of its actual combat capacity in Ukraine, and in the long term, there is no way it can escape a costly and persistent guerilla war. All those lost capacities will have to be rebuild, and Russia is not exactly getting richer...

Sue Vêtements 3rd Mar 2022 13:14


Originally Posted by Flyhighfirst (Post 11193961)
That's why he is selling Chelsea

It would be funny if someone bought it and changed the kit from all blue, to blue shirts with yellow shorts and socks

henra 3rd Mar 2022 13:35


Originally Posted by fab777 (Post 11193974)
A French ex-military analyst told "Le Monde" today, that, according to him, the Russian army has engaged 2/3rd of its actual combat capacity in Ukraine, and in the long term, there is no way it can escape a costly and persistent guerilla war. All those lost capacities will have to be rebuild, and Russia is not exactly getting richer...

That's what really puzzles me. What is the plan after a possible initial military win? Those people now fighting for their Country won't suddenly disappear or become happy Janukovich Supporters. They are right now impressively dealing with one of the biggest Ground- Forces Army of the world. How should an unwelcome socket puppet government survive once the majority of the current Russian forces have left the Country again?
Therefore Putin will have to leave 50.000++ Troops permanently in Country. And those will keep getting decimated by Ambushes, IED, and all those weaponry (Stingers, Javelins, NLAW, etc) happily floating around. Every now end then an IL-76 will take a fatal plunge on approach or takeoff when replacing troops. Ground troop transports will be ambushed and eliminated across the Country. Ukraine is a huuuge Country (2,5x UK, 4.5x England). 50.000 troops will mean a veeeery thin occupation. Reenforcement will be hours away.
I really have difficulties to understand what Putin's plan for day X + 100 is!?


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