Russkies are building up forces near the finnish border.
Although not quite sure why they are moving those coastal missile systems there. Geolocated 50km from Finnish border. https://www.google.com/maps/@60.7448...7i13312!8i6656 |
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The Russians do not want to tangle with the Finns again especially when they are getting their Butts kicked in Ukraine!
The Russians might stick to dealing with this Hornet’s Nest they stuck their head into first. |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11213846)
The problem I can forsee is ammunition as the NATO standard round is a different calibre to the ammunition the Ukrainians are using in their ex Soviet tanks, that said all of NATO should be able to supply ammunition for them.
There are various version of the Leo 1, does it say which version we are talking about the -4 an -5 are the newer models
Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
(Post 11213882)
15 Eurofighters with no night-fighting capability ( unsure if technical or training ) thinking about buying Tranche 1 Eurofighters from GB for spares/other material, or in the medium-term buying another plane;
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Originally Posted by Wokkafans
(Post 11213943)
Dvornikov enters from stage left with the same script. B@stards 😡 |
Interesting thread IF the numbers are correct.
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If they have indeed used chemical weapons, I thought that was the red flag for the west to intervene?
Re build up near Finland, wasn’t there something about possible Western guarantee’s prior to NATO enrolment? Though he is struggling in Ukraine so a second front would dilute his force’s? Still the threat is at least tying up Russian forces. |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11213970)
IRe build up near Finland, wasn’t there something about possible Western guarantee’s prior to NATO enrolment?
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
(Post 11213990)
I posed that question a few days ago but no response.
Here it is https://abcnews.go.com/International...-join-83912486 The military organization might also be ready to provide security guarantees to the countries if any potential membership bid angers Russia, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said. |
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...manys-approval
"he believed that Ukrainian personnel with certain unspecified existing skill sets could be trained to operate a Leopard 1 in a timeframe measured in days. "You have to be trained a bit more intensively on the Leopard 1. But if the Ukrainians want the tank, a way should be found," |
If Russia has in fact used Chemical weapons against Ukraine Civilians......what should the World's reaction to that be Crime Against Humanity?
Can we just turn a blind eye to it.....just wag some tongues but take no action? If that is what happens....then what will Putin and his Thugs think they can get away with? |
If they used/use Chemical weapons, i say send in the Tomahawks. Like in Syria, plus the french with SCALP
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Originally Posted by MJ89
(Post 11214010)
If they used/use Chemical weapons, i say send in the Tomahawks. Like in Syria, plus the french with SCALP
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11213970)
Re build up near Finland, wasn’t there something about possible Western guarantee’s prior to NATO enrolment? Though he is struggling in Ukraine so a second front would dilute his force’s? Still the threat is at least tying up Russian forces.
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Originally Posted by SASless
(Post 11214009)
If Russia has in fact used Chemical weapons against Ukraine Civilians......what should the World's reaction to that be Crime Against Humanity?
Can we just turn a blind eye to it.....just wag some tongues but take no action? If that is what happens....then what will Putin and his Thugs think they can get away with? Putin can do whatever he wants - NATO is far too afraid of him to lift a finger, and he knows that. If he has used chemical weapons to slaughter children, nothing will change. NATO and the West will be judged as the people who simply watched. |
All the organisations set up to prevent exactly this happing again - a re-run of Hitler's aggression and expansion - are going to stand by with plenty of platitudes and no action.
Agree with the idea of stand-off weapons to destroy the Russian armour wherever it is in Ukraine. |
With all the revelations about how easy it has been for money to travel from Russia to be washed in the rest of the world, one has to wonder how many senior people in every country have somehow been tainted by association or even directly bribed - it might explain some of the reluctance to act directly if Putin has the threat of exposing financial irregularities over their heads.
After all, the majority of politicians are in the game for wealth, power and influence - see our present lot for a prime example. |
Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
(Post 11213912)
France - mid March E 300 million gift plus unspecified tonnage of fuel, 60 tonnes humanitarian aid to Moldova and Poland
NL - E 20 million, sniper-rifles, helmets, Manpads Be - 3 800 tonnes fuel, 2 000 smg, 3 000 assault rifles Italy - E 110 million gift plus unspecified military equipment Ireland E 20 million ( noticed while searching that Ireland spends about 0.28% on defence.)+ There may be other donations, but too difficult to search everything |
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