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Old 4th Aug 2023, 13:58
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IIRC the port uses old floating docks for ship repair - they weren't in very good shape when I was there and I doubt there's been a major upgrade.

Not a place you'd want to take a damaged warship unless there is no alternative.

It's much more a commercial port and the main warm water port for shipping oil and importing goods (especially from Turkey). Any onshore damage would seriously hurt Russian efforts
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Tensions between Poland and Belarus continue to escalate.

Polish combat helicopters now patrol the Belarus border, armed and authorized to fire without hesitation. This response follows airspace violations by Belarusian military helicopters who flew low and undetected …

Poland's Defense Minister said the armed helicopters are on standby readiness at 2 bases near the border. Pilots have combat experience and will fire without hesitation if provoked, he warned.

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Russians in Latvia will receive a letter in September demanding they leave the country

According to Ingmārs Līdaka, head of the Saeima Commission on Citizenship, Migration and Social Cohesion, about 6,000 Russian citizens will receive letters.
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I hadn’t realised they’d damaged and/or sunk so many…

​​​​​​​Chronology of the Russian Black Sea Fleet Destruction

Almost two dozen Russian ships and boats followed the well-known direction.

🔥 On 21 March 2022, the large landing ship Caesar Kunikov was hit by tactical operational missile complex "Tochka". The captain of the ship went to Kobzon;

🔥 On 21 March 2022, the Project Raptor-class patrol boat was disabled by a shot fired by an anti-tank missile complex of the Azov Regiment;

🔥 On 24 March 2022, the large landing ship Saratov was sunk by a Tochka U missile;

🔥 On 24 March 2022, the large landing ship Novocherkassk was damaged by a Tochka U missile. At least three crew members were liquidated;

🔥 On 4 April 2022, the frigate Admiral Essen was disabled for 10 days by a Harpoon anti-ship missile;

🔥 On 14 April 2022, the Black Sea Fleet flagship missile cruiser Moskva was sunk by 2 Neptune ballistic missiles. Out of 510 crew members 58 survived. The cruiser received the status of the Underwater Cultural Heritage Object of Ukraine №2064;

🔥 On 2-8 May 2022, five Project Raptor patrol boats were disabled by Bayraktar TB2 drone munitions;

🔥 On 7 May 2022, a Project Serna landing boat was sunk by Bayraktar TB2 drone munitions;

🔥 On 12 May 2022, the Vsevolod Bobrov was damaged by a Neptun ballistic missile;

🔥 On 17 June 2022, the Russian tug Spasatel Vasily Bekh was hit by two Harpoon anti-ship missiles;

🔥 On 29 October 2022, the frigate Admiral Makarov was damaged by aerial and surface drones;

🔥 On 29 October 2022, the frigate Admiral Grigorovich was damaged by aerial and surface drones;

🔥 On 29 October 2022, the naval minesweeper Ivan Golubets was disabled by aerial and surface drones;

🔥 On 24 May 2023, the reconnaissance ship was "Ivan Khurs" was damaged by three surface drones;

🔥 On 4 August 2023, Russian landing ship Olenegorsky Gornyak was damaged by surface drones.

To be continued...
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 17:28
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I doubt this one will sail on its own power ever again as Russkies aren't really renown of their ability to repair anything. Certain aircraft carrier comes to mind.
IIRC, the floating dry dock used for the Kusnetsov stopped floating for reasons that we shall never know.......cough, cough, cough.

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They have docked it with a tug alongside to keep it from capsizing.

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IAEA reports no mines on the roof of the two NPP reactors having gained access.

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Ukrainian troops through the first line of defence, if the West hadn’t dithered on tanks etc they would not be having these problems.

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More on the listing LST ship.



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Originally Posted by meleagertoo
Sulphur Trioxide is NOT 'sulphur', is it?
FWIW, SO3 disolves in water (H2O) to form Sulphonic Acid (H2SO3) which, whilst not as acidic as Sulphuric Acid (H2SO4), is quite corrosive - and thus rather dangerous in its own right (See, I think I still remember a bit of my school chemistry! )
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Another delivery from the U.K.


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Sulphonic acid was/is used to bleach and preserve soft fruit used for jam making…..
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Views showing the effectiveness of the Russian anti dazzle paint schemes.

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If confirmed this may make the entire Black Sea a no go zone…

Russian channels report three naval drones attacked the Crimea bridge (official reports claim drones were destroyed), but another drone reported hitting an oil tanker approx 30 miles from the bridge...which may have been the real target?

More information on the above…

For the past hour or so, alarming information is coming about another incident in the Black Sea, with the most recent reports mentioning another Russian vessel being hit, although reportedly it's a transport ship.

By the looks of it, the information about an attack involving several drones against an oil tanker, or other targets, is true. Traffic on the Russian bridge was stopped. This all is the result of pulling out of the grain deal.

Indeed, the Sig oil tanker that Russian channels report was hit, was in the right place near the bridge and appears to have shuttled oil between Crimea and Syria, worked for Russian armed forces and was thus a legitimate military target.

​​​​​​​The Vessel “Sig” a Russian-Flagged Chemical/Oil Products Tanker has reportedly been Struck by a Naval-Surface Drone while it was attempting to Transit the Kerch Strait on approach the Port of Kavkaz in Southwestern Russia; the Strike has reportedly resulting in No Casualties but Severe Flooding to the Engine Room of the Vessel with Emergency and nearby Ships moving to Assist.

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Views showing the effectiveness of the Russian anti dazzle paint schemes.



https://twitter.com/CovertShores/sta...68449660727296
Impressive in the visual spectrum but otherwise down to discipline, funnel heat and hot machinery etc.
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Possibly another attack on the Kerch bridge.

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All kicking off tonight…

​​​​​​​At least three explosions have already been reported near the Crimean bridge!

Also, traffic jams in the area of ​​the bridge have already been noticed on maps.
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Catchy song..


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All kicking off tonight…



At least three explosions have already been reported near the Crimean bridge!

Also, traffic jams in the area of ​​the bridge have already been noticed on maps.

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So you decide to skip that holiday in Crimea because of the war and spend it in Russia on the beach resting peacefully, and watching some of your mighty Black Sea fleet limping home…. totally and utterly demoralising….. this has got to put the fear of God into Russian naval forces that sail out from either port to launch missile strikes.
I cannot see any other way for this attack to have taken place unless the USV’s were loitering in the area as I would imagine the range to be too great to launch and Intercept from Ukraine in the timeframe available.

These have got to be a major game changer in future warfare, for a few thousand dollars each you can build them in the thousands and a swarm of several hundred against the likes of a carrier fleet will be pretty much unstoppable, the Kamikaze has come of age.



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