Ukraine War Thread Part 2
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It looks like contrary to Russian announcements the suicide drones in the Black Sea may have struck a Russian ship. That may account for the ferry sailings being terminated. This is that report.
The ever volatile Mr Musk limits use of Starlink to stop attacks on Crimea and Black
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...attack-crimea/
"Elon Musk forced Ukraine to drop a planned naval drone strike in the Black Sea by refusing access to the Starlink satellite network, according to a US report.
The Ukrainian military was not able to remotely pilot a drone laden with explosives into a Russian ship in occupied Crimea following the decision of the SpaceX chief executive.
Mr Musk, the 52-year-old South African-born billionaire, has previously said he does not want Starlink used to conduct long-range offensive strikes.
But General Valeriy Zaluzhnyi, the leader of Ukraine’s armed forces, was concerned enough about the refusal to raise Musk’s power with his American counterpart, General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, according to the New York Times.
Kyiv’s top general told him his forces had had their access to Starlink restricted on a number of occasions, the paper reported.
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"Elon Musk forced Ukraine to drop a planned naval drone strike in the Black Sea by refusing access to the Starlink satellite network, according to a US report.
The Ukrainian military was not able to remotely pilot a drone laden with explosives into a Russian ship in occupied Crimea following the decision of the SpaceX chief executive.
Mr Musk, the 52-year-old South African-born billionaire, has previously said he does not want Starlink used to conduct long-range offensive strikes.
But General Valeriy Zaluzhnyi, the leader of Ukraine’s armed forces, was concerned enough about the refusal to raise Musk’s power with his American counterpart, General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, according to the New York Times.
Kyiv’s top general told him his forces had had their access to Starlink restricted on a number of occasions, the paper reported.
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Quite a bit on the interweb indicating that is actually a clip of a building in China.
Although the damage to the Moscow buildings that were hit didn’t look bad, it is, the whole glass facade has detached from the buildings structure in places and is swinging in the breeze.
Is it just me or is that a shoddy poor attachment fitting, the words skimped and bodged come to mind.
https://twitter.com/drigli_/status/1685638177141207040
Is it just me or is that a shoddy poor attachment fitting, the words skimped and bodged come to mind.
https://twitter.com/drigli_/status/1685638177141207040
the US military bought hundreds of non geo fenced ones for Ukraine. Its only the civilian ones that are geo fenced it might be a state or defence requirement that hes enforcing
Passenger ferries from Sevastopol have been cancelled.
https://twitter.com/pravda_eng/statu...30937376919552
hits in Sevastopol
https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1686403141611237376
https://twitter.com/pravda_eng/statu...30937376919552
hits in Sevastopol
https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1686403141611237376
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Now this is a really long read with video clips from the likes of Bucha, it is about Russia's oligarchs and their involvement in Putin's war and the blood on their hands, no matter how much they bleat on about their innocence. It is a long read but very informative about who, what and where they are involved, and also some of their ploys involved to try and avoid sanctions.
Just a short snippet of the start of the text:
I have run it through Google translator for you all.
https://www-proekt-media.translate.g..._x_tr_pto=wapp
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Just a short snippet of the start of the text:
On the afternoon of February 24, 2022, with Russian missiles already attacking targets deep in Ukraine, Roman Abramovich , No. 12 on the pre-war Russian Forbes list , was flying his business jet to Moscow. Abramovich, according to an acquaintance, was trying to make it to a meeting scheduled in the Kremlin between Vladimir Putin and members of the Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs (RSPP), the de facto club of the country's richest businessmen. But still didn't make it. Arriving, he called Putin and asked for a personal meeting, where he offered his mediation services in organizing peace talks with Ukraine.
As a result, the negotiations organized by Abramovich did not lead to anything, and the businessman himself soon found himself under sanctions in the European Union, Great Britain, Canada, Switzerland, Australia, New Zealand and Ukraine, and lost a large part of his fortune and assets. The version that Abramovich was late to the Kremlin is perhaps just a cover. The businessmen invited to the Kremlin were notified of the meeting two weeks in advance, the exact date and time were announced on February 22 , and on the day of the event, those gathered waited for Putin’s arrival for several more hours.The version that Abramovich was late to the Kremlin is perhaps just a cover. The businessmen invited to the Kremlin were notified of the meeting two weeks in advance, the exact date and time were announced on February 22 , and on the day of the event, those gathered waited for Putin’s arrival for several more hours.
- in a word, Abramovich probably had time to fly to Moscow by the beginning of the event. But the oligarch, experienced in Kremlin intrigues, could not help but understand that anyone who publicly appears next to Putin on the day the war against Ukraine began will almost inevitably and quickly end up on Western sanctions lists. And so it happened: within a short time after the meeting, certain sanctions were imposed against all 37 people who represented the RSPP at the meeting in the Kremlin. Including such guests as Tigran Khudaverdyan and Alexander Shulgin, who were never considered oligarchs, and came to the meeting as directors of their companies - Yandex and Ozone,
- in a word, Abramovich probably had time to fly to Moscow by the beginning of the event. But the oligarch, experienced in Kremlin intrigues, could not help but understand that anyone who publicly appears next to Putin on the day the war against Ukraine began will almost inevitably and quickly end up on Western sanctions lists. And so it happened: within a short time after the meeting, certain sanctions were imposed against all 37 people who represented the RSPP at the meeting in the Kremlin. Including such guests as Tigran Khudaverdyan and Alexander Shulgin, who were never considered oligarchs, and came to the meeting as directors of their companies - Yandex and Ozone, respectively .
As a result, the negotiations organized by Abramovich did not lead to anything, and the businessman himself soon found himself under sanctions in the European Union, Great Britain, Canada, Switzerland, Australia, New Zealand and Ukraine, and lost a large part of his fortune and assets. The version that Abramovich was late to the Kremlin is perhaps just a cover. The businessmen invited to the Kremlin were notified of the meeting two weeks in advance, the exact date and time were announced on February 22 , and on the day of the event, those gathered waited for Putin’s arrival for several more hours.The version that Abramovich was late to the Kremlin is perhaps just a cover. The businessmen invited to the Kremlin were notified of the meeting two weeks in advance, the exact date and time were announced on February 22 , and on the day of the event, those gathered waited for Putin’s arrival for several more hours.
- in a word, Abramovich probably had time to fly to Moscow by the beginning of the event. But the oligarch, experienced in Kremlin intrigues, could not help but understand that anyone who publicly appears next to Putin on the day the war against Ukraine began will almost inevitably and quickly end up on Western sanctions lists. And so it happened: within a short time after the meeting, certain sanctions were imposed against all 37 people who represented the RSPP at the meeting in the Kremlin. Including such guests as Tigran Khudaverdyan and Alexander Shulgin, who were never considered oligarchs, and came to the meeting as directors of their companies - Yandex and Ozone,
- in a word, Abramovich probably had time to fly to Moscow by the beginning of the event. But the oligarch, experienced in Kremlin intrigues, could not help but understand that anyone who publicly appears next to Putin on the day the war against Ukraine began will almost inevitably and quickly end up on Western sanctions lists. And so it happened: within a short time after the meeting, certain sanctions were imposed against all 37 people who represented the RSPP at the meeting in the Kremlin. Including such guests as Tigran Khudaverdyan and Alexander Shulgin, who were never considered oligarchs, and came to the meeting as directors of their companies - Yandex and Ozone, respectively .
I have run it through Google translator for you all.
https://www-proekt-media.translate.g..._x_tr_pto=wapp
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Now this is a really long read with video clips from the likes of Bucha, it is about Russia's oligarchs and their involvement in Putin's war and the blood on their hands, no matter how much they bleat on about their innocence. It is a long read but very informative about who, what and where they are involved, and also some of their ploys involved to try and avoid sanctions.
Just a short snippet of the start of the text
I have run it through Google translator for you all.
https://www-proekt-media.translate.g..._x_tr_pto=wapp
..
Just a short snippet of the start of the text
I have run it through Google translator for you all.
https://www-proekt-media.translate.g..._x_tr_pto=wapp
..
Off the wall idea of wondering if the AFU could brew a Artisan Vodka labeled "Drink and Leave or Die" and use to drones to saturate the area prior to any offensive with bottles delivered by drones. 
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
A limited drone attack on Kyiv overnight, just 10 UAVs all shot down, the main attacks bring again against the grain storage and loading facilities in Odesa and Ixmail…
More than 10 Russian drones 'shot down' over Kyiv
More than 10 Russian drones were downed during an overnight attack on Kyiv, Ukrainian officials said.
“Groups of drones entered Kyiv simultaneously from several directions. However, all air targets - more than 10 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) - were detected and destroyed in time by the forces and means of air defense,” said Sergiy Popko, head of the Kyiv city military administration.
He said Russia had used a barrage of Iranian-made Shahed drones, with debris hitting several areas.
'Serious damage' at port on Danube river
Russia’s overnight drone strikes caused “serious” damage at the Ukrainian port of Izmail on the Danube river, an industry source told Reuters.
Russia stepped up attacks on Ukrainian agricultural and port infrastructure after Moscow refused last month to extend the Black Sea grain deal that had allowed for exports of Ukrainian grain….
An industrial source also confirmed to Reuters that Izmail was the main target of the attack, describing the level of damage as “serious”.
Ukraine’s prosecutor’s office released pictures showing a war crimes investigator outside a ruined building, and at least two damaged silos with wheat tumbling out.
Russia 'sets fire' to grain storage in Odesa
Russia set fire to some grain storage facilities in Odesa, as it launched an attack on the southern coastal region, Ukrainian officials said.
Russian drones attacked and damaged port and grain storage facilities.
Odesa governor Oleh Kiper said: “There were no reports of casualties.”
“Unfortunately, there are damages,” President Volodymyr Zelensky said.
“The most significant ones are in the south of the country. Russian terrorists have once again attacked ports, grain, global food security.”
More than 10 Russian drones 'shot down' over Kyiv
More than 10 Russian drones were downed during an overnight attack on Kyiv, Ukrainian officials said.
“Groups of drones entered Kyiv simultaneously from several directions. However, all air targets - more than 10 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) - were detected and destroyed in time by the forces and means of air defense,” said Sergiy Popko, head of the Kyiv city military administration.
He said Russia had used a barrage of Iranian-made Shahed drones, with debris hitting several areas.
'Serious damage' at port on Danube river
Russia’s overnight drone strikes caused “serious” damage at the Ukrainian port of Izmail on the Danube river, an industry source told Reuters.
Russia stepped up attacks on Ukrainian agricultural and port infrastructure after Moscow refused last month to extend the Black Sea grain deal that had allowed for exports of Ukrainian grain….
An industrial source also confirmed to Reuters that Izmail was the main target of the attack, describing the level of damage as “serious”.
Ukraine’s prosecutor’s office released pictures showing a war crimes investigator outside a ruined building, and at least two damaged silos with wheat tumbling out.
Russia 'sets fire' to grain storage in Odesa
Russia set fire to some grain storage facilities in Odesa, as it launched an attack on the southern coastal region, Ukrainian officials said.
Russian drones attacked and damaged port and grain storage facilities.
Odesa governor Oleh Kiper said: “There were no reports of casualties.”
“Unfortunately, there are damages,” President Volodymyr Zelensky said.
“The most significant ones are in the south of the country. Russian terrorists have once again attacked ports, grain, global food security.”
Last edited by ORAC; 2nd Aug 2023 at 08:11.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Video report embedded in tweet.
⚡️🇫🇷France 24 TV channel filmed a report on the "people's" 🇺🇦Ukrainian cruise missile "Trembita", the development of which is carried out by volunteers from the PARS design bureau and financed by ordinary citizens.
"Trembita" will be released in two versions: a regular missile and a decoy missile for air defense. "As a shock missile, it will carry a warhead, expensive electronics will be used, which allows for accurate targeting and hitting," said one of the PARS engineers. The "Trembita" warhead can have a thermobaric charge and a combined high-explosive fragmentation charge weighing 20 kg.
According to the creators, in the "bait" version, the missile will be very cheap, which will make its loss extremely unprofitable for the Russian Federation, depleting the enemy's air defense. "Trembity" will be launched from a pneumatic catapult or with the help of a solid-fuel accelerator.
⚡️🇫🇷France 24 TV channel filmed a report on the "people's" 🇺🇦Ukrainian cruise missile "Trembita", the development of which is carried out by volunteers from the PARS design bureau and financed by ordinary citizens.
"Trembita" will be released in two versions: a regular missile and a decoy missile for air defense. "As a shock missile, it will carry a warhead, expensive electronics will be used, which allows for accurate targeting and hitting," said one of the PARS engineers. The "Trembita" warhead can have a thermobaric charge and a combined high-explosive fragmentation charge weighing 20 kg.
According to the creators, in the "bait" version, the missile will be very cheap, which will make its loss extremely unprofitable for the Russian Federation, depleting the enemy's air defense. "Trembity" will be launched from a pneumatic catapult or with the help of a solid-fuel accelerator.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...attack-crimea/
"Elon Musk forced Ukraine to drop a planned naval drone strike in the Black Sea by refusing access to the Starlink satellite network, according to a US report.
The Ukrainian military was not able to remotely pilot a drone laden with explosives into a Russian ship in occupied Crimea following the decision of the SpaceX chief executive.
Mr Musk, the 52-year-old South African-born billionaire, has previously said he does not want Starlink used to conduct long-range offensive strikes.
But General Valeriy Zaluzhnyi, the leader of Ukraine’s armed forces, was concerned enough about the refusal to raise Musk’s power with his American counterpart, General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, according to the New York Times.
Kyiv’s top general told him his forces had had their access to Starlink restricted on a number of occasions, the paper reported.
"
"Elon Musk forced Ukraine to drop a planned naval drone strike in the Black Sea by refusing access to the Starlink satellite network, according to a US report.
The Ukrainian military was not able to remotely pilot a drone laden with explosives into a Russian ship in occupied Crimea following the decision of the SpaceX chief executive.
Mr Musk, the 52-year-old South African-born billionaire, has previously said he does not want Starlink used to conduct long-range offensive strikes.
But General Valeriy Zaluzhnyi, the leader of Ukraine’s armed forces, was concerned enough about the refusal to raise Musk’s power with his American counterpart, General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, according to the New York Times.
Kyiv’s top general told him his forces had had their access to Starlink restricted on a number of occasions, the paper reported.
"
There are other systems that give adequate bandwidth, or the Ukrainians can grab a lot of lower rate iridium systems to give some mid cause updates.
Starlink's use was given for free to them. One has to respect that the donor doesn't want to be at war with Russia himself. I respect Ukraine and the desperate fight against the invasion, with a radical mindset to counter-attack where possible. But the world tries to avoid WW3 and it has to.
Starlink's use was given for free to them. One has to respect that the donor doesn't want to be at war with Russia himself. I respect Ukraine and the desperate fight against the invasion, with a radical mindset to counter-attack where possible. But the world tries to avoid WW3 and it has to.
The units sent by the US govt are not geo fenced so will work anywhere
"Ukrainian soldiers spot a Russian high-value soldier trying to cross a field around 3 km from them. Considering his high-value status, they decide it’s worth to fire a USD 15 000 anti-tank weapon “Stugna-P” at him."
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He was in training for their olympics squad..
Another airstrike on a Crimean airfield
Another airstrike on a Crimean airfield